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Areola Grande posted:better be good if it's a derned $70 zelder Shouldn't video games cost around $100 if the price rose with inflation and development costs? |
# ? Apr 24, 2023 19:28 |
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Farecoal posted:Shouldn't video games cost around $100 if the price rose with inflation and development costs? if they kept pace with development costs, waaaaaaaaaaaay more than that but yeah new games in the 90s cost between 50 and 70, most goods cost ~2x what they did then. games cost 10x more to make than they did but sell for the same price. it's why so many games have subscriptions (or battle passes, which are basically subscriptions) and/or microtransactions
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# ? Apr 24, 2023 19:42 |
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some super nintendo carts back in the day cost an incredible amount of money. pretty mind blowing
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# ? Apr 24, 2023 20:15 |
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I guess I'm spoiled. I've got a hacked 3DS and it's all I've been playing. after doing this for long enough u start thinking all games should be free which gives that $70 price an extra sting Areola Grande fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Apr 24, 2023
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# ? Apr 24, 2023 20:18 |
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I had assumed that video game prices were able to stay the same or decrease due to the sheer size of the gaming audience. Back then, Eye of the Beholder sold about 150k copies in 1991 and Ultima 6 sold 100k copies. These were games that made enough to have multiple sequels and are classics in their own right. But as PC gaming and the Internet hit its stride in the middle of the decade, things really took off. Myst sold 500k copies in its first year in 1993, and continued to have even greater sales in successive years until the numbers started to dip in 1998, about six million total copies. Doom, released in 1993, sold 3.5 million physical copies as of 1999. For a console based comparison, Final Fantasy 6, released in 1994, sold 3.48 million copies by 2003. Ocarina of Time, released in 1998, sold more than 7 million copies. Contrast that with Breath of the Wild (2017), which sold 29 million copies. And the Let's Go pokemon series (2018), which sold 14.33 million copies. And COD Modern Warfare II, which made $1B in 10 days upon release in 2022. A modestly successful game like Shovel Knight sold 1.5M copies. It's still a really difficult business and you have to sell a lot and do a lot of juggling to stay alive. The size of the audience has grown substantially, which is one aspect of why focusing on numbers can be a bit limiting. There are a million other changes, such as the prevalence of digital distribution and the proliferation of post-release content and the whole genre of MMOs and "freemium" games, that can affect pricing. I played BotW the whole way through and didn't feel the need to get the DLC, since it didn't really add to the story. I hope the sequel takes a similar tack. |
# ? Apr 24, 2023 22:24 |
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I need to play torchlight pretty sure I got it for cheap in a humble bundle somewhere |
# ? Apr 24, 2023 22:29 |
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sb hermit posted:I had assumed that video game prices were able to stay the same or decrease due to the sheer size of the gaming audience. yeah, you're absolutely right, this is a lot of it. however the flip side is true too -- selling a million copies of a traditional buy-it-once-and-now-you-own-it game means it's probably a failure. indie games can be the exception, but it's hard to sell a million copies of a game no one's ever heard of, so for every hades there's a thousand (honestly probably more) games that don't go anywhere games cost so much more to make because they're so much more complicated now. a team size that could have made a good game that sold well in the 90s is gonna be about the size of the team for a single feature in a modern AAA game. it's honestly buck wild that any game ever gets made
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# ? Apr 24, 2023 22:48 |
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more falafel please posted:it's honestly buck wild that ftfy |
# ? Apr 24, 2023 22:54 |
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more falafel please posted:yeah, you're absolutely right, this is a lot of it. however the flip side is true too -- selling a million copies of a traditional buy-it-once-and-now-you-own-it game means it's probably a failure. indie games can be the exception, but it's hard to sell a million copies of a game no one's ever heard of, so for every hades there's a thousand (honestly probably more) games that don't go anywhere money goes in, money comes out, same as it ever was I have to admit, dlc is a good way to keep devs busy on something that will make money until the next contract comes around. It's a hard business |
# ? Apr 24, 2023 23:08 |
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sb hermit posted:I need to play torchlight i had a lot of fun with that Video Jame, def worth a play
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# ? Apr 24, 2023 23:27 |
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modded my 3ds last weekend and it is the poo poo Fantasy Life is my new jam |
# ? Apr 25, 2023 00:11 |
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SUN DAWG posted:modded my 3ds last weekend and it is the poo poo it truly is the poo poo. haven't tried fantasy life yet but I heard it's v chill
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# ? Apr 25, 2023 00:15 |
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Areola Grande posted:it truly is the poo poo. haven't tried fantasy life yet but I heard it's v chill it is v chill |
# ? Apr 25, 2023 00:45 |
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Dr. Honked posted:i had a lot of fun with that Video Jame, def worth a play |
# ? Apr 25, 2023 01:29 |
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thinkin bout playing Doki Doki Literature Club. any goons care to weigh in? I heard it's p disturbing
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# ? Apr 28, 2023 20:44 |
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a Zelda is $70, a zelda (non cap) is 1/100 of a Zelda, or $0.70
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# ? Apr 28, 2023 20:47 |
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vanisher posted:a Zelda is $70, a zelda (non cap) is 1/100 of a Zelda, or $0.70 in US labelling a zelda is the same as a kilozelda (or kZel) in the rest of the world
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# ? Apr 28, 2023 20:59 |
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Areola Grande posted:thinkin bout playing Doki Doki Literature Club. any goons care to weigh in? I heard it's p disturbing It definitely is but I would still play it. I've only played the original free version |
# ? Apr 28, 2023 21:56 |
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Farecoal posted:It definitely is but I would still play it. I've only played the original free version that's what I'm playing. just started it
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# ? Apr 28, 2023 21:58 |
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I'm playing a home brew port of it for 3DS. the 3D looks good but the audio is kinda crackly |
# ? Apr 28, 2023 21:59 |
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Uh, I had no idea it was on the 3DS, but I wouldn't recommend playing that version... or any other but the one on PC. You see, the point of it is being able to actually to go into the game's installation directory and change things to modify in-game outcomes. It legit expects you to cheat like that and I can't imagine that sort of thing working on a game console.
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# ? Apr 28, 2023 23:03 |
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Saoshyant posted:Uh, I had no idea it was on the 3DS, but I wouldn't recommend playing that version... or any other but the one on PC. You see, the point of it is being able to actually to go into the game's installation directory and change things to modify in-game outcomes. It legit expects you to cheat like that and I can't imagine that sort of thing working on a game console. officially it's not available on 3DS but there's a busy home brew scene for those willing to hack/modify their machine
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# ? Apr 29, 2023 00:16 |
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apparently the madden games don't get released on the switch for some reason. the switch does have fist of the north star fitness boxing though, so it's kind of a wash. |
# ? Apr 29, 2023 01:13 |
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Prof. Crocodile posted:apparently the madden games don't get released on the switch for some reason. the switch does have fist of the north star fitness boxing though, so it's kind of a wash. it's really hard to make a game that simultaneously targets the ps5/xsx, the ps4/XB1, and a decent android phone from 2016
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# ? Apr 29, 2023 01:47 |
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the x bone's connected to the p bone
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# ? Apr 29, 2023 22:15 |
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no wait ummmmmm
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# ? Apr 29, 2023 22:15 |
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I'm gonna play Hollow Night tomorrow |
# ? Apr 29, 2023 23:42 |
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Quadramind posted:I'm gonna play Hollow Night tomorrow good timing the sequel is out soon. have fun. hollow Knight is a masterpiece and I think fondly of it often
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# ? Apr 29, 2023 23:46 |
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Im playing cult of the lamb currently, it's about a lamb having a cult, and of the
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# ? May 1, 2023 19:37 |
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Goatse and Gallant posted:Im playing cult of the lamb currently, it's about a lamb having a cult, and of the is that good? the trailer looked p good |
# ? May 1, 2023 19:56 |
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more falafel please posted:it's really hard to make a game that simultaneously targets the ps5/xsx, the ps4/XB1, and a decent android phone from 2016 At least the form factor is catching on with gaming laptops, first the steam deck, now Asus has a Rog in that shape coming out. I don't think either is at a good price point yet but the fact that multiple have now is a very good sign for the future! Steamdeck has that nice compatibility layer and running on Linux it's likely to be the better value in the current lineup if you really want something, Asus is running full Windows if you want to run non steam stuff (you can buy windows and boot into it on the steamdeck if you really need / want)
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# ? May 1, 2023 19:57 |
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rear end-penny posted:is that good? the trailer looked p good It's a bit like Binding of Isaac but less wild and complicated in terms of the actual gameplay, which I prefer a lot as Isaac is way too much for me personally, but in exchange they have an entire crafting and city building part of the game away from fighting and dungeon crawling, where you build a growing camp for your flock of cultists, feed them, manage them, cook food and farm stuff for them, while you also give them orders and they do stuff for you, sometimes you also have to make hard decisions like imprisoning someone who wants to defect and is trying to convince others to not believe your lies or even kill them and turn their infidel flesh into a tasty meal or sacrifice them for your lord or make a big and honorful burial for your trusty cultists who followed you into death and so on It's fun, it's not serious at all and you serve apparently the literal devil or something, but also you are a lamb and your cultists are cute little animals (that turn into red eyed monsters if they defect from you) that you take care of AND you can name both your cult as well as every single cultist, change their entire appearance etc individually Mine is the Cult of the Butt I have nothing but trusty following assholes serving me and my powerful lord
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# ? May 1, 2023 21:28 |
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Goatse and Gallant posted:Mine is the Cult of the Butt I have nothing but trusty following assholes serving me and my powerful lord |
# ? May 1, 2023 23:29 |
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I have never heard of this Binding of Isaac either. lol thank you for the name of your cult tho, extremely on brand for you. |
# ? May 2, 2023 01:52 |
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Oh that's also some dungeon crawler thing, like, you shoot things and crawl through things that look like dungeons and you get power ups only for one run and so on. Either way, this is just like that but with a management branch and cults about butts!
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# ? May 2, 2023 06:51 |
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It also doesn't have Binding of Isaac's edgy 2005-era Newgrounds aesthetic. Do you like guts, crying babies, and poop? Binding of Isaac is for you! |
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rear end-penny posted:I have never heard of this Binding of Isaac either. It's been out for more than a decade (the remake since 2014) so it's got a lot of content. Personally I've always liked watching people play it more than doing it myself though |
# ? May 2, 2023 12:43 |
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y'all are seriously underestimating how good I am at not hearing about things until someone sets them right in front of me.
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# ? May 2, 2023 13:08 |
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poop is funny to me still but idk kinda nasty in binding of isaac. has flies on the turds and everything. |
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# ? May 21, 2024 00:32 |
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got back into mtg arena. the new set is fun and I'm winning a lot of games |
# ? May 2, 2023 13:35 |