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It looks like all the available options are insanely expensive, ha. i didn’t really expect them to float around this much. I thought I found a diamond in the rough with the Odin Lite, but I never started with the basic question if it ran Windows. It looks like my options if I want a handheld that isn’t as massive as the SteamDeck, while still being priced on the cheaper side are the WIN600 or running Project Valhalla on an Odin Base or Pro. Part of me is leaning towards the WIN600 since it has Windows out of the gate but then again, it’s almost $100 more expensive. Decisions to be made.
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Yeah, if only it could've stayed in that price range -- it'd be perfect. I think I'll go for the base Odin and just run Project Valhalla. The WIN600 is immediately available and comes with Windows OOB but it's also like, insanely chunky looking. And judging from reviews, its fans are loud too. The Odin would at least give me a sleeker design and a project to get myself into.
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From what I read on sbcgaming, WIN600 is a pretty good emulation machine. It's spec isn't much but it works. I just hate they have the anbernic logo on the front. All the other Anbernic premium models don't have the logo.
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LODGE NORTH posted:I think I'll go for the base Odin and just run Project Valhalla. What, exactly, is it that you think you want to run Windows for? Because whatever it is you're trying to do, it is extremely unlikely Project Valhalla is going to be able to do it. You "can" run Windows on a rg351 if you want; up to Windows 98se, using Dosbox Pure. I assume this is not what you have in mind, but I don't know. x86 portables are expensive and clunky because the x86 architecture is old and was never designed for portability. Many things have been rewritten for ARM devices though, but of course not everything. If you're trying to just access Steam and play whatever, zzMisc fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Apr 21, 2023 |
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zzMisc posted:What, exactly, is it that you think you want to run Windows for? Because whatever it is you're trying to do, it is extremely unlikely Project Valhalla is going to be able to do it. Right now, only Pokemon fangames and obscure Japanese visual novels that some guy might've translated in 1998. I'm realllly not trying to do anything power hungry, I just want to have a portable way to do Windows exclusive things from decades ago.
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GPD win 2 or older machines.
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LODGE NORTH posted:Right now, only Pokemon fangames and obscure Japanese visual novels that some guy might've translated in 1998. I'm realllly not trying to do anything power hungry, I just want to have a portable way to do Windows exclusive things from decades ago. Well then, you can absolutely run Win98 within Dosbox on any of the linux-based devices, though I'd recommend at least a rg503/353 or better. Just search "Installing Win98 in Dosbox Pure", there are lots of tutorials out there. It's easier if you set it up first on your regular PC, then transfer the .img file with the installed OS to the bios folder on your device. For Japanese VNs, you might need to do some region/language fuckery in Win98 to get them to run, but if your interest runs that way already presumably you're already familiar with that. Admittedly it may be a little more tinkering than a device running native Windows, but it works. And stuff that old is definitely not going to run directly under an arm version of windows anyhow. And for the record this isn't a "should work" - I've done it myself, so far all I've run is an old Monty Python Meaning of Life game in Win95b, but it totally works. There's something weirdly satisfying about watching the old Pipes screensaver on an emu portable. Edit: Just to update this here after looking into it further - apparently Project Valhalla on the Odin does install some sort of x86 emulation layer? That's absolutely crazy to me and I didn't expect that to be plausible. Compatibility is spotty but still way better than I would've expected. zzMisc fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Apr 21, 2023 |
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I really should sell my GPD win max now that I have the win max 2. eBay is such a pain in my rear end though.
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Man, gently caress this game, even today.
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zzMisc posted:
 Well, there's my interest gone edit: MarcusSA posted:I really should sell my GPD win max now that I have the win max 2.  👀How much you want for it?
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I think we have our new "just get this thing" default recommendation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImqGsC0NZ6M https://a.aliexpress.com/_mMEfvMU
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Shame it doesn't have the good Super Nintendo colours as an option.
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Purple SNES is classy, the shape of the US console being lame I'll give you but the color scheme is aces
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flavor.flv posted:I think we have our new "just get this thing" default recommendation Mine arrived last week. For $20 or whatever I paid it's pretty good. Mostly I think it shines for GBA although with the aspect ratio things are a bit blurry. NES is the sharpest by far. SNES performance is very hit and miss. Save states are functional enough but it desperately needs button remapping support. I have no idea why it has an analog stick, maybe the MAME stuff.
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A bunch of preview video for the Asus Ally from PC channels come out today. Personally I dislike this trend of getting bigger and bigger.
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stephenthinkpad posted:A bunch of preview video for the Asus Ally from PC channels come out today. Personally I dislike this trend of getting bigger and bigger. This isn't going to be much below $1000, if at all, is it?
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Rinkles posted:This isn't going to be much below $1000, if at all, is it? Heavy rumors are it’s going to be in the $650 range to compete with the high end deck sku. stephenthinkpad posted:A bunch of preview video for the Asus Ally from PC channels come out today. Personally I dislike this trend of getting bigger and bigger. It’s actually a bit smaller and lighter than the deck
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MarcusSA posted:Heavy rumors are it’s going to be in the $650 range to compete with the high end deck sku. Yeah the rumours were that Microsoft are subsidising it somewhat to get it to a Deck equivalent price point. I don't believe it's going to be lighter though just because I think the 6800U handhelds are either heavier or equal weight to the Deck, and the Ally is going to require some beefy cooling and probably a huge battery.
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One of today's video did say its lighter than the Deck. To me they are all too large to carry outside.
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https://www.theverge.com/2023/4/25/23696722/amd-ryzen-z1-z1-extreme-rog-ally ASUS appears to not have paid for exclusivity rights to their custom power-tuned silicon this time around. Rejoice, for this might mean we get a whole slate of devices with these in them. edit: By which I mean that the power tuning is custom, not the silicon itself. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Apr 25, 2023 |
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So the GPD Win 4 is shipping with different screens to the review units they sent out. https://twitter.com/RetroGameCorps/status/1650936888755392512 E: SwissArmyDruid posted:https://www.theverge.com/2023/4/25/23696722/amd-ryzen-z1-z1-extreme-rog-ally Questionable whether it even was a custom job or just a chip AMD hadn't announced yet. It looks like the same problem every other non-Deck handheld has though, it's relying a lot on just throwing power at the problem njsykora fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Apr 25, 2023 |
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njsykora posted:So the GPD Win 4 is shipping with different screens to the review units they sent out. To piggy back on this it was revealed today that the asus is going to have a VRR screen and it’s going to (most likely) have a landscape native screen. Portrait screens break quite a few DX8 games.
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njsykora posted:Questionable whether it even was a custom job or just a chip AMD hadn't announced yet. It looks like the same problem every other non-Deck handheld has though, it's relying a lot on just throwing power at the problem Sorry. In my statement, the power tuning bit is what's custom, not the silicon.
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njsykora posted:Yeah the rumours were that Microsoft are subsidising it somewhat to get it to a Deck equivalent price point. I don't believe it's going to be lighter though just because I think the 6800U handhelds are either heavier or equal weight to the Deck, and the Ally is going to require some beefy cooling and probably a huge battery. The specs listed here have it being 60g lighter, Ally - 608 g Deck - 669 g https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-rog-ally-console-prototypes-have-been-pictured-featuring-a-closer-look-at-amd-ryzen-z1-extreme-chip Also slightly smaller Ally - 28.0 x 11.3 x 3.9 mm Deck - 29.8 x 11.7 x 4.9 cm Speculation is that the battery will be slightly smaller to account for the lower weight.
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njsykora posted:because they don't have the Deck's trackpads hosed up priorities
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Rinkles posted:hosed up priorities Triple true because the thing runs windows. My Aya Neo uses the controller as a simulated mouse and it works ok but an actual track pad works a lot better. Touching the screen sucks. Also the windows 11 on screen keyboard is lovely smelly balls.
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The rumour was they're subsidising it behind the scenes to help Asus hit a price point equal to the Steam Deck, mostly because they want to maintain Windows' position as the default gaming OS even on handhelds. It's not something they're going to promote hard, but the Ally's marketing is putting the fact that it runs Windows front and center and if Microsoft are involved they'll probably have a few ads for Game Pass when it launches that quietly show the Ally being used to try and shake the Deck's position as default handheld PC. It kinda reminds me of old washing machine ads where manufacturers would have deals with detergent makers so they'd show each other in their ads without otherwise remarking on the partnership.
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MarcusSA posted:
Oh wow, that's a lot more than slightly smaller. What are they competing with, the game gear micro?
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I've been looking at buying a used phone with a good snapdragon processer in it for running emulators. I noticed the cheapest options are phones that are still carrier locked. Does that matter at all for game emulation if a person doesn't plan on using it for a phone?
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Potentially yes, I remember Russ doing a video on that with a used LG phone he got and while its not something that'll stop you doing stuff it is a giant pain in the rear end since you'll likely still need at least a prepaid sim card and account to get through initial setup.
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Probably better to just get a tablet or dedicated handheld for that purpose than a phone honestly, depending on how much power you need and/or how much you want to spend
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I ordered an RP3+ and it's hopefully getting delivered next week. Apparently there was a recent OTA update that boosts performance quite a bit so if you have one, make sure you update it.
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I’ve seen some Flip reviews and it seems kinda mid, anyone here pick one up? I was interested in the purple one but I’m on the fence
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HiredGun posted:I ordered an RP3+ and it's hopefully getting delivered next week. Apparently there was a recent OTA update that boosts performance quite a bit so if you have one, make sure you update it. How much does it boost it by? It was already fairly powerful.
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njsykora posted:The rumour was they're subsidising it behind the scenes to help Asus hit a price point equal to the Steam Deck, mostly because they want to maintain Windows' position as the default gaming OS even on handhelds. It's not something they're going to promote hard, but the Ally's marketing is putting the fact that it runs Windows front and center and if Microsoft are involved they'll probably have a few ads for Game Pass when it launches that quietly show the Ally being used to try and shake the Deck's position as default handheld PC. It kinda reminds me of old washing machine ads where manufacturers would have deals with detergent makers so they'd show each other in their ads without otherwise remarking on the partnership. My biggest gripe with my steam deck is how I can't play all these free Game Pass games on it, so this is a smart direction for them to take.
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