|
For proponents of the death penalty who are unshakeable, just point out that we have made incarceration worse than death anyway. A happy compromise.
|
#
?
May 2, 2023 03:48
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 20, 2024 09:33 |
|
|
I’ve sort of given up on trying to convince people that the death penalty is bad, most of them believe in it as a moral right and work their way backwards from that even though there’s not a single shred of evidence that the death penalty is beneficial and there’s books full of evidence that it’s expensive and doesn’t decrease crime and is discriminatory in action and often gets it wrong and and and and
|
|
#
?
May 2, 2023 03:54
|
|
|
Jaxyon posted:It does sound like "vote!" is a sound strategy though, possibly even "vote blue no matter who" We did! You want me to vote now? For what?
|
|
#
?
May 2, 2023 15:56
|
|
|
DC Murderverse posted:I’ve sort of given up on trying to convince people that the death penalty is bad, most of them believe in it as a moral right and work their way backwards from that even though there’s not a single shred of evidence that the death penalty is beneficial and there’s books full of evidence that it’s expensive and doesn’t decrease crime and is discriminatory in action and often gets it wrong and and and and God smites people left and right in the Bible. Just ignore that thou shall not kill part.
|
|
#
?
May 2, 2023 21:23
|
|
|
It's always fun to point out the parts of the Bible where abortion is mentioned. Think your wife was unfaithful? Make her drink this and if she was she'll go barren (and lose any pregnancy she has). Caused a pregnant woman to miscarry? Pay a fine. People who base their lives around mythology are insane and the level of religious extremism infesting the US's judicial system is dire.
|
|
#
?
May 2, 2023 21:47
|
|
|
VitalSigns posted:We did! You want me to vote now? For what? Apparently so the Dems don't lose a state SC and get gerrymandered out of existence
|
|
#
?
May 2, 2023 21:55
|
|
|
New documents show how Sandra Day O’Connor helped George W. Bush win the 2000 electionquote:“Going home after a long day,” Scalia wrote to fellow justices when it was all over on December 12, “I cannot help but observe that those of my colleagues who were protesting so vigorously that the Court’s judgment today will do it irreparable harm have spared no pains – in a veritable blizzard of separate dissents – to assist that result. Even to the point of footnote 4 in Ruth’s offering (I call it the Al Sharpton footnote), alleging on the basis of press reports ‘obstacles to voting disproportionately encountered by black voters.’” https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/02/politics/bush-gore-oconnor-supreme-court-2000/index.html
|
|
#
?
May 3, 2023 16:36
|
|
|
The fact that multiple GOP operatives involved in Bush v. Gore now sit on the SCOTUS is reason enough that the court should be ignored in its entirety, to say nothing of the ruling itself and the conservative majority's judicial coup on behalf of their party. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
|
|
#
?
May 3, 2023 17:01
|
|
|
Evil Fluffy posted:The fact that multiple GOP operatives involved in Bush v. Gore now sit on the SCOTUS is reason enough that the court should be ignored in its entirety, to say nothing of the ruling itself and the conservative majority's judicial coup on behalf of their party. The only power the Supreme Court, really any court, has is the power given to it by the executive branch. Even Abraham Lincoln knew this and acted accordingly. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
|
|
#
?
May 3, 2023 18:01
|
|
|
virtualboyCOLOR posted:The only power the Supreme Court, really any court, has is the power given to it by the executive branch. Even Abraham Lincoln knew this and acted accordingly. Yeah and if the fringe on the flag is wrong it's not an admiralty court and you don't have to listen to them at all!!! Do you intend this to be an explicit appeal to fascism? or did it sound like something else in your head when you wrote it? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
|
|
#
?
May 3, 2023 21:20
|
|
|
Ah, President Lincoln. The guy who suspended a whole raft of civil rights because war was declared. Let's emulate him.
|
|
#
?
May 3, 2023 21:33
|
|
|
Abraham Lincoln is a fascist now Can't get enough of these takes. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
|
|
#
?
May 3, 2023 21:46
|
|
|
Actually I guess that's not too far off from what contemporary Democrats said about him too, except that they didn't have the word fascist yet so they used the 19th century equivalents: tyrant, czar, etc
|
|
#
?
May 3, 2023 21:50
|
|
|
I'll settle with 'guy who suspended habeus corpus in Maryland and let his generals toss people into jail for being an annoyance and protesting the war'. That's when Lincoln told the Supreme Court he didn't care what they said, he was gonna go with his gut. You can call it whatever.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2023 05:14
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/JustinElliott/status/1654063623147225089?t=L5-yTOLz0eESjmDBKf6rZg&s=19
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2023 11:44
|
|
|
I am loving the drip drip drip of news of SCOTUS corruption. Keeps it in the collective conscious and exposes bullshit excuses with successive reveals. Do you think there’s a central source that’s leaking things purposefully and slowly?
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2023 14:35
|
|
|
HannibalBarca posted:https://twitter.com/JustinElliott/status/1654063623147225089?t=L5-yTOLz0eESjmDBKf6rZg&s=19 Big deal. Thomas's kid isn't part of the government. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2023 14:47
|
|
|
We can use the heat generated from Thurgood Marshall's spinning corpse to power the eastern seaboard for years to come.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2023 14:52
|
|
|
killer_robot posted:I'll settle with 'guy who suspended habeus corpus in Maryland and let his generals toss people into jail for being an annoyance and protesting the war'. That's when Lincoln told the Supreme Court he didn't care what they said, he was gonna go with his gut. You can call it whatever. They weren't protesting the war, they were conspiring to disrupt troop movements to reinforce DC. By blowing up a railway bridge. Then, when they got arrested, they filed a writ of habeas corpus in a circuit headed by the guy who wrote the Dred Scott ruling. Who was also the chief justice so there was no meaningful way to appeal it. Blue Footed Booby fucked around with this message at 15:04 on May 4, 2023 |
|
#
?
May 4, 2023 15:02
|
|
|
It rules his wife gets six figure do-nothing jobs and they still don't pay for anything big or small. https://twitter.com/ddayen/status/1654129967226290179?s=20
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2023 15:28
|
|
|
If there was a corruption statue put on the books that roped every justice on the SCOTUS, you could defacto roll full judiciary reform. Just saying. Would be a fun way to get there.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2023 16:16
|
|
|
BlueBlazer posted:If there was a corruption statue put on the books that roped every justice on the SCOTUS, you could defacto roll full judiciary reform. The SCOTUS would strike it down (or attempt to) in a heartbeat given their unified stance of "we don't need oversight" lately. While they have no means to actually enforce such a ruling and issuing one would, ideally, cause the DoJ do go over every single aspect of their lives with a fine toothed comb, they'd still do it regardless of the fallout it'd cause. Maybe jailing them and tossing them in genpop in a for-profit privately run prison for a few years would cause them to reconsider some of their more idiotic stances on the criminal justice system as well. Evil Fluffy fucked around with this message at 16:28 on May 4, 2023 |
|
#
?
May 4, 2023 16:26
|
|
|
Kicking Thomas out is a crapshoot because unless Feinstein's age hits an overflow bug and she loops back around to young, Dems can't confirm a replacement until at least 2025 if they even win the elections.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2023 16:28
|
|
|
VitalSigns posted:Kicking Thomas out is a crapshoot because unless Feinstein's age hits an overflow bug and she loops back around to young, Dems can't confirm a replacement until at least 2025 if they even win the elections. For a SCOTUS confirmation, they'd Weekend at Bernie's her (or  her) in a second.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2023 16:41
|
|
|
Blue Footed Booby posted:They weren't protesting the war, they were conspiring to disrupt troop movements to reinforce DC. By blowing up a railway bridge. Then, when they got arrested, they filed a writ of habeas corpus in a circuit headed by the guy who wrote the Dred Scott ruling. Who was also the chief justice so there was no meaningful way to appeal it. So does that mean there's... precedent for this situation?
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2023 16:44
|
|
|
Kalman posted:For a SCOTUS confirmation, they'd Weekend at Bernie's her (or Even if she died it wouldn't help because Republicans have already vowed to filibuster any replacement on the judiciary committee, and while Democrats could nuke the filibuster for committee assignments or move nominations forward with a discharge petition they haven't so far because  (even though filibustering committee assignments is a naked partisan power grab which isn't decorous at all, but they go low we go high I guess)They might be able to Weekend at Bernie's her although they'd have to do it for multiple days: committee vote, and the floor vote
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2023 17:12
|
|
|
AvesPKS posted:So does that mean there's... precedent for this situation? Considering the situation there was "we are actively waging a civil war" and "that writ of habeus corpus was issued by a judge in rebel territory", and the Constitution explicitly says "unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it" but Taney apparently missed that bit, and this was back in the days when Congress didn't convene for months at a time and after reconvening after that ruling Congress indemnified Lincoln and his administration for suspending habeus corpus while they were out of session, and Congress eventually explicitly gave him the power to temporarily suspend it during the war, I don't think the two are actually very comparable Fuschia tude fucked around with this message at 19:11 on May 4, 2023 |
|
#
?
May 4, 2023 19:06
|
|
|
VitalSigns posted:Even if she died it wouldn't help because Republicans have already vowed to filibuster any replacement on the judiciary committee, and while Democrats could nuke the filibuster for committee assignments or move nominations forward with a discharge petition they haven't so far because They'd only have to WAB her for the committee vote, the floor vote they'd likely (loving Sinema, making me add that word) be able to get a 50-49 win even without her. In terms of Senate procedure, I think the Dems can't nuke the filibuster for committee assignments given the current posture; they'd have to nuke the filibuster for removals from committees instead. (They're distinct things, parliamentarily speaking.) I think that'd probably be a bad thing, given recent expulsions in other arenas by Rs? That said, if Feinstein died, and Rs actually did block a permanent assignment for her replacement (note that they have NOT said they would do that, the vows are all about blocking Feinstein's removal and temporary replacement), I'm reasonably confident that Dems would nuke the filibuster for that. (Also, discharge petitions in the Senate are filibusterable, so that wouldn't actually move anything forward; they could just .)
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2023 19:18
|
|
|
So...this is good? https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1654233950431113216?t=N_7YwjHQlcVY0OP4fUDugA&s=19
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2023 23:11
|
|
|
lmao come onquote:In January 2012, Leo instructed the GOP pollster Kellyanne Conway to bill a nonprofit group called the Judicial Education Project and use that money to pay Virginia “Ginni” Thomas, the documents show. The same year, the Judicial Education Project filed a brief to the Supreme Court in a landmark voting rights case. https://t.co/ZyAU68oKGc Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 00:40 on May 5, 2023 |
|
#
?
May 5, 2023 00:36
|
|
|
Leo never said it was for a bribe so it's legal.
|
|
#
?
May 5, 2023 00:43
|
|
|
Nuevo posted:So...this is good? Good: it might kill a case that I was scared of. Bad: North Carolina is hosed anyway because they voted for the wrong judges.
|
|
#
?
May 5, 2023 00:53
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1654265190052159489quote:Conservative judicial activist Leonard Leo arranged for the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas to be paid tens of thousands of dollars for consulting work just over a decade ago, specifying that her name be left off billing paperwork, according to documents reviewed by The Washington Post.
|
|
#
?
May 5, 2023 01:00
|
|
|
Now this, this I'm really curious about the sourcing on. The original line of scandal from Thomas wasn't a timed leak because it emerged from the new disclosure rules, but what's come subsequently appears likely to be so.
|
|
#
?
May 5, 2023 01:01
|
|
|
I assume all of the major news orgs started digging into the SCOTUS justices' finances more after ProPublica started to post their big findings. There's clearly a lot there but nobody's really been looking.
|
|
#
?
May 5, 2023 01:52
|
|
|
Countdown until a conservative justice writes an editorial about how all this coverage is causing people to lose faith in the court
|
|
#
?
May 5, 2023 05:39
|
|
|
Grip it and rip it posted:Countdown until a conservative justice writes an editorial about how all this coverage is causing people to lose faith in the court Alito has you covered, baw. https://jezebel.com/sam-alito-says-criticism-of-supreme-court-is-unfair-pr-1850388904
|
|
#
?
May 5, 2023 11:22
|
|
|
Leonardo Leonardo?? 
|
|
#
?
May 5, 2023 12:09
|
|
|
Dameius posted:Leo never said it was for a bribe so it's legal. And anyway, Virginia Thomas is not in the government Can't be a bribe if the person collecting it isn't in the government
|
|
#
?
May 5, 2023 12:25
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 20, 2024 09:33 |
|
|
mobby_6kl posted:Leonardo Leonardo?? Deep cut but 
|
|
#
?
May 5, 2023 13:29
|
|