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Defiance Industries posted:...until the iATM came along, which was comically broken. Clans and broken, overpowered equipment? Who could have seen this coming? Yeah, I'm kind of glad I transitioned in to MegaMek when it was only 3025 era rules/tech. Broke me out of my adolescent min/max clan tech phase.
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Razor and myself have pretty obvious moves. I'll head to 1814 and hit the CDA while Razor can get to 1811 via 1709 for 5 Hexes. If we're very lucky we could possibly get both of them, but I can't get a good spot to help with the COM and Razor can't help with the CDA without jumping. There's a risk Razor gets focused and everything somehow hits. I think the PPC would need 10 and the LL just 8. Mirage and Prime, what do you want to do? I'd say leave the infantry and try to move as far as possible to us. Amechwarrior fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Apr 26, 2023 |
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Apr 26, 2023 23:47
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Prime here, haven’t really had a chance to look at the board in detail yet. Hopefully by tomorrow
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Hm. Could run due south to 0810, which sets me up well to harass next turn but does make me a bit exposed (on the third hand, it is correctly an r7 move) 1208 is also in the mix and i could split fire with MLs at the COM and MGs at the INF, but putting a LCT into "the mix" is not usually a great idea (again r7 though)
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Apr 27, 2023 00:45
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Captain Foo posted:Min range is one of the reasons clan lrms are so loving good There's a rule that you can have "hot" ammo in LRM launchers that eliminates the penalties. If you don't mind an ammo detonation if the launcher gets destroyed, that is. I understand this was largely a Draconic Combine move.
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Increasing combat effectiveness while decreasing veteran disability budget, pretty clever really
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Amechwarrior posted:Razor and myself have pretty obvious moves. I'll head to 1814 and hit the CDA while Razor can get to 1811 via 1709 for 5 Hexes. If we're very lucky we could possibly get both of them, but I can't get a good spot to help with the COM and Razor can't help with the CDA without jumping. There's a risk Razor gets focused and everything somehow hits. I think the PPC would need 10 and the LL just 8. Question, since I'm spending 9 MP to get to 1811, does that mean that I'm automatically running, or can I choose to walk there, since 5 hex is within my walk allowance?
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Space Kablooey posted:Question, since I'm spending 9 MP to get to 1811, does that mean that I'm automatically running, or can I choose to walk there, since 5 hex is within my walk allowance? The move points spent determine if you're walking or running. So, spend 9, you're running even if you only move, say, three elevation changes into heavy woods.
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ah makes sense. I got confused by a passage from the Quick start rules.
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Also how much is the punching penalty for not having hands? +1? E: anyway, locked in movement to 1811 and shooting at the COM Space Kablooey fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Apr 27, 2023 |
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i like the way hbs battletech portrays short-range LRM attempts - the mech will launch them nearly straight up so they have time to arm and then they arc down to the target, to either get some cool hits or just explode harmlessly nearby. a clever way to combine the lore of LRMs needing time to arm with the game mechanic of technically being able to hit at short range if you roll really well and have lots of things in your favour
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Space Kablooey posted:Also how much is the punching penalty for not having hands? +1? Mechs without hand actuators suffer a +1 penalty when punching. Mechs without lower arm actuators suffer a +2 penalty and their punches only deal half damage.
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biosterous posted:i like the way hbs battletech portrays short-range LRM attempts - the mech will launch them nearly straight up so they have time to arm and then they arc down to the target, to either get some cool hits or just explode harmlessly nearby. a clever way to combine the lore of LRMs needing time to arm with the game mechanic of technically being able to hit at short range if you roll really well and have lots of things in your favour I like this too
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Submitted for 1814 facing NE to Alpha Strike the CDA.
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submitted to 0810
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Thinking I'll jump to 0910 them cool off for a turn. Get back to 0 heat for the next one. Can someone confirm if the foot platoon can see me there? I might to 0911 if they can. Take a +3 tmm Edit: clantech sucks because clantech is so good. I like 3025 rules where everything has big drawbacks ilmucche fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Apr 27, 2023 |
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ilmucche posted:Thinking I'll jump to 0910 them cool off for a turn. Get back to 0 heat for the next one. Can someone confirm if the foot platoon can see me there? I might to 0911 if they can. Take a +3 tmm They'll have half cover plus long range for like 11 if you Jump. But you could just run 11 MP to 0911 and be totally blocked and better setup for next turn. If you Jump to 0911, you could face SE and be 1MP "ahead" of the running move as you're likely to move east next. That and the added +1 for jumping means it's probably the best bet to cool down and be safe. You'll probably need to help finish off the COM/CDA. It's crazy how different it is with this team based initiative. The OPFOR has to always move defensively or else all of us can get behind units every turn. Where on TT only your last moved unit or two will get that level of advantage due to alternating moves. Amechwarrior fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Apr 28, 2023 |
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By the way, is the CDA supposed to have hands in its sheet? Iirc from the games it only had little stubby wings.
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Space Kablooey posted:By the way, is the CDA supposed to have hands in its sheet? Iirc from the games it only had little stubby wings. Whoops! Yep, that's an error. I'll fix that for the next update. Can you imagine a Cicada with hands? What a creepy thought.
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Apr 28, 2023 05:04
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??? They clap them together really fast that's how they make that noise
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They clap them so fast most people don't even think they have arms at all!
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Looool
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Scintilla posted:Whoops! Yep, that's an error. I'll fix that for the next update. Can you imagine a Cicada with hands? What a creepy thought.  i'm not sorry
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biosterous posted:
i was just about to do something similar 
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I imagine it having Slenderman-style long arms and fingers. When it reaches melee range, it doesn't punch its enemies. It just reaches out and... strokes them. Very gently.
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Melee is weird because it's not a very good option most of the time I imagine? Since you're at risk of stumbling and falling, and it doesn't deal all that much damage compared to the guns you have (On a well-armed mech at least) But at the same time sometimes you just have to squeeze that extra damage out, or your guns are gone so it's what you have left. Or your mech is actually built for melee combat and has an excellent punch at melee range. I've played the 2018 Battletech game, I remember the Hatchetman in all its weird melee glory That game is also funny because all mechs can melee regardless of damage taken, which produces fun images of a mech with no arms and a broken leg briefly standing on their broken leg to kick with their good one. Or a Locust bodyslamming an enemy much larger than them
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missing a punch carries no risk of falling!Amechwarrior posted:They'll have half cover plus long range for like 11 if you Jump. But you could just run 11 MP to 0911 and be totally blocked and better setup for next turn. If you Jump to 0911, you could face SE and be 1MP "ahead" of the running move as you're likely to move east next. That and the added +1 for jumping means it's probably the best bet to cool down and be safe. You'll probably need to help finish off the COM/CDA. it's definitely going to be a jump no matter where I end up, not going to shoot so i can sink back to 0 heat
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Scintilla posted:I imagine it having Slenderman-style long arms and fingers. 
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Scintilla posted:I imagine it having Slenderman-style long arms and fingers. This is illegal
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glwgameplayer posted:Melee is weird because it's not a very good option most of the time I imagine? Since you're at risk of stumbling and falling, and it doesn't deal all that much damage compared to the guns you have (On a well-armed mech at least) Melee damage is derived from the weight of the Battlemech, which is why it is so anemic at this tonnage. Meanwhile, after a certain point weapons don't get any stronger, you just mount more of them. Kicking forces a PSR if you miss, but inflicts a PSR if you hit, which is potentially quite useful, and gets very powerful as tonnage goes up. Unlike the HBS computer game, you don't have to pick between melee and weapon combat. As long as you haven't used arm-mounted (for punches) or leg mounted (for kicks) weapons, you can use the melee attack if you're adjacent to somebody.
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Gnoman posted:Melee damage is derived from the weight of the Battlemech, which is why it is so anemic at this tonnage. Meanwhile, after a certain point weapons don't get any stronger, you just mount more of them. Kicking forces a PSR if you miss, but inflicts a PSR if you hit, which is potentially quite useful, and gets very powerful as tonnage goes up. Also unlike mods for the game which do enable melee+shooting, turn order on the tabletop is fire phase before melee phase (modded hbs gets you melee and then fire)
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Melee combat gets a bit more varied later in the timeline, where you get mech-scale swords, hatchets, vibroweapons, etc. Right now it's mostly just punches and kicks.
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Scintilla posted:Melee combat gets a bit more varied later in the timeline, where you get mech-scale swords, hatchets, vibroweapons, etc. Right now it's mostly just punches and kicks. And if you're feeling spicy, an unrooted tree or the arm of some poor fucker you blew clean off
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I wanted to put one of those 3d printed arms from "birds with arms" memes on the CDA but what's posted is already better than what I'd be able to do. Melee is great when you're bigger. A 50t 'Mech does 5 DMG on a punch and 10 for kicking, that's a free ML and PPC if they land. Also doesn't cost any heat, and punches only hit the upper body (1-in-6 odds of landing the head) if both units are on the same level. A 100t 'Mech can kick as hard as an AC/20 and punch for 10. Head armor only goes up to 9, so an Atlas throwing hands has two 1-in-6 chances for getting to roll for a critical hit on your Head.
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By the way since we've been talking about Battletech so much I have had a renewed interest in the franchise and I downloaded BattleTech Advanced 3062 for the 2018 computer game. This is entirely your fault and I blame all of you for it. On the bright side, it should all be good fun.
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glwgameplayer posted:By the way since we've been talking about Battletech so much I have had a renewed interest in the franchise and I downloaded BattleTech Advanced 3062 for the 2018 computer game. This is entirely your fault and I blame all of you for it. On the bright side, it should all be good fun. Have fun, they've added a lot of stuff! Amechwarrior posted:Melee is great when you're bigger. A 50t 'Mech does 5 DMG on a punch and 10 for kicking, that's a free ML and PPC if they land. Also doesn't cost any heat, and punches only hit the upper body (1-in-6 odds of landing the head) if both units are on the same level. A 100t 'Mech can kick as hard as an AC/20 and punch for 10. Head armor only goes up to 9, so an Atlas throwing hands has two 1-in-6 chances for getting to roll for a critical hit on your Head. It's a good thing we got that Shadow Hawk then, it's got the quirk "Battlefists" so it gets a bonus to hit with punches!
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glwgameplayer posted:By the way since we've been talking about Battletech so much I have had a renewed interest in the franchise and I downloaded BattleTech Advanced 3062 for the 2018 computer game. This is entirely your fault and I blame all of you for it. On the bright side, it should all be good fun. I’m also doing this, it’s fun. There are definitely some things to get used to but it’s totally worth it
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Captain Foo posted:I’m also doing this, it’s fun. There are definitely some things to get used to but it’s totally worth it Also here’s the hbs battletech thread https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3821533
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Scintilla posted:I imagine it having Slenderman-style long arms and fingers. if you don't have adorable sub-arms, are you even trying? (not hotlinking, its a non-bt mech render)
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