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Three Olives posted:I spent a fair amount of time in Canada growing up and I always thought it was so funny how there were like famous artists, celebrities and TV shows that Americans just, didn't know existed. There were crossovers of course and HGTV and Food Network launched with a shitload of Canadian content, it was just funny how just over the border there were these like legit famous Canadians that people just didn't know about. Canadians created Paw Patrol and for that I am eternally spiteful.
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canadians also created caillou
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Three Olives posted:I spent a fair amount of time in Canada growing up and I always thought it was so funny how there were like famous artists, celebrities and TV shows that Americans just, didn't know existed. There were crossovers of course and HGTV and Food Network launched with a shitload of Canadian content, it was just funny how just over the border there were these like legit famous Canadians that people just didn't know about. Everyone knows Justin Bieber and Nickelback, but did Canada ever officially apologized for them?
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May 5, 2023 08:51
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mobby_6kl posted:Everyone knows Justin Bieber and Nickelback, but did Canada ever officially apologized for them? we gave you drake and the weeknd at least? sum 41 was our fault too though.
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May 5, 2023 10:44
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Brian Adams
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gradenko_2000 posted:Brian Adams That’s Bryan Adams to you, mister
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May 5, 2023 11:18
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We gave y’all Rush, we don’t have to apologize for poo poo 
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Canada is so worthless that even the magnetic North Pole has left them.
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May 5, 2023 15:29
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YFR20MmvpM is it weird i have some immediate doubts about the accuracy of their testing results? not for any specific reason like i care about specific cooling solutions, i just wonder if their big new testing setup is that well constructed or precise based on.....how slapdash everything at LMG is i don't have these same doubts about GN
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May 5, 2023 15:38
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GN also really likes the peerless assassin though. If anything, it's closer to the D15 in their testing than in LMG's. My biggest issue with that video is the complete lack of noise testing. I know he mentioned they want to do noise normalized results eventually too, but not mentioning noise at all completely glosses over a large part of the reason why people buy aftermarket CPU coolers.
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May 5, 2023 15:41
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as someone who'd done a pure 140mm case and had to get a rear 120mm for my new case, it kinda blew my mind how silent 140mm fans can be compared to 120 i think the lack of talk about noise normalization also falls into the same issue i have with conversations about cooling where we don't talk about the specific fan curves people set up. a lot of people end up going aio because it's less fidgeting with that kind of stuff with temps taking much longer to ramp up and down
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I think with fans and coolers you can't test for custom fan curves outside normalised testing, because most people are just going to leave it on default. So test how good those defaults are.
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kliras posted:as someone who'd done a pure 140mm case and had to get a rear 120mm for my new case, it kinda blew my mind how silent 140mm fans can be compared to 120 Larger fans are generally perceived as quieter even at the same dB due to having a lower pitch. Like if you set up one PC with all 140s and one with 120s and tweak them so they are exactly the same in an acoustic chamber, then put them in a room, the 140 will sound quieter. One is that a lower pitch is less noticeable / annoying. But second is that higher pitch sound tends to reflect off smooth hard surfaces better, so the back side of your PC pointed at a wall will bounce noise out to you. kliras posted:i think the lack of talk about noise normalization also falls into the same issue i have with conversations about cooling where we don't talk about the specific fan curves people set up. a lot of people end up going aio because it's less fidgeting with that kind of stuff with temps taking much longer to ramp up and down The fact that every major mobo maker has bios fan control with hysteresis, but they all ship with it set to zero so fans instantly ramp up and down in a very annoying way is IMO a drat shame. Even a stock cooler is often more annoying because of the uneven noise than the pure loudness. I dunno, I think noise testing is really tough in general. Clearly some type of normalization is really important, even if you're not using a professional acoustic chamber. LTT just went and said positive things about a loving 120mm radiator AIO in 2023, because no noise testing. What GN does is much better, but even GN doesn't test everything and has a hole or two in their results. (The big one being idle noise in case reviews, which TBF they are aware of and is really hard to test. But it's the one thing that a non-mesh case is potentially superior for.)
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Klyith posted:The fact that every major mobo maker has bios fan control with hysteresis, but they all ship with it set to zero so fans instantly ramp up and down in a very annoying way is IMO a drat shame. Even a stock cooler is often more annoying because of the uneven noise than the pure loudness. I think I'll die of old age before I see a BIOS that has a fan scheme as flexible and bug-free as FanControl
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Linus: You're paying too much for a CPU cooler. Also Linus: Buy a 1000W PSU. roomtwofifteen posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YFR20MmvpM
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:Considering Linus has a long history of both major and minor incompetence, it's not surprising you have a hard time trusting the data they're claiming.
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kliras posted:i don't know what part of the video it refers to, but they apparently also screwed up some basic maths in it? Linus mentioned that the added cost of the D15 is "only about 2.3 percent of the total price" of their example high-end PC build. This is basically correct, but when showing the math, the video editor forgot to deduct the cost of the Peerless Assassin from the cost of the D15. So they showed 109.95/2603.81 = 2.6% instead of (109.95-42.90)/2603.81 = 2.6% (there was a small price change in the peerless assassin). It was just a video editing error, so the math in the script was still correct.
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May 5, 2023 18:27
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kliras posted:i don't know what part of the video it refers to, but they apparently also screwed up some basic maths in it? EDIT: Oh, Dr. Video Games 0031 posted with an explanation that gives it context.
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CBD Corndog posted:We gave y’all Rush, we don’t have to apologize for poo poo What about the Rush fans!?
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May 5, 2023 22:31
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mobby_6kl posted:What about the Rush fans!? Probably mostly american though
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With noctua you are paying for 2 things. 1. Being quiet 2. Staying quiet 1 is pretty easy, but its that second part that youtube testing out of the box wont notice unfortunately.
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May 9, 2023 01:52
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I recently pulled a noctura fan from my case that i think has been in service 24/7 since 2012. it was fine. the only issue with it is the new case was all 140mm fans and my little 120mm fan no longer has a place in the 140mm world
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May 9, 2023 03:17
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I recently bought a couple Noctua fans and they weren't even that expensive. Just a couple bucks more than the cheap fans.
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May 9, 2023 03:54
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With noctua you are paying for 2 things. 1. Brown 2. Beige
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May 9, 2023 04:01
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Not all of noctua's fans are the premium stuff. They have some cheaper stuff too, though if you're talking in the $10 range, then Arctic still reigns supreme there. Their new P12 Max fans seem good, though I've seen multiple people report inconsistent bearing noise between multiple fans, with some of their fans being kind of annoying. So I guess you get what you pay for. Noctua offers a very consistent experience, and their products survive years of abuse.
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I never really thought of noctua as that much more expensive and having something that Just Works for at least the life of one PC (ie 2-3 years, although I have one that is 8+ years and still going strong) is well worth the minor cost difference imo.
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It’s really not that minor for many people.
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Pretty much any fan will last 2-3 years even running 24/7. I'm sure Noctua fans are better but it's hard to say by how much without doing an A/B test myself and I could never be bothered.
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I bought a rad Noctua hoodie a while back It's incredibly warm, and easily the highest quality clothing I've seen. Thankfully they have dropped the terrible writing on the rear. 10/10 will probably buy the other colour next year.
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speaking of noctua https://twitter.com/Noctua_at/status/1655858851160236032 i like that they keep it simple
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Okay, but no matter how much we praise them for building fans that last a decade, do Not buy a $35 fan hub lmao.
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Don't miss the part where they didn't put a cover on the top of it because that would obscure the status LEDs that you will definitely be looking at all the time.
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Exposed power pins are always an excellent design choice
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Okay, but no matter how much we praise them for building fans that last a decade, do Not buy a $35 fan hub lmao.
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May 9, 2023 13:56
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The case that I bought in 2016 and still use came with a 6 channel fan hub that looks pretty much exactly like that
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one of the dumbest experiences i've had with a case was where be quiet would have a proper fan hub for their tempered "pro" cases and some useless nerfed version if you didn't feel like peering into your rgb carousel
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Rubellavator posted:The case that I bought in 2016 and still use came with a 6 channel fan hub that looks pretty much exactly like that The back of the thing is actually somewhat complicated:  But I still have no idea who actually asked for any of this.
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my more or less entry level enthusiast overclocking mobo has four fan headers on it and seems to have no problem driving any sort of combination of fans and rgb silliness. so you do wonder who that product is for
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Wasn't it an extremely lovely fan hub PCB (voltage traces running underneath screw heads) that was a fire hazard on those NZXT cases?
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power crystals posted:The back of the thing is actually somewhat complicated: flip it the other way and it's You vs the guy she told you not to worry about
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