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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/may/02/world-chess-championship-ding-liren-china-ian-nepomniachtchi-russia-astana Ian is pretty salty. Claims his sleeping meds went missing and insinuates that was intentional dirty tricks.
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Agreed to disagree. There are innumerable other events where gamesmanship is prized. There are many faster time control tournaments and matches. Having one classical time control event where humans grapple with interesting positions (even if it means 20 moves of theory to get there) is not a big ask. Compromising it via rapid tiebreaks and anemic play is disappointing. Maybe it’s time for me to just stop posting. I’ll check back in later. Enjoy your sport, and may your games be interesting.
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May 2, 2023 16:04
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Sub Rosa posted:https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/may/02/world-chess-championship-ding-liren-china-ian-nepomniachtchi-russia-astana quote:“It’s quite painful,” Nepomniachtchi says. “It’s not enough to be a good player and get good positions. You also have to strike and to deliver. It was unexpected to have such an early lead with such ease and also unexpected to see how underprepared he was, both just playing wise and mentally. Sad to see Nepo being a sore loser.
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Yes, but objectively, is he wrong? Compared to the usual type of play we see in these matches, and with Ding's collapses, I don't necessarily think Nepo is wrong. That said, obviously, don't loving say that, and especially not right now, you doofus.
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Anias posted:Agreed to disagree. There are innumerable other events where gamesmanship is prized. There are many faster time control tournaments and matches. Having one classical time control event where humans grapple with interesting positions (even if it means 20 moves of theory to get there) is not a big ask. Compromising it via rapid tiebreaks and anemic play is disappointing. Maybe it’s time for me to just stop posting. I’ll check back in later. Enjoy your sport, and may your games be interesting. Sounds like you want centaur chess. The ICCF is right here.
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May 2, 2023 16:23
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Give me my sloppy blunder fest and pass the butter!
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May 2, 2023 16:37
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Pretty proud of the move I found here in a recent game - got the ol' "brilliant" annotation on chess.com and my opponent resigned immediately after I played it. White to move.  Answer:c6
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May 2, 2023 19:48
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Satire Forum Mom posted:Answer:c6 It is so easy to forget the simplest solutions. One of the biggest weaknesses in my game is forgetting to look at how to attack with my pawns in middle game
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Sataere posted:
Yeah, it can be tough to remain cool under pressure and really assess the danger some threats pose. I was really glad I remembered that passers should usually be pushed!
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May 2, 2023 20:29
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Satire Forum Mom posted:Oooh, that's a nice one.
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totalnewbie posted:Yes, but objectively, is he wrong? Compared to the usual type of play we see in these matches, and with Ding's collapses, I don't necessarily think Nepo is wrong. guess who else fails to live up to nepo’s standards? plus ding had a few winning positions that he ended up not converting too, it went both ways
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May 3, 2023 00:51
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Wondering if there's a chance Hikaru climbs to the top for a championship match in the future. Didn't actually know he rose to no.5 with his wins lately and I'd love to see the guy make it to the biggest stage.
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May 3, 2023 02:39
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Anias posted:Agreed to disagree. There are innumerable other events where gamesmanship is prized. There are many faster time control tournaments and matches. Having one classical time control event where humans grapple with interesting positions (even if it means 20 moves of theory to get there) is not a big ask. Compromising it via rapid tiebreaks and anemic play is disappointing. Maybe it’s time for me to just stop posting. I’ll check back in later. Enjoy your sport, and may your games be interesting. They should change the world championship to chessboxing.
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May 3, 2023 02:49
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They should change classical chess so you're allowed to trash talk your opponent.
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May 3, 2023 02:52
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Watching Hikaru Nakamura become world champion through the power of screaming "HORSEY TO C5 BITCH? HAHAHAHA gently caress YOU" in every other player's face until they cry
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May 3, 2023 02:53
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im not sure hikaru is the mentally strongest player either lol
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May 3, 2023 03:20
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fart simpson posted:im not sure hikaru is the mentally strongest player either lol oh no he was just the first one who came to mind when I thought which top player likes to run their mouth
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May 3, 2023 03:21
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chess boxing is the future of chess, i think every serious chess player knows this
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fart simpson posted:im not sure hikaru is the mentally strongest player either lol Well there's at least one top player who pays attention to psychology and order https://twitter.com/rjrapport/status/1653429239603970049
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May 3, 2023 09:16
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lol https://twitter.com/dazi180turtle/status/1653458576621334528?s=20
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May 3, 2023 09:22
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rollick posted:Well there's at least one top player who pays attention to psychology and order lol
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lol
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vyelkin posted:Watching Hikaru Nakamura become world champion through the power of screaming "HORSEY TO C5 BITCH? HAHAHAHA gently caress YOU" in every other player's face until they cry I think anyone like nakamura or carlsen going into this would be like elon musk buying twitter expecting to be loved
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May 3, 2023 15:38
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Anyway, as to the question of 'better or worse chess' I'd encourage people not to think of it like "closer to or further from computer optimal play." When play is criticized for being sloppy or whatever it's not for shedding half points of silicon eval, it's for things like a lack of coherency or thoroughness, or just generally missing ideas a human would be expected to see. As I mentioned in a previous post, the gold standard of 'proper' chess is probably a guy like Ulf Andersson, who was never even really in the title picture. But he's held up because when he played, especially in his good games, with a very coherent set of ideas and a very deep understanding. I suspect that even the 'bad' Ding-Nepomniachtchi games had higher computer accuracy scores than Andersson's best games, but Andersson's games are considered better because they demonstrate a certain type of thematic (and schematic) understanding.
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May 3, 2023 15:45
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Fabi said back during the Hans saga that he finds the play of the kids these days hard to understand. There's more of a willingness to emulate wild computer lines
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What an amazing WCC. I figured it'd be an afterthought since Magnus wasn't playing but my goodness. I'm glad the rest of the chess community got invested in this because I haven't felt this stressed watching a chess game since game 10 of Karjakin Carlsen. The sequence 46...Rg6 47. Qf5 c4 48. h4 Qd3 is such an instructive moment for those who rely on the engine to judge the players. The bar didn't drop until 48. h4 because the completely inhuman 48. Qf4 was possible, but to the naked eye Ian missed that. He didn't, how the gently caress do you even find that. Fabi, Hikaru, and Dubov all immediately recognized 47. Qf5 as the blunder as opposed to h4. I think that's why having the bar without the lines available is so good for chess commentary - reminds me of Starcraft BW where commentators had no information and had to figure it out for themselves.  Amazing match, can't wait to see Ding moving forward and exploring his history through the content creators who are rummaging through his games to analyze him cause god knows if I know what's going on. 
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rollick posted:Well there's at least one top player who pays attention to psychology and order Im sorry but I can't just move past this.
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Salt Fish posted:Im sorry but I can't just move past this. it’s really funny
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I wouldn't have been surprised if Magnus is an andrew tate stan but I wanted Richie to be a nice little weirdoe.
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May 4, 2023 06:49
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Rapport couldn't participate in the Sinquefield Cup last August because of "US travel restrictions related to Covid 19". (he got replaced by Hans Niemann, recall). The exact reason wasn't confirmed, but the main restriction at the time was that you had to be vaccinated, so...
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May 4, 2023 11:24
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vyelkin posted:They should change classical chess so you're allowed to trash talk your opponent. They should also let you eat cold meals and snacks. No hot meals like chowders or stews or even boiled cabbage or whathaveyou.
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May 4, 2023 23:56
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bringing my secret weapon to the world championship: a vintage bag of sun chips
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May 5, 2023 00:03
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Give each player a fully stocked kitchen, complete with a stove right next to the board.
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May 5, 2023 00:18
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Checkmate is worth 1 point, but also a panel of judges decides which player cooked the best three-course dinner during the game, and the winner of that also gets 1 point.
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May 5, 2023 00:20
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Iron Chess. Tonight's ingredients: codfish, and... the Dunst opening!
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Leperflesh posted:Iron Chess. Tonight's ingredients: codfish, and... the Dunst opening! allez, my queen!
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May 5, 2023 00:34
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Well he's resigned on the board, but the judges loved that sous vide and his chocolate cake got a handshake from Paul Hollywood, so it's another draw and we still don't have a world champion yet.
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May 5, 2023 00:34
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White opens with the Ruy Lopez and a lovely ceviche appetizer, and black responds with the Berlin and a flavorful lobster bisque.
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Finally the Fried Liver's time to shine.
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