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Angryhead posted:I really enjoy his stuff and very much like his calm delivery.  Hope it's not actually bye forever.
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Apr 30, 2023 17:20
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archie sonic rarely adapted the game stories when penders was writing it it did sonic adventure 1 and 2 and spinball but i cant think of any other games he adapted because lol penders wasnt going to play them he didnt even own any sega consoles
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Apr 30, 2023 17:30
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penders doesn't actually like sonic or know much about it despite writing a comic based on it for 15 years he's a fan of his own creations
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Apr 30, 2023 17:32
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:penders doesn't actually like sonic or know much about it despite writing a comic based on it for 15 years he's a fan of his own creations Like Oops All Echidnas or Sexual Predator James Bond Skunk!
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Apr 30, 2023 17:40
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he owns the very concept of echidnas
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Apr 30, 2023 17:43
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:he owns the very concept of echidnas Not spelled like that he doesn't
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Apr 30, 2023 17:45
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Penders should be given ownsership of like Gex or Pacman just to see what happens. I want Gex to have a storyline about his wife leaving him because he's infertile and Penders will do it.
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Apr 30, 2023 17:47
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Give him Peacemaker, I want to see what he does with a character who's back story is literally "my dad was a huge piece of poo poo"
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Apr 30, 2023 17:49
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pac-man plays second fiddle to pac-man jr
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Apr 30, 2023 17:50
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a convoluted series of lawsuits ends with penders owning ms. pacman and kinky the ghost
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Apr 30, 2023 17:51
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Penders ends up getting the rights to the Ghostbusters. The one with the gorilla
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Apr 30, 2023 17:54
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:penders doesn't actually like sonic or know much about it despite writing a comic based on it for 15 years he's a fan of his own creations I can almost buy that Penders came to hate Sonic the more and more OCs he stuffed into the story world. Most of Penders' tenure as Sonic's lead writer was straight up putting Sonic the character through all sorts of unending emotional and physical abuse too. To the point where when Sega started exercising mandate control over the IDW version of the comics, Ian Flynn posted the list of directives he received from Sega for what they considered no go zones, and it was basically a set of anti-Penders mandates. Like no one could die or appear to die, Sonic was not allowed to get melodramatic over anything, Sonic wasn't allowed to experience any form of significant loss in his life, and none of the characters were allowed to have parents or other family members. You can't BUT read stuff like that as "we don't want another Ken Penders emerging from your writers room, Mr. Flynn."
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Apr 30, 2023 18:13
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nine-gear crow posted:Like no one could die or appear to die, Sonic was not allowed to get melodramatic over anything, Sonic wasn't allowed to experience any form of significant loss in his life, and none of the characters were allowed to have parents or other family members. You can't BUT read stuff like that as "we don't want another Ken Penders emerging from your writers room, Mr. Flynn." I know the Sonic Brand Integrity rules are a real thing but... did they not look at the live action movies at all?
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Apr 30, 2023 18:47
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the movies adhere to the mandates for the most part there are a few exceptions but it doesnt do anything radical to sonic like penders did. sonic is a brand and mascot for a company first and a character second sega doesnt want him to grow and change just like nintendo doesnt want mario to change or disney wants mickey mouse to change
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Apr 30, 2023 18:52
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Skippy McPants posted:I almost unsubbed from him this month because his TNT shorts clogged up my subscription tab. Same
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Apr 30, 2023 18:58
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d9pmJTI94U
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Apr 30, 2023 19:37
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ken penders can do anything he wants for some reason and i think thats pretty funny
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Apr 30, 2023 20:21
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Same 
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Apr 30, 2023 20:57
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:the movies adhere to the mandates for the most part there are a few exceptions but it doesnt do anything radical to sonic like penders did. sonic is a brand and mascot for a company first and a character second sega doesnt want him to grow and change just like nintendo doesnt want mario to change or disney wants mickey mouse to change I only ask because the movies start with Sonic getting orphaned by his adoptive owl mom dying which seems to break like 3 of those rules, but I guess I still agree that it's not nearly as tonally inappropriate as any of the Archie comics where he gets cucked or whatever the gently caress
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Apr 30, 2023 22:12
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mycot posted:I only ask because the movies start with Sonic getting orphaned by his adoptive owl mom dying which seems to break like 3 of those rules, but I guess I still agree that it's not nearly as tonally inappropriate as any of the Archie comics where he gets cucked or whatever the gently caress Tyson Hesse waved his magic staff and all the powerful people at Sega were forced to kneel before him and accept those changes
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Apr 30, 2023 22:21
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:archie sonic rarely adapted the game stories when penders was writing it it did sonic adventure 1 and 2 and spinball but i cant think of any other games he adapted because lol penders wasnt going to play them he didnt even own any sega consoles The best story about those adaptations is still how sega just left the archie staff to get hosed with Sonic Adventure. They told them to adapt the game before it'd even come out in the west, didn't give them a copy of the game or even the script. So one of the staff members, I think it was the artist for those issues, went out and imported his own copy to play in the office so they'd at least be able to get a vague gist of what the game was even about. And then they hastily had to edit the issue after the game released to make some of the dialogue make more sense with what the game actually said.
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Apr 30, 2023 23:46
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I liked sonic when there wasn’t a story. Also I bought the Archie sonics as a kid because I was a child.
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May 1, 2023 00:00
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Stephanie Dog is the best new character of 1997. Also hilarious how everyone is convinced that the dog is reincarnated/possessed by Stephanie's ghost and then is never seen again.
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May 1, 2023 00:10
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Overbite posted:I liked sonic when there wasn’t a story. Sonic not being a fiasco would be boring and not a world I want to live in. Get weirder with it. Let Ken have it.
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May 1, 2023 00:30
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I like fiasco Sonic but maybe not so much the "this children's comic sure does make a lot of weird sex jokes and implications about the underage characters" sort of weirdness that Ken " my OC TOTALLY took that teenager's virginity before Sonic the Hedgehog could" Penders and the other old Archie writers were prone to.
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May 1, 2023 00:39
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Ariong posted:I like fiasco Sonic but maybe not so much the "this children's comic sure does make a lot of weird sex jokes and implications about the underage characters" sort of weirdness that Ken " Based on the weird showrunners of cable kids TV there probably needs to be some more vetting of who gets to make kids entertainment.
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May 1, 2023 00:48
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Ariong posted:I like fiasco Sonic but maybe not so much the "this children's comic sure does make a lot of weird sex jokes and implications about the underage characters" sort of weirdness that Ken " Also deciding to be deep and making his Nazi analogues who also became good guys(??) but not before re-writing "First they came..." for his funny animal comic.
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May 1, 2023 00:48
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mycot posted:I only ask because the movies start with Sonic getting orphaned by his adoptive owl mom dying which seems to break like 3 of those rules, but I guess I still agree that it's not nearly as tonally inappropriate as any of the Archie comics where he gets cucked or whatever the gently caress they can get away with adoptive parents but not biological parents the owl is not sonics real mom and so she can exist and die
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May 1, 2023 00:51
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what if.... sonic was a cuck *ken penders begins to float in the air having finally achieved nirvana*
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May 1, 2023 00:51
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Well there is Nickelodeon full of pedophiles or inserting their porn fetishes in kids shows. Because apparently Nickelodeon.
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May 1, 2023 01:17
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Dawgstar posted:Like Oops All Echidnas or Sexual Predator James Bond Skunk! Don't forget how, after the original Dr. Robotnik was killed off in the comic, Penders kept pushing to replace him with the villain from an independent comic project he failed to get off the ground as the comic's main villain. Speaking of killing off Dr. Robotnik, there was also the fact that they thought the story arc where that happened was going to be the comic's last, which at least explains them killing off the main villain. What it doesn't explain is how Penders also wanted to just kill off deuteragonist Sally Acorn - In the final she ends up "dying" for a few issues after a character disguised as Sonic is tricked into cutting a rope she's climbing and she falls to her death, but Penders wanted her to have just died and the comic ended, possibly because the miniseries he wrote starring her didn't sell well so he assumed readers just didn't like the character? In non-Penders weirdness from the comic, you also have the revelation that the entire series takes place thousands of years in the future on a post-apocalyptic Earth after it was genocided by evil aliens, and that one issue with a convoluted time-travel plot they did to explain why Sonic's character design changed for the release of Sonic Adventure. Y'know, that thing they absolutely needed to explain in the comic with time travel.
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May 1, 2023 02:05
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theres a bizarre storyline where the cowardly character antoine undergoes character development to not be a coward and starts dating the rabbot only for penders to get angry over another writing doing this and revealing it was all an evil twin from another universe impersonating him the entire time undoing all of it
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May 1, 2023 02:07
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or maybe that was one of penders cowriters doing it to penders because they were always fighting over dumb poo poo and using the comic to piss the other off lol
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May 1, 2023 02:08
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penders wanted to name knuckles half brother (long story lol) mace and karl bollars wanted to name him kneecap. penders wrote in the name mace first but bollars one upped him by revealing the child's full was knecapeon mace in a later issue owning penders
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May 1, 2023 02:12
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KingKalamari posted:In non-Penders weirdness from the comic, you also have the revelation that the entire series takes place thousands of years in the future on a post-apocalyptic Earth after it was genocided by evil aliens, and that one issue with a convoluted time-travel plot they did to explain why Sonic's character design changed for the release of Sonic Adventure. Y'know, that thing they absolutely needed to explain in the comic with time travel. I could see why they felt the need to do this, except I seem to recall that the characters paid almost no attention to the changes in Sonic's body proportions (something that may have actually necessitated something like a time travel plot to justify) and mostly focused on the minor changes to Sonic's wardrobe.
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May 1, 2023 02:12
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KingKalamari posted:In non-Penders weirdness from the comic, you also have the revelation that the entire series takes place thousands of years in the future on a post-apocalyptic Earth after it was genocided by evil aliens, and that one issue with a convoluted time-travel plot they did to explain why Sonic's character design changed for the release of Sonic Adventure. Y'know, that thing they absolutely needed to explain in the comic with time travel. See also: Amy Rose using up a mystical wishing artifact so she could be older and more like the canon Amy and Charmy Bee getting brain damage to explain him going from a normal adult king of an entire bee kingdom to the mentality of a child like the canon Charmy.
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May 1, 2023 02:18
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when the original robotnik was killed they introduced a new robotnik that was a robot from a different dimension but with the same backstory to take his place and a few issues later he turned himself into the adventures eggman design after downloading his brain into a new body
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May 1, 2023 02:25
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ken penders owns the concept of robo-robotnik the robot robotnik
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May 1, 2023 02:25
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:ken penders owns the concept of robo-robotnik the robot robotnik Does he own a version of Tails because he's real close to having his own version of the whole main cast. There's Titan Tails but I feel like that ended up owned by someone else.
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May 1, 2023 02:34
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I don't think it was Ken but archie comics had princess Sally having to strip naked to dip herself in a golden pond because her dad and all her ancestors did it for some weird generational trauma reason One arc had a dude who was drawn like the rankin bass hobbit who just happened to, be there I guess, as a human and it was the author's self insert
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