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Escape From Noise
Jul 27, 2004

Most places I've worked here have had bidets. A+ experience IMHO.

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Johnny Truant
Jul 22, 2008




Using a bidet right now, never don't use one :yeah:

Escape From Noise
Jul 27, 2004

Johnny Truant posted:

Using a bidet right now, never don't use one :yeah:

I legit got culture shock going back to the US at the beginning of the month when I went to the toilet and there were no bidet buttons. Even the JAL airplane toilet had one!

Lazyfire
Feb 4, 2006

God saves. Satan Invests

zedprime posted:

Start asking the materials manager if they want the handlers to have to scan everything in and out because people's eyeballs unable to read packaging is how you start policies like scanning everything in and out

It's on my list of priorities because otherwise we're just waiting on a series of manual processes for everything involved in these outside vendor operations. It's been a problem for years because we don't give our vendors a bar code to print out and so stuff just...arrives in our facilities and disappears for weeks at a time or sits on a shelf because no one knows what to do with it because it went to the wrong dock or something. If the vendor put the right information on the packing documents sometimes you get a Receiving person that will take a look to see who issued the order, but that's rare. We've had parts just show up and get put in a crib for years without anyone asking what their deal was.

Case in point, I was asked three times during our morning meeting today if a part went to a vendor and when we could expect it back from them. I'm 300 miles from the people asking this question and they are on the floor of the shop that it shipped from (if it went). No one told me it was shipped and I have no way of seeing it did go. So now I have to ask the vendor to confirm it was delivered and when we could expect it back. That's really unprofessional and this is with a vendor who doesn't know us well and we're expecting to do a great deal of business with going forward.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

madeintaipei posted:

I mean, shouldn't that be done anyway?

In the very loose way DSD delivery in America works, every piece is checked at least four times. Discrepancies show up and are addressed at the beginning and end of the distribution chain to save time and (in theory) money. That's within systems where a few pieces only really matter for billing purposes, as long as it's not a consistent gently caress up, but still.

Even much of the EDI pay-by-scan product gets inventoried by someone within the shortest billing period possible in the system. Provided the data is analyzed higher up and acted upon, that gives a solid base to effect changes to accuracy all along the line. (If there's trust between everyone involved, if everyone utilizes the available tools, if there's a will to avoid circular billing due to mistakes, if, if, if).
Scan driven by warehouse management system logic is the world class solution for any warehousing or fulfillment to build in the audit power that lets idiots straight off the streets be accurate material handlers. It's also expensive and puts an onus on the trainers and managers who have to help the monumental idiots who don't know why something isn't scanning. Or other stupid poo poo that isn't a handler's fault like a messed up ASN, labelling or packaging.

DSD is at a case volume and SKU mix it gets really hard to do per product scans. Multiple point audits got popular here for this reason with picking either staying as dinosaur pick sheets or jumping straight to voice pick as audit point 1, with a loader (or manager) audit and the driver making final audit on delivery. This is at odds with the current DSD world class to have batch specific shipping records to make recalls a 100% accurate robocall process because the loader or driver ain't gonna see poo poo for date or batch codes on the packaging on a mixed DSD pallet. By the time we get the picker able to report their picks into the system I've found the need for a loader audit to evaporate and the driver can still do their thing but at that point it's almost an audit of their handheld POS as much as what's on the pallet. As for how to get batch/best before date info verified during picking, scan guns would be nice but we're apparently moving too fast for manufacturing packaging to catch up because we've never gotten anyone to agree to barcode it.

Incidentally, getting batch/best before date into warehouse bin data as prerequisite for system driven picks is a huge cheat code for stock rotation. Who could have guessed you can just stop throwing stock out except for huge national planner fuckups if you just ship first expired stock like you said you were going to.

Certain widget warehousing can get away with a lot more slack not following the world class. If a truck can hold like 10-20 pieces (because it's a van and not a semi, or because your widgets are one per pallet) or you're sending individual pieces by courier you don't have that obnoxious DSD SKU mix problem where you might have 50-100 SKUs per pallet across 2000+ cases on a deloverhbtruck. A lot less room for error, assuming you can trust a handler to read all the pick details like serial number. A scan will enforce all of this down to serial number assignment to an order but is it worth it? Sometimes not really.

Lazyfire posted:

It's on my list of priorities because otherwise we're just waiting on a series of manual processes for everything involved in these outside vendor operations. It's been a problem for years because we don't give our vendors a bar code to print out and so stuff just...arrives in our facilities and disappears for weeks at a time or sits on a shelf because no one knows what to do with it because it went to the wrong dock or something. If the vendor put the right information on the packing documents sometimes you get a Receiving person that will take a look to see who issued the order, but that's rare. We've had parts just show up and get put in a crib for years without anyone asking what their deal was.

Case in point, I was asked three times during our morning meeting today if a part went to a vendor and when we could expect it back from them. I'm 300 miles from the people asking this question and they are on the floor of the shop that it shipped from (if it went). No one told me it was shipped and I have no way of seeing it did go. So now I have to ask the vendor to confirm it was delivered and when we could expect it back. That's really unprofessional and this is with a vendor who doesn't know us well and we're expecting to do a great deal of business with going forward.
But if you're asking someone "did I ship you this?" Or "did we receive this?" you need some form of modern warehouse management system even if it's just inventory and orders held in an ERP not least of all because the other side could be absolute gently caress ups and tell you no even though the answer was yes. But I'm also biased because companies needing those keep me in my job.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Blue Moonlight posted:

You’ve got to demand remote work so you can move out of Silent Hill.

lol, been a long time since I thought about that wiki weirdo.

Outrail posted:

You can lie about university degrees as long as you're capable of the job and there's no legal certification required.

I was on the sidelines once when it was discovered someone had lied about having a history PhD. This was in a job that required security checks, so the fallout when it was discovered they lied during hte hiring process was glorious.

It also cost the company they were working through a contract because it turns out that "verifying the person who says they have a PhD has a PhD" is considered the bare loving minimum for supplying contract labor.

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Cyrano4747 posted:

lol, been a long time since I thought about that wiki weirdo.

I was on the sidelines once when it was discovered someone had lied about having a history PhD. This was in a job that required security checks, so the fallout when it was discovered they lied during hte hiring process was glorious.

It also cost the company they were working through a contract because it turns out that "verifying the person who says they have a PhD has a PhD" is considered the bare loving minimum for supplying contract labor.

Lol nice. Apparently reviewing PhD statuses for fun is a hobby in Germany. They’ve had defense and education ministers wind up resigning over it after getting caught.

quote:

BERLIN — For 32 years, the German education minister’s 351-page dissertation sat on a shelf at Heinrich Heine University in Düsseldorf gathering dust while its author pursued a successful political career that carried her to the highest circles of the German government.

The academic work was a time bomb, however, and it exploded last year when an anonymous blogger published a catalog of passages suspected of having been lifted from other publications without proper attribution.

The university revoked the doctorate of the minister, Prof. Dr. Annette Schavan, on Tuesday (she retains the title pending appeal), and on Saturday she was forced to resign her cabinet post. It was the second time a minister had resigned from the government of Chancellor Angela Merkel over plagiarism in less than two years.

quote:

Many Germans believe the scandals are rooted in their abiding respect, and even lust, for academic accolades, including the use of Prof. before Dr. and occasionally Dr. Dr. for those with two doctoral degrees. Prof. Dr. Volker Rieble, a law professor at Ludwig Maximilian University of Munich, calls this obsession “title arousal.”

“In other countries people aren’t as vain about their titles,” he said. “With this obsession for titles, of course, comes title envy.”

quote:

For the plagiarism scalp hunters, the abundance of titles provides what in military circles is known as a target-rich environment, and digging up academic deception by politicians has become an unlikely political blood sport.

There is even a collaborative, wiki-style platform where people can anonymously inspect academic texts, known as VroniPlag.

Here in the homeland of schadenfreude, the zeal for unmasking academic frauds also reflects certain Teutonic traits, including a rigid adherence to principle and a know-it-all streak. “I just think that many Germans have a police gene in their genetic makeup,” Dr. Rieble said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/10/...&smid=url-share

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

That does all sound very German, and I do enjoy how the Germans acknowledge as much.

It's weird, Norwegian and German are close relatives, and there is a lot of cultural and linguistic shared history... but that fascination with titles never made it here. I blame Norway being so sparsely populated we couldn't support a nobility back when that was significant.

Takes No Damage
Nov 20, 2004

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.


Grimey Drawer

Hyrax Attack! posted:

Lol nice. Apparently reviewing PhD statuses for fun is a hobby in Germany. They’ve had defense and education ministers wind up resigning over it after getting caught.

quote:

Many Germans believe the scandals are rooted in their abiding respect, and even lust, for academic accolades, including the use of Prof. before Dr. and occasionally Dr. Dr. for those with two doctoral degrees.

Dr. Dr., give me the news

postmodifier
Nov 24, 2004

The LIQUOR BOTTLES are out in full force.
MOM is surely nearby.
It's super weird in the liberal arts side of stuff, because the difference between having a PhD or not is just a fake book that no one will really ever read ever again or publish unless you pour a shitton more work into it

I did my 10 years of graduate school and at the end of it my dissertation advisor got cancer and went on leave at the same time that my entire premise kinda got upended by massive industry changes

And so I quit, walked away, burned out, never defended to turn me into a de facto doctor of philosophy

I still did all the work, learned all the things, read everything, talk to me and I'll give you a quarter of a million dollars worth of information whenever you want

The cool part is you can still cite that poo poo on your resume, you just write ABD (all but dissertation) and you can say whatever the hell you want, because nobody anywhere knows how to verify any of it

Don't do that for like, engineering, but if you want to pretend you're the foremost expert on Shakespeare, most of those fuckers have been making up nonsense for decades, so join in

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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Half the population doesn't know what the letters mean, just having letters is good enough.

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*Real Professional Shitposter

postmodifier
Nov 24, 2004

The LIQUOR BOTTLES are out in full force.
MOM is surely nearby.
It's beautiful because one of my degrees is an MST, which is not very common in the USA

So anyone trying to check up on it in google
just gets millions of hits about a weird dude with robot friends watching bad movies

It's legit a "masters of science in teaching" which is a niche thing that only a few (very famous and accredited) places give out, but it's 99% manos the hands of fate when they deep dive

tinytort
Jun 10, 2013

Super healthy, super cheap
One of my coworkers (senior to me) told me to toss half the rolls of toilet paper in the staff bathroom today. Nothing's wrong with them, he just feels it looks bad to have so many that we've got most of a shelf dedicated to rolls for the staff-only toilet.

I didn't manage to get around to it before I had to leave, and I'm going to be confirming with a manager that they should be tossed (and ask if I can take them home or something instead, if so), because it feels like a massive waste to just throw out useable toilet paper.

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde

tinytort posted:

One of my coworkers (senior to me) told me to toss half the rolls of toilet paper in the staff bathroom today. Nothing's wrong with them, he just feels it looks bad to have so many that we've got most of a shelf dedicated to rolls for the staff-only toilet.

I didn't manage to get around to it before I had to leave, and I'm going to be confirming with a manager that they should be tossed (and ask if I can take them home or something instead, if so), because it feels like a massive waste to just throw out useable toilet paper.
Or donate them to a homeless or women's shelter ffs (letting employees take it home is fine), why is the first thought "let's throw away this perfectly good stuff?" Even if you're a cynical rear end in a top hat middle manager, you should know if you donate it then it can be written off on taxes so if nothing else donating is self-serving!

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

postmodifier posted:

The cool part is you can still cite that poo poo on your resume, you just write ABD (all but dissertation) and you can say whatever the hell you want, because nobody anywhere knows how to verify any of it

Just don't mistakenly write "ABDL".

That probably won't help your job application.

Jack-Off Lantern
Mar 2, 2012

Agents are GO! posted:

Just don't mistakenly write "ABDL".

That probably won't help your job application.

Sometimes i wish I didn't know the weird abbreviations but I do

TaurusTorus
Mar 27, 2010

Grab the bullshit by the horns

So I had two days off and the ashtray chamber is still there. I guess it just lives in my bay now, an obelisk to failure.

But it isn’t my failure, so it’s fine.

tinytort
Jun 10, 2013

Super healthy, super cheap

SubponticatePoster posted:

Or donate them to a homeless or women's shelter ffs (letting employees take it home is fine), why is the first thought "let's throw away this perfectly good stuff?" Even if you're a cynical rear end in a top hat middle manager, you should know if you donate it then it can be written off on taxes so if nothing else donating is self-serving!

He's not even a manager, and I haven't gotten any confirmation from an actual manager that this is a thing I need to do. All he told me was "it looks bad" when I asked why he wants me to toss it.

I'm not 100% sure if we could donate it, because this is all opened and partially-used. (A lot of it is rolls from the guest washrooms that were low enough to need replacing but weren't completely used up.) But that would definitely be better than just dumping it in the trash.

Escape From Noise
Jul 27, 2004

Goddamn the cold room is just a lost cause at this point I think.

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

tinytort posted:

He's not even a manager, and I haven't gotten any confirmation from an actual manager that this is a thing I need to do. All he told me was "it looks bad" when I asked why he wants me to toss it.

I'm not 100% sure if we could donate it, because this is all opened and partially-used. (A lot of it is rolls from the guest washrooms that were low enough to need replacing but weren't completely used up.) But that would definitely be better than just dumping it in the trash.

TP their car.

Takes No Damage
Nov 20, 2004

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.


Grimey Drawer

tinytort posted:

But that would definitely be better than just dumping it in the trash.

I haven't bought paper towels, tissue or TP in literal years. Sounds like somebody needs to get jumped into the TRC Technically Robbery Crew.

Wild EEPROM
Jul 29, 2011


oh, my, god. Becky, look at her bitrate.
Help em out, leave early so you can take them to the local dump for the company

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

postmodifier posted:

It's super weird in the liberal arts side of stuff, because the difference between having a PhD or not is just a fake book that no one will really ever read ever again or publish unless you pour a shitton more work into it

I've just got a lowly master degree in informatics, but I work in cancer research and we have a lot of students coming through. It's quite streamlined, though that's also partially because that has been a goal for university educations in Norway for a while:

After generic high school, you can do either a 3 year bachelor plus a 2 year master, or a unified 5 year master. We have some master students writing their theses with us: They are typically not publishable as a paper, but do at least show that you can both test an idea in the lab and write a coherent summary of it.

After that, you may get a PhD student position, if we have a supervisor with time and funding: They're known as stipendiates, and are full-time employees with a reasonable wage. In 2.5 years they are supposed to have at least two published papers and a draft, and their thesis is those papers plus a framing story (the "coat"). Your MSc thesis is often the core of the first paper, but it doesn't have to be.

Oh, and everybody lies in the coat - you're supposed to explain how the papers form a coherent story that you had planned ahead, and that's very rarely how anything works.

Then you hand that in, the committee reviews it, and half a year later you defend it. It's a fairly standardised format:

Two weeks ahead of time you get handed a topic in your field but not directly in your thesis, for you to write a presentation "suited for an interested first year student with no specific background knowledge".

On the day, you first present this, and they are supposed to evaluate your competence as a lecturer (since the PhD gives you a right to do lectures at the university), and if you pass (everyone does) you go on to the actual defense: 2x1 hour sessions where specialists from other universities discuss your thesis with you. Again, I've never seen anyone fail, but it is of course a bit nerve racking to have everything you've done picked apart in front of an audience. Some defenses are great, fun, discussions, and some are nitpicking and people so stressed they can barely pronounce their own name.

And then it's time to start applying for postdoc positions or industry jobs or whatever.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

And just to tie it back in: Nobody reads your thesis, except your advisor, the opponents, and maybe some especially dedicated friends and family. But people do actually read the papers, sometimes.

Chewbecca
Feb 13, 2005

Just chillin' : )
Dumb poo poo your work does: all of it. everything. every single thing is hosed.

Sywert of Thieves
Nov 7, 2005

The pirate code is really more of a guideline, than actual rules.

Computer viking posted:

And then it's time to start applying for postdoc positions or industry jobs or whatever.

I've done two master's degrees and both times it was a very mind-numbing and depressing year. And then there were people in those departments who choose to do that for 4-5 years for their PhD. And then, there were people who chose to do another x years of that poo poo, after that. It absolutely boggled my mind, it was so depressing

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope

Agents are GO! posted:

Just don't mistakenly write "ABDL".

That probably won't help your job application.

Jack-Off Lantern posted:

Sometimes i wish I didn't know the weird abbreviations but I do

:emptyquote: :smith:

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Sywert of Thieves posted:

I've done two master's degrees and both times it was a very mind-numbing and depressing year. And then there were people in those departments who choose to do that for 4-5 years for their PhD. And then, there were people who chose to do another x years of that poo poo, after that. It absolutely boggled my mind, it was so depressing

I honestly enjoyed my Masters - two years of first picking fun subjects to study and then getting to focus on a single interesting problem.

Can I ask what your theses were about?

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

FWIW there are absolutely industries where there is a very real difference between a ABD and PhD, even for humanities degrees.

The contracting/consulting field in particular is just awash in humanities ABDs, to the point where having the paper is a very real leg up. It's also useful for demonstration prior experience if your degree is even vaguely (and I do mean vaguely) related to the position you're applying to, doubly so if you're looking at government jobs.

I'll poo poo talk academia with the best of them, but saying that an ABD and a PhD are the same for job applications just isn't true.

(edit: bailing out ABD is still often the correct decision, especially given that in a lot of humanities programs coursework and comps finish up around year three, while it can take another 2-5 years to finish the dissertation. The opportunity cost of that lost time in the job market is huge, and if you know that you're not going to go into academia cutting your losses with whatever consolation MA your program gives around the year 2 mark and hitting the bricks is almost always the right call.)

Cyrano4747 fucked around with this message at 13:35 on May 3, 2023

BrideOfUglycat
Oct 30, 2000

Agents are GO! posted:

Just don't mistakenly write "ABDL".

That probably won't help your job application.

Jack-Off Lantern posted:

Sometimes i wish I didn't know the weird abbreviations but I do

I write smut and have also been helping someone do research on ADHD treatments...

The number of times CBT comes up and I have to reset my brain is way higher than it should be.

I'll leave you to figure out in which direction that goes... (Spoiler alert: It's both. )

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

Computer viking posted:

And just to tie it back in: Nobody reads your thesis, except your advisor, the opponents, and maybe some especially dedicated friends and family. But people do actually read the papers, sometimes.

To add to this, one of my committee members spent at least half of my defense asleep

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Computer viking posted:

After generic high school, you can do either a 3 year bachelor plus a 2 year master, or a unified 5 year master.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.


Getting a master degree after high school always takes five years, but some places treat it as 3+2 with a clear separation, and others as "5 (and we'll mail you a BSc diploma after 3)".

I did a mix/match: 3 year BSc from a community college near me, 2 year university MSc on top. Which was identical to the last two years of their 5-year MSc program. Doesn't really matter either way, though I did write a bachelor thesis, which is not super common.

Of course, you can also get out with a bachelor's degree - most of my community college classmates went straight to work afterwards, and it seems to have worked out fine for them. I like my peaceful if underpaid corner of academia, though.

Computer viking fucked around with this message at 16:40 on May 3, 2023

Serious_Cyclone
Oct 25, 2017

I appreciate your patience, this is a tricky maneuver

Computer viking posted:

And just to tie it back in: Nobody reads your thesis, except your advisor, the opponents, and maybe some especially dedicated friends and family. But people do actually read the papers, sometimes.

The advisor and committee rarely read the thesis either.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Serious_Cyclone posted:

The advisor and committee rarely read the thesis either.

Your advisor should be reading it, albeit in parts.

Basically - and understand that this is going to depend a lot on the institution, even more on the field, I'm painting with a really broad brush here - your advisor's main job is to make sure that your dissertation is in a defensible state before it's ever submitted. The REAL defense is getting the person who's been working with you for the last few years to agree that "yeah, this could get a PhD," after that it's mostly a formality and a friendly conversation about your research. A lot of that is going to be submitting drafts and getting feedback, and likely some one-on-one instruction in how to not write like an rear end in a top hat. Looking back on it I must have spent at least 100 hours sitting in my advisor's office, going over my latest draft with him, and generally talking about my project.

Now, how closely they read your stuff is usually going to be weighted towards the front end of things. God the first couple of drafts of the first few chapters I sent him were loving abysmal. Just garbage. Like sitting here typing this I'm actively embarrassed for the gutter tier drek I made him read. I think I submitted my second chapter (the first substantial one with core arguments - the first was more or less a literature review and an outline of my general argument) to him 3 or 4 times before it got acceptable. Around the 4th chapter he actually said it was OK as is and just gave me some mild notes on grammar with a comment that he was glad I was clicking along and to keep them coming. I know for a fact that he read them all - I've still got the versions with his notes on them - but I doubt he so much as opened the final, bound copy that I sent out to the reviewers. By that time he'd already read the entire thing multiple times and knew my project almost as well as I did.

If your committee members are involved in your editorial process you'll be looking at something similar. I kept mine updated on my progress and had some broad conversations with them about my ideas, but didn't submit drafts. That was all good, I got some really good feedback and ideas on stuff like literature outside my normal interests to look at for ideas on furthering my research, some good takes from people with fundamentally different research topics than I did, that kind of thing. I don't doubt that most of them read it, but I also strongly suspect that they read the intro and conclusion chapters closely and skimmed the gently caress out of the middle unless there was something specific they were looking for. I've got a friend who had a committee member who, due to their particular topic, was almost as closely involved as their advisor. That was a blessing and a curse, at one point they ended up with dueling revision suggestions.

Then at the other end of the spectrum you can have people who suck. I had one committee member who was an ex-advisor I dumped after a few years because I couldn't stand working with them (it was also an incredibly hostile work environment - very much thread material) who was kept on the committee for departmental political reasons. They never read my drafts, I didn't talk to them for years before the defense, they demanded I overnight them a copy of the dissertation to Europe where they were away on research (which cost me close to four hundred loving dollars) and then they never showed up to the defense. They were going to skype in, never connected, claimed technical difficulties. God they sucked.

But it didn't matter because, again, the signature that matters is your advisor's and a good one won't even let you schedule the defense unless they're 100% sure you'll get through it. A bad outcome is "accepted pending edits" the vast majority of the time.

I only know one person who failed a defense. It was for their MA, and they were the unique combination of someone who was absolutely assured of their own brilliance and who was a loving idiot. Their advisor (the same person I had as my advisor for my PhD defense, after dumping the first one) told them it wasn't good enough, they insisted on being allowed to defend, and they flamed out. The advisor basically just went "OK, if you're that dumb, let's do this" and they got bounced from the program.

Cyrano4747 fucked around with this message at 19:45 on May 3, 2023

Methylethylaldehyde
Oct 23, 2004

BAKA BAKA

BrideOfUglycat posted:

I write smut and have also been helping someone do research on ADHD treatments...

The number of times CBT comes up and I have to reset my brain is way higher than it should be.

I'll leave you to figure out in which direction that goes... (Spoiler alert: It's both. )

"The doctor used CBT as a form of CBT so that he would stop being such a creepy weirdo. It failed, and now he's a Reddit moderator on a number of CBT related groups."

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

It's very hard to do the kind of "debate the finer points for 30-60 minutes per opponent" defenses we do if the opponents haven't read the thesis - the ones we get sometimes fail in the other direction and start nitpicking spelling and formatting issues in the later chapters. I'm sure it helps that our theses tend to be quite short; the real meat is in the papers. Of course, the papers can suck in their own ways - but a published paper tends to have a minimum of quality, a standard structure, and some sort of story, so they should be slightly easier to get through.

And what Cyrano4747 says about your advisor is entirely true. If you get to the defense, you have basically passed. The hard part is convincing your advisor(s) that it's good enough to submit.

Serious_Cyclone
Oct 25, 2017

I appreciate your patience, this is a tricky maneuver

Cyrano4747 posted:

Your advisor should be reading it, albeit in parts.

Oh agreed, they definitely should be reading it.

tinytort
Jun 10, 2013

Super healthy, super cheap

Agents are GO! posted:

TP their car.

No clue where he parks.

Takes No Damage posted:

I haven't bought paper towels, tissue or TP in literal years. Sounds like somebody needs to get jumped into the TRC Technically Robbery Crew.

I'd be walking out with stuff, except I don't have a big enough bag and I don't have a car yet, so it'd be a bit more noticeable to try it. As is, I've just done pockets full of scrap rags that were too small to be useful for work (but perfectly sized for cleaning my glasses, or mending terrycloth toys), and the occasional pocket full of cookies wrapped in paper napkins.

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Super Waffle
Sep 25, 2007

I'm a hermaphrodite and my parents (40K nerds) named me Slaanesh, THANKS MOM
I once had a discarded/scrap over-shoulder restraint bar from the de-commissioned Hulk roller coaster in my cubicle but I was too chicken to attempt taking it off property, and I didn't have site parking access at the time. Still regret not trying to find a way, it got tossed :(

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