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Seventh Arrow
Jan 26, 2005

Stayin' Alive with a sixteenth-note fingerstyle funk feel, very groovy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVxV5AoSG8k

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Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
I'm a huge shithead and I want to graft a P bass pickup into my Sub Ray4. My reasoning is I only want 2 basses so having my bass tuned to C have a neck pickup too will make me not want to get a separate P bass just for that sound, and if I go with guitar fetish I can get a no-solder required P bass pickup and pre-soldered drop in wiring harness for $50 total

Obviously the difficult part of that is there's no routing or controls for a neck pickup, so I would need to route out the spot for it (on the cheap SUB brand stingrays the pickup is not attached to the pickguard. I don't even have a pickguard on it because it didn't come with one, bought it for pocket change totally beat to poo poo and missing parts from a MusicGoRound) and create some kinda new control plate/plug in jack cause I am gonna avoid tryin to hook anything up to the preexisting active EQ having bridge humbucker. I also don't have a router or a garage so I will likely be just drilling a bunch of loving holes with a large drill bit and creating a monstrosity second jack/control plate near the lower horn out of a spare pickguard.

This all sounds like an awful idea but it is the cheapest way to get what I want and I am a fan of horrific DIY instruments so I am kind of dead set on it. Is there anything I should know before doing this stupid thing?

Less weirdly, I have been playing this stingray more this week than I have since I bought it and jesus christ my back is killing me, all my guitars are featherweight tonka toys in comparison how do you do this for a lifetime

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

Trying out for a sludge/doom 3 piece next week. Songs are easy enough to learn. Is it good to have add my own little touches here and there for a band audition or should I play it straight?

Also how many people does it take to move an 8x10

Bill Posters
Apr 27, 2007

I'm tripping right now... Don't fuck this up for me.

Just one if you bolt a kick plate and some rollers to the bottom of the rear panel, with a handle at the top.

tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014

Am I a... bad person?
Am I???
Fun Shoe

Laserface posted:

Trying out for a sludge/doom 3 piece next week. Songs are easy enough to learn. Is it good to have add my own little touches here and there for a band audition or should I play it straight?

Also how many people does it take to move an 8x10

For sludge/doom, I would play it straight, personally, because these are their original songs, and this is an audition. Coming into it with "I learned this song, but I had some ideas in a couple spots I'd like you to hear" might come off as "your bass line was boring, so I changed it because I know what your songs need more than you do." Or it won't come off that way. But definitely play it straight, and maybe drop a hint that there's something you could add. Or, just add a little fill here and there--nothing obtrusive or too attention-grabbing, but just a little of yourself in the line.

As for the cabinet, I've never seen an 8×10 that didn't have two casters on the bottom and a metal bar (as a handle) at the top of the back of the cabinet. These cabinets are really heavy, so they're designed to be tipped back and rolled. The top and bottom corners of the back of the cab are cut at a 45° angle to recess the casters and bar when it's standing upright. The bar in particular makes them surprisingly manageable; I helped load one of these up and down the steps at a gig in St. Louis (the Hi Pointe) where the load-in door opened directly into two flights of stairs. It wasn't too bad.

Southern Heel
Jul 2, 2004

Has anyone migrated to a Katana Bass yet? I've got an Ampeg Rocket RB-112 and it's got a lovely sound. In front of it I've got this pedal chain:

Boss Tuner TU-3
Boss Bass Compressor BC-1X
Darkglass B3K
EHX Bass Big Muff
Boss Dimension DC-2w
Boss Analog Delay DM-3w delay
Boss RC-1 Looper

I rarely use the Looper, Darkglass or Analog delay with bass at all. I might replace one or both with a filter at some point - but generally am happy with just the tuner, compressor and dimension & muff.

I have to wonder though if it's just more efficient to sell these and the Ampeg and replace with a Katana Bass if it can handle that?

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Wowporn posted:


Less weirdly, I have been playing this stingray more this week than I have since I bought it and jesus christ my back is killing me, all my guitars are featherweight tonka toys in comparison how do you do this for a lifetime

Carefully

Real answer no idea I managed to gently caress up my back but good playing a gig last sat. Been hanging out on my floor since then. Back stretches seem to be helping tho

Bass life

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.

Wowporn posted:


Less weirdly, I have been playing this stingray more this week than I have since I bought it and jesus christ my back is killing me, all my guitars are featherweight tonka toys in comparison how do you do this for a lifetime

Somewhere, Ned Steinberger has an odd feeling of being justified.

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord

Wowporn posted:

I'm a huge shithead and I want to graft a P bass pickup into my Sub Ray4. My reasoning is I only want 2 basses so having my bass tuned to C have a neck pickup too will make me not want to get a separate P bass just for that sound, and if I go with guitar fetish I can get a no-solder required P bass pickup and pre-soldered drop in wiring harness for $50 total

Obviously the difficult part of that is there's no routing or controls for a neck pickup, so I would need to route out the spot for it (on the cheap SUB brand stingrays the pickup is not attached to the pickguard. I don't even have a pickguard on it because it didn't come with one, bought it for pocket change totally beat to poo poo and missing parts from a MusicGoRound) and create some kinda new control plate/plug in jack cause I am gonna avoid tryin to hook anything up to the preexisting active EQ having bridge humbucker. I also don't have a router or a garage so I will likely be just drilling a bunch of loving holes with a large drill bit and creating a monstrosity second jack/control plate near the lower horn out of a spare pickguard.

This all sounds like an awful idea but it is the cheapest way to get what I want and I am a fan of horrific DIY instruments so I am kind of dead set on it. Is there anything I should know before doing this stupid thing?

Less weirdly, I have been playing this stingray more this week than I have since I bought it and jesus christ my back is killing me, all my guitars are featherweight tonka toys in comparison how do you do this for a lifetime

Weights are hit and miss on the sterlings, you might have a 9-10 Lber. My ray35 is 11.4 lbs :stonk:

Turbinosamente
May 29, 2013

Lights on, Lights off
I thought the average for basses was 9ish pounds? But I cheat and sit to play all the time since I'm not a gigging musician.

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug
This is why I said gently caress it and just stuck with a Hoefner. No I’m not trying to be Paul gently caress you

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
My gretsch junior jet is way more manageable but the stingray feels like noticeably heavier than the less Paul I used to have which was I think 11ish pounds?? By the time I'm a senior I will have replaced all my instruments with Danelectros for the weight benefits, doesn't hurt that they look and sound dope

Solumin
Jan 11, 2013
Or get one of those playing stands like the Fearless Fliers do. If it's good enough for Joe Dart then it's good enough for me.

Schwza
Apr 28, 2008
I played a warwick corvette for years so I am well acquainted with heavy basses. I make all my own basses now and the ones I take to rehearsal and shows are in the 6-8 pound range. Sometimes comfort is king.

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

My Ibanez sr1600b clocks in at 8.5 with a strap, not bad!

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

I have an aerodyne jazz MIJ, a rickenbacker 4003, a dillion 4003 copy and a home made thunderbird.

Aerodyne is nice and light. 4003 is alright too. Dillion is kinda hefty for what it is.

Thunderbird is a 35" scale with the body proportions pumped to match, and it's made of coachwood. It's around 8kg/17lbs. Rings for days in C tuning.

Southern Heel
Jul 2, 2004

Looking at the Katana Bass Boss Studio I can set up a Compressor, Fuzz/Drive, Delay - it seems the missing functionality over a board is a tuner and the looper, if I understand correctly?

DrChu
May 14, 2002

Southern Heel posted:

Looking at the Katana Bass Boss Studio I can set up a Compressor, Fuzz/Drive, Delay - it seems the missing functionality over a board is a tuner and the looper, if I understand correctly?

Looking at your earlier post, if you've already got an amp you like the sound of and a pedal chain you're happy with, getting a Katana Bass would be a sideways move at best. The 110 model will be a good deal quieter, and the 210 model a little bit louder. If your intention is to play with other people, save up for more powerful amp/speaker cab set up and keep your pedals.

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

The all in one amps are great as practice amps but I wouldn't buy one for gigs unless it was specifically for taking on the road to Practice or for a very low volume band, acoustic or something.

I have a positive grid spark and while it's not the best for bass in terms of amps/fx available it sounds decent. Paired with the wireless foot switch I can rehearse set lists at home easily enough. Acts as a audio interface to my iPad for taking down ideas in garage band. Worked great to amp up a bass to jam with our acoustics in my friends yard too.

Southern Heel
Jul 2, 2004

In no way, am I thinking of gigging. The most I get to play with other people is with my partner who plays acoustic guitar and so volume is barely in issue. I do get your point though!

My pedals are probably worth about £450 and my base and he's now probably worth about £100. So in theory, I would free up £200 in capital, but end up with a smaller amp. Cheers!

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Wowporn posted:

My gretsch junior jet is way more manageable but the stingray feels like noticeably heavier than the less Paul I used to have which was I think 11ish pounds?? By the time I'm a senior I will have replaced all my instruments with Danelectros for the weight benefits, doesn't hurt that they look and sound dope

Maybe the insanely active nature of the stingray is the reason? It's a heavy piece of equipment anyway. Guitars are like bubbles

3 Action Economist
May 22, 2002

Educate. Agitate. Liberate.
Yeah I have a Les Paul that I always thought was heavy until I started playing bass.

Actuary X
Jul 20, 2007

Not really the best actuary in the world.
I thought my bass was heavy until I picked up somebody's banjo, drat thing is made out of metal

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.

Actuary X posted:

I thought my bass was heavy until I picked up somebody's banjo, drat thing is made out of metal

??? Is your bass tiny or their banjo huge? Most banjos are like a tambourine with a neck and strings.

Anyway, the PJ bass is so last financial year. How about the PPJ bass?



According to the description on Mercari, it only has a volume knob - the other three are decorative.

I'd love to know how it was wired.

Turbinosamente
May 29, 2013

Lights on, Lights off

Elissimpark posted:

??? Is your bass tiny or their banjo huge? Most banjos are like a tambourine with a neck and strings.

Closed back banjos are stupid heavy. I forget if there's more inside or it's all in the bowl of wood for said back.

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.

Turbinosamente posted:

Closed back banjos are stupid heavy. I forget if there's more inside or it's all in the bowl of wood for said back.

I had a closed back banjo way back in my 20's and it was super light. At least, much lighter than my bass.

e, quick google shows fancy heavy banjos have a brass resonating rim and a flange. And thus heavy. Huh.

Elissimpark fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Apr 30, 2023

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

Maybe theres a better thread for it, but is anyone else left handed in here?

I am the cursed kind of lefty where i have to play LH guitars. This was never really a problem outside of the limited ability to walk into a shop and play a guitar to see how it feels until I started using pedalboard.

unfortunately there is no such thing as LH effects pedals so my cable always ends up getting under my feet, wrapped around my leg, or just generally in the loving way.

I have tried running a long cable looped around behind my amp, or running a 6ft lead around the top of the pedal board to the right hand side into the pedal input. neither is really ideal as sometimes the former doesnt leave me much length to move around and the latter can get jammed up under my wah pedal.

Current front runner is to add the Rockboard Patchbay to my Rockboard and wire it up so the leads come out the top-left of the board.

That or just get a Boss WL-50.

Laserface fucked around with this message at 00:36 on May 1, 2023

Turbinosamente
May 29, 2013

Lights on, Lights off
I am left handed, but I got no solutions for your cable issue as I'm a home player and thus don't wander around with the instrument. Hell the cable goes across my lap to the amp that's to the far right as that was the only spot it fit in the room.

CaptainViolence
Apr 19, 2006

I'M GONNA GET YOU DUCK

Laserface posted:

unfortunately there is no such thing as LH effects pedals so my cable always ends up getting under my feet, wrapped around my leg, or just generally in the loving way.

oh my loving god is that seriously why pedals operate backwards from how my brain wants them to work holy poo poo

i have no answer to your question, but i am absolutely hoping someone does because i would kill for this. thank you for solving this mystery for me, i had no idea

Preggo My Eggo!
Jun 17, 2010
If I was left handed I would absolutely get a wireless thingy and see how well it works. From what I've seen on YouTube they work well and don't have latency issues, but I'm skeptical -- I draw lines on a computer for a living and can totally tell the difference between a wired USB mouse and any wireless system.

Another option is to build your pedalboard like a standard right-to-left board, just with the input on the far left corner and a long patch cable to bring that signal over to the other side of the board.

Rectal Placenta
Feb 25, 2011

Elissimpark posted:

According to the description on Mercari, it only has a volume knob - the other three are decorative.

I'd love to know how it was wired.

Everything in series.

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.
Yes, but what order?

Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine
Thinking of dropping up to $200 or so on a no-computer, grab-and-go headphone practice solution with some sort of aux in (wired or bluetooth). I'd like it to be a reasonably multipurpose investment that I can use for other things as I grow as a player without having to immediately buy more gear. I haven't ruled out something like a Mighty Plug Pro, which was recommended to me upthread, but it's kind of a one-trick pony (even if it's really good at that one trick).

Right now I'm using an iRig HD2 with an iPad or my laptop, but it's a lot of mucking around with cables and software and I'm always worried a wrong move will yank a cable and send the whole thing to the floor.

I've looked at mini amp heads like the TC BAM200/BH250, and GK MB200 and micro combos like the Phil Jones Micro 7, but forum wisdom seems to be against these as long-term investments. Used options currently on the market for something in a pedal format are the Zoom B3n ($150ish), Darkglass Element ($170ish), Quilter InterBass ($220), and the Zoom B1 Four ($80ish) as the economy solution. I'm leaning towards the B3n as the one with the most room to grow but curious if any of the other options are a secret slam dunk.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Preggo My Eggo! posted:

If I was left handed I would absolutely get a wireless thingy and see how well it works. From what I've seen on YouTube they work well and don't have latency issues, but I'm skeptical -- I draw lines on a computer for a living and can totally tell the difference between a wired USB mouse and any wireless system.

Another option is to build your pedalboard like a standard right-to-left board, just with the input on the far left corner and a long patch cable to bring that signal over to the other side of the board.

I was just talking to someone about this and he was saying you would need to spend at least 1200 bucks to find a good wireless system.

Also pretty sure I did build out a pedal system like you said, and it was entirely by accident.

DrChu
May 14, 2002

Discussion Quorum posted:

Thinking of dropping up to $200 or so on a no-computer, grab-and-go headphone practice solution with some sort of aux in (wired or bluetooth). I'd like it to be a reasonably multipurpose investment that I can use for other things as I grow as a player without having to immediately buy more gear. I haven't ruled out something like a Mighty Plug Pro, which was recommended to me upthread, but it's kind of a one-trick pony (even if it's really good at that one trick).

Right now I'm using an iRig HD2 with an iPad or my laptop, but it's a lot of mucking around with cables and software and I'm always worried a wrong move will yank a cable and send the whole thing to the floor.

I've looked at mini amp heads like the TC BAM200/BH250, and GK MB200 and micro combos like the Phil Jones Micro 7, but forum wisdom seems to be against these as long-term investments. Used options currently on the market for something in a pedal format are the Zoom B3n ($150ish), Darkglass Element ($170ish), Quilter InterBass ($220), and the Zoom B1 Four ($80ish) as the economy solution. I'm leaning towards the B3n as the one with the most room to grow but curious if any of the other options are a secret slam dunk.

Do not get the Element. I got one about two years ago for pretty much the exact same reasons as you've described, and it was nothing but frustration using it that I've basically given up on it. The worst part is that it actually sounds good, but the touch interface is terrible and its almost impossible to get a good balance between the line in volume and instrument volume.

I've been considering something like the DSM & Humboldt Bass Station - https://www.simplifieramp.com/bass-station-2 Its $300 MSRP so a little above your price range, but I've seen used ones go for closer to $200.

The Zoom B2 Four seems to be the new next-level replacement for the B3n - https://zoomcorp.com/en/us/multi-effects/bass-effects/b2-four/

There are also some options above your price range:

There's also the new Ampeg SGT-DI ($400) https://ampeg.com/products/pedals/sgt-di.html I'm going to need to wait for the "Ampeg sent us this for free so its the next greatest thing" Youtube hype to settle down to see if it has any staying power before I look more seriously into that.

GK also has a similar thing, the Plex ($500) https://www.gallien-krueger.com/plex-preamp. Since that costs more than what I paid for my 700RBII and 800RB combined I haven't been too keen on it.

The Origin Effects Bassrigs ($500) https://origineffects.com/product-category/bass/ were the Youtube darlings before the SGT-DI came along, but they lack the aux input you're looking for.

If you like multiple channels there's the ReVolt Bass Amp Sim ($400) https://www.two-notes.com/en/revolt-bass/

Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine

DrChu posted:

I've been considering something like the DSM & Humboldt Bass Station - https://www.simplifieramp.com/bass-station-2 Its $300 MSRP so a little above your price range, but I've seen used ones go for closer to $200.

:eyepop:

I knew there had to be something out there I hadn't yet heard of. "Sansamp Para DI plus basic cab sim and headphone amp, but not as much as buying all three separately" was what I had in my head as my perfect solution and this seems to be pretty much that? Effects are cool but it will be a while before I go down that rabbit hole.

The B2 Four is tempting too but that Simplifier might be the ticket.

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003
I absolutely love my Eleven Rack, but I can’t believe people are still hucking them for $300 USD.

I had a member here pick one up on the cheap a decade ago, load it with all his patches, and then mail it up to :canada: for less than the asking price nowadays.

tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014

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Am I???
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I have the B3n, which lacks some of the ammo simulator and IR tools of the new B2 FOUR, but it allows for more effects at once.

I've had Zoom pedals and used them ever since the original 506 came out, and as such things go, they are a great value. For an extremely portable and versatile effects rig that doubles as a headphone amp, they are really hard to beat.

Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine
I stumbled into a B1 Four for $65 shipped and for that price, gently caress it, what's the risk? Even if it sucks rear end it will be a long time before I'm good enough for it to matter.

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tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014

Am I a... bad person?
Am I???
Fun Shoe

Discussion Quorum posted:

I stumbled into a B1 Four for $65 shipped and for that price, gently caress it, what's the risk? Even if it sucks rear end it will be a long time before I'm good enough for it to matter.

I bought the B1Xon when I got back into playing several years ago, which is like the one you bought but older and with an expression pedal.

It's not a bad sounding little unit at all. The only real weakness is the inability to really turn individual effects in a patch on our off on the fly. There are some ways to work around that if it's an issue, but as far as the sound goes, most of the effects are surprisingly decent.

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