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Oh crap… I just bought and installed a 15ft 3.5mm extension cable to run from my computer to the speakers behind me. Am I gonna die or go deaf or both?
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You may or may not notice a higher noise floor/interference, depending on the quality of shielding on the cable, the EMI interference in that area, etc. etc. for a line level signal over 3.5mm. 15 feet is not really far but in an electrically noisy environment you may hear some noise. You almost certainly won't notice it at normal listening levels.
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Apr 25, 2023 23:29
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I have speaker cable running way further than that with no problems but otoh my desktop amp gets interference from a nearby source about 20cm away even when off so in conclusion just do whatever, nothing makes any difference. Pretty sure I have a 5m hdmi cable as well actually.
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Apr 25, 2023 23:32
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:I have speaker cable running way further than that with no problems but otoh my desktop amp gets interference from a nearby source about 20cm away even when off so in conclusion just do whatever, nothing makes any difference. The reason for that is the relative difference in amplified signal going speaker wire compared to the noise/interference that the wire will pick up is quite large, whereas a line level signal has more amplification that it (and the noise/EMI) is going to receive, and the differential in signal level between it and the noise is much less so it's more noticeable. That's why stupid expensive speaker wire is an absolute joke and worthy of ridicule, but a mid range well shielded line level(ie. RCA) cable makes some sense, and why some people opt for balanced XLR connections for line level or mic/instrument sources especially in the professional audio recording world.
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Apr 25, 2023 23:47
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Mederlock posted:The reason for that is the relative difference in amplified signal going speaker wire compared to the noise/interference that the wire will pick up is quite large, whereas a line level signal has more amplification that it (and the noise/EMI) is going to receive, and the differential in signal level between it and the noise is much less so it's more noticeable. That's why stupid expensive speaker wire is an absolute joke and worthy of ridicule, but a mid range well shielded line level(ie. RCA) cable makes some sense, and why some people opt for balanced XLR connections for line level or mic/instrument sources especially in the professional audio recording world. Yeah and said good RCA or XLR are like 50 bucks max if you spring for the quad-shielded-Canare-wire-with-Amphenol-connectors primo poo poo, not eight grand. Most cable snobs love to do the "oh you don't believe in cables, well enjoy your 99 cent Walmart poo poo."  [those work fine too]
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Apr 26, 2023 00:41
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Grab some quantum rocks and place them in a star around the endpoints of the cable and I’ll widen the softness of the whimsy enough to not die? got it, thanks everybody!
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Apr 26, 2023 01:23
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repiv posted:that's more of a laws of physics limitation, pushing 48gbps down a copper cable is hard but you can't pass dsd over optical, only hdmi!!
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Apr 26, 2023 01:45
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i meant you can get optical hdmi 2.1 cables which exceed the 10 foot limit
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Apr 26, 2023 03:19
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The thing that pisses me off the most about Audiophiles is how smug they are about the stupid poo poo they got suckered into buying. Every Snake Oil claim about audio can be measured. Easily. Anyone with a brain can run the same signal through 2 different cables, capture it, then flip polarity on one and play them back together. If they null, no loving difference between the signals (they almost always null completely by the way). If they DON'T null, you can just compare the 2 waveforms and determine and quantify the differences between the 2 signals. They don't do that because they would be exposed immediately. The day there is a scientifically backed claim with evidence I'll be there. If a cable comes out and says it's scientifically proven to have less signal loss over comparable cables and also has a .5 db bump centered at 380hz, then those are things you can measure and PROVE. sound can be measured. Very loving accurately. Bunch of goddamn morons
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Apr 26, 2023 04:23
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The Amazing Randi [  ] extended his $1 million cash prize for demonstrating psychic phenomena to audio cable companies to show an actual difference and none of them even tried. One pretended like they were going to then backed out because they had problems with the test design [which was published in advance].
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Apr 26, 2023 04:36
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qirex posted:Yeah and said good RCA or XLR are like 50 bucks max if you spring for the quad-shielded-Canare-wire-with-Amphenol-connectors primo poo poo, not eight grand. Most cable snobs love to do the "oh you don't believe in cables, well enjoy your 99 cent Walmart poo poo." Yeah I just get the SKW cables off Amazon whenever I notice noise like that on an interconnect, for instance my DAC on my computer desk had an improvement. Otherwise I just use monoprice or Amazon essentials cables and usually don't have an issue.
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Apr 26, 2023 05:34
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I got into it with some fools about higher sample rates and 'oversampling' in a DJing subreddit of all places. Fun bits: - People actually produce, buy and spin electronic music at 96kHz/32-bit like it makes a difference. - Even playing a 44.1kHz/16bit file through a system that oversamples at 96kHz will improve its sound quality. - 'Thermal noise' in any audio signal means that the upper limit we impose on audio via anti-aliasing filters is robbing us of important ultra-harmonic content, and anywhere on the spectrum we can look at a Fourier transform and draw a vertical line through it to create an upper limit is in fact arbitrary and not, you know, something Nyquist figured out 50 years ago.
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Apr 26, 2023 06:32
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Yeah the consumer audio industry is so infested with marketing bullshit even when it's not audiophile magic. Just say the biggest number you can regardless of how relevant it is. Nobody's going to stop you, and people who don't even know what the number means will buy poo poo because of it. My recent favorite is "Hi-Res" playback. Someone insisted that 192khz really reproduced the audible spectrum far more accurately, and that they could definitely tell the difference between a 20khz square and sine wave. Bigger number better, dammit!! E: ^^^ lol good timing
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Apr 26, 2023 06:56
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Gramps posted:The thing that pisses me off the most about Audiophiles is how smug they are about the stupid poo poo they got suckered into buying. Every Snake Oil claim about audio can be measured. Easily. Anyone with a brain can run the same signal through 2 different cables, capture it, then flip polarity on one and play them back together. If they null, no loving difference between the signals (they almost always null completely by the way). If they DON'T null, you can just compare the 2 waveforms and determine and quantify the differences between the 2 signals. They don't do that because they would be exposed immediately. The day there is a scientifically backed claim with evidence I'll be there. If a cable comes out and says it's scientifically proven to have less signal loss over comparable cables and also has a .5 db bump centered at 380hz, then those are things you can measure and PROVE. sound can be measured. Very loving accurately. Bunch of goddamn morons No you see there are perceivable things that measurements just cannot quantify, like air and soundstage and smokiness
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Apr 26, 2023 09:03
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Ok Comboomer posted:No you see there are perceivable things that measurements just cannot quantify, like air and soundstage and smokiness
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Apr 26, 2023 09:28
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Mederlock posted:The reason for that is the relative difference in amplified signal going speaker wire compared to the noise/interference that the wire will pick up is quite large, whereas a line level signal has more amplification that it (and the noise/EMI) is going to receive, and the differential in signal level between it and the noise is much less so it's more noticeable. That's why stupid expensive speaker wire is an absolute joke and worthy of ridicule, but a mid range well shielded line level(ie. RCA) cable makes some sense, and why some people opt for balanced XLR connections for line level or mic/instrument sources especially in the professional audio recording world. Huh I never actually thought about the difference in amplitude now I feel foolish. Well I guess I'll need to get me some quad shielded 3.5mm cables and crystals. Do I need to charge the crystals first? Who can help with that?
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Gramps posted:The thing that pisses me off the most about Audiophiles is how smug they are about the stupid poo poo they got suckered into buying. Every Snake Oil claim about audio can be measured. Easily. Anyone with a brain can run the same signal through 2 different cables, capture it, then flip polarity on one and play them back together. If they null, no loving difference between the signals (they almost always null completely by the way). If they DON'T null, you can just compare the 2 waveforms and determine and quantify the differences between the 2 signals. They don't do that because they would be exposed immediately. The day there is a scientifically backed claim with evidence I'll be there. If a cable comes out and says it's scientifically proven to have less signal loss over comparable cables and also has a .5 db bump centered at 380hz, then those are things you can measure and PROVE. sound can be measured. Very loving accurately. Bunch of goddamn morons  this is a dynaudio heritage special retailing for $7000 a pair and the cables inside? probably $1/meter chinese special
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Apr 28, 2023 13:12
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Is charging pre-owned JO crystals gay? Asking for a friend.
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Apr 28, 2023 18:08
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bigman.50grand posted:Is charging pre-owned JO crystals gay? Asking for a friend. It is unless you put it in my no-gay crystal pouch when charging. $500.
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Apr 28, 2023 18:11
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bigman.50grand posted:Is charging pre-owned JO crystals gay? Asking for a friend. It depends what music you use. Steely Dan? You're good. Fleetwood Mac on the other hand...
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Apr 28, 2023 18:44
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I think the thread would enjoy this video on an early 2000s "audio quality controller" that's an internal tube DAC for PCs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0SQMVGQNLM
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Apr 29, 2023 14:04
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according to this old aussie audio engineer, the best tube amps before the advent of the transistor were designed similarily to a modern SS amp except with an output transformer (which is by far the worst performing component of the tube amp)
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Palladium posted:according to this old aussie audio engineer, the best tube amps before the advent of the transistor were designed similarily to a modern SS amp except with an output transformer (which is by far the worst performing component of the tube amp) with info from 1963 sources.... If the HTML static site didn't clue you in he is a super boomer that cannot heard half what he thinks... that bit at the bottom lol
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Apr 30, 2023 14:59
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Humphreys posted:with info from 1963 sources.... If the HTML static site didn't clue you in he is a super boomer that cannot heard half what he thinks... that bit at the bottom lol i know that's a lotta wall of text, but if you actually read his articles he clearly states the tubes are easily worse than transistors when both in well-designed amps he also debunks the cable snake oil too
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I was browsing the AC4L new arrivals like one does and it's hilarious to me that B&W has the nerve to charge $4500 for a sealed dual 10" sub [only $3300 now, what a bargain!]
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May 5, 2023 21:00
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qirex posted:I was browsing the AC4L new arrivals like one does and it's hilarious to me that B&W has the nerve to charge $4500 for a sealed dual 10" sub [only $3300 now, what a bargain!] on the opposite side of that equation, you can get a refurb A-S701 for $499 (black) or $549 (silver), or an A-S801 for $100 more, respectively, all of which are stupid good deals for the money ($449 A-S501 less so when racked against its beefier sibling, but A-S301 for $299 might be a great deal for somebody who “only” needs 60wpc)
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May 5, 2023 21:59
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I hope they refresh that whole line in the same way as the R-N2000A, that thing looks properly 
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My work life has been such over the past 3-4 years that I was either at home or barely at my desk (in the lab, in a meeting or on the road). Recently, I've had more time to sit at my desk and I found myself thinking "wow, it'd be nice to have a stationary audio setup here!" Then I realize how easy it is to just take my AirPods in and out and slapped myself for thinking about buying audio gear. (For the record, I was thinking of a DX7Pro or something like that).
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May 5, 2023 23:53
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movax posted:My work life has been such over the past 3-4 years that I was either at home or barely at my desk (in the lab, in a meeting or on the road). Recently, I've had more time to sit at my desk and I found myself thinking "wow, it'd be nice to have a stationary audio setup here!" Personally I prefer the sound of music coming from speakers. I don't like the closed-in sensation of headphones and earphones and like the feeling of stereo placement in a mix
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May 6, 2023 00:52
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Yeah sometimes with headphones you get a soundstage that's a bit too peaty.
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I tend to get ear infections easy so I tend toward speakers at home as well. It's a nice thing to have around but not everybody wants that
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Mederlock posted:Personally I prefer the sound of music coming from speakers. I don't like the closed-in sensation of headphones and earphones and like the feeling of stereo placement in a mix It's interesting how the listening context affects the experience. I've had coworkers hear the rave poo poo I love coming out of the small Bluetooth speaker in the kitchen, and comment that they hate it, and then brought them to a rave with a proper Jamaican soundsystem and literally have them coming up to me an hour in going "OK, I get it now." I love my studio monitors at home, but interestingly I think the steady decline of my inclination to produce and write music coincided with when I started using them instead of headphones. I'm super insecure especially about my art and having friends and roommates (and neighbours) able to hear everything I'm doing is discouraging. Maybe I should start writing in the cans again.
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Wayne Knight posted:Yeah sometimes with headphones you get a soundstage that's a bit too peaty. Open back or closed back for the peat?
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Hi, I don't know what peat means in the context of audio, can someone explain?
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an AOL chatroom posted:Hi, I don't know what peat means in the context of audio, can someone explain? oaky but grassier
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an AOL chatroom posted:Hi, I don't know what peat means in the context of audio, can someone explain? If a repeat is the second time you've heard something, then a peat must be the first time.
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May 8, 2023 17:41
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Anyone tried out the most recent run of Type 1 cassettes from National Audio Company? All the recent reviews I've found say that they're less than stellar.
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Palladium posted:There's a youtuber called cheapaudioman who claims the SMSL D-6 DAC sucks because its sibilant just by his ears, despite it being completely contrary to every objective test done in the ASR review. I just found cheapaudioman about a week ago and I like his work. He's open about all of his reviews being subjective, and he lives up to his name by having several videos about how not to break the bank on this stuff. holy poo poo this is dumb olives black fucked around with this message at 12:03 on May 14, 2023 |
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an AOL chatroom posted:Hi, I don't know what peat means in the context of audio, can someone explain? well most audio is set to peat by default. often time you can re-peat it with settings on the device. Either one you choose it's up to your own audio preference. you can however get strong peat/re-peat devices handcrafted in Scottish bogs to adjust the audio to your liking.
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Crossposting this from my cassette tape thread because I just preordered one and I'm excitedolives black posted:Think I might put some more effort into the OP soon. There's some cool stuff coming down the pipe! A year ago this Anadialog guy said that there were new tape decks in the works but the specs on the only new ones I've seen got pooped on by some other reviewers which makes me sad
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