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soooo... game good? I've been waiting for 1.0, but impressions I've seen have been pretty mixed
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victrix posted:soooo... game good? Its not DD1. Its like a spin-off more than a direct sequel. So, opinions will be varied. The combat is fundamentally the same with some improvements. Everything else is different. Its going to be divisive.
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well for my part, I loved the aesthetic of DD, liked the combat, disliked the inventory/party fiddling and really disliked the total length of the game
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victrix posted:well for my part, I loved the aesthetic of DD, liked the combat, disliked the inventory/party fiddling and really disliked the total length of the game Buddy you gonna love this game. its based on individual "runs" with 1 party and they take about 4 hours. Less if you die! temple fucked around with this message at 15:06 on Apr 2, 2023 |
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temple posted:Its not DD1. Its like a spin-off more than a direct sequel. So, opinions will be varied. The combat is fundamentally the same with some improvements. Everything else is different. Its going to be divisive. One thing I keep bringing up is that having the game been Darkest Dungeon v2.0 would feel more like an expensive DLC than a sequel. People think that's what they wanted all along, but I have a sneaking suspicion that if that monkey paw finger curled people would be dissatisfied that the unpleasant aspects of DD1 got carried forward. Having the game heavily diverge from the first is definitely a risk but it is a risk I welcome from Red Hook. And in a way, it often reminds me of the Corpse Controversy-in DD1 early access they added corpses which significantly changed battles. People were so married to the metagame without them that they found any divergence to it unacceptable. There was compromise in making it an option you can toggle but by and large most of the detractors forgot about it soon enough. I'm probably one of the bigger defenders of DD2 here but I'll admit that personally I was hoping for something halfway between the first and last game; that the "Oregon Trail" part was the entire "Hamlet" heading to the mountain and setting up camp along the way. Maybe they were going for something like that and feared it would be a compromise that would please no one. The Altar of Hope is also a degree of metaprogression that inches closer to the Hamlet. You can spend candles to give heroes Memories which grant buffs and let the hero carry over to the next chapter. I also strongly suspect they will likely have a DLC that will be Hamlet 2.0 and that many detractors will be crawling back now that they have what they want.
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Darkest dungeon 1 is a tactical turn based combatant manager game, whereas darkest dungeon 2 is a turn based roguelite with (relatively speaking, unless you mess up) a party composition element, in my opinion.
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Apr 2, 2023 18:07
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I just started playing Darkest Dungeon 1, and I'm very much enjoying it so far. I'm on Week 7, and I just recruited a Bloodthirsty Leper with Nymphomania as his positive quirk. Love it.
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Apr 2, 2023 22:46
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Been trying a chaplain vestal in rank 2. Its interesting, can't use consecrations and she needs mastery. But its a tricky character for enemies to deal with. Occultist needs help. Panfilo posted:One thing I keep bringing up is that having the game been Darkest Dungeon v2.0 would feel more like an expensive DLC than a sequel. People think that's what they wanted all along, but I have a sneaking suspicion that if that monkey paw finger curled people would be dissatisfied that the unpleasant aspects of DD1 got carried forward. Having the game heavily diverge from the first is definitely a risk but it is a risk I welcome from Red Hook. And in a way, it often reminds me of the Corpse Controversy-in DD1 early access they added corpses which significantly changed battles. People were so married to the metagame without them that they found any divergence to it unacceptable. There was compromise in making it an option you can toggle but by and large most of the detractors forgot about it soon enough.
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Darkest Dungeon 1 is one of my favourite video games of all time. DD2 is not. But if changing the formula means that some other players will enjoy this game as much as I love the first, I'm alright with that. The relationship system is a cool upgrade over DD1 though, and my dream would be a game like DD1 with the DD2 relationship system from a couple months ago. And more varied dialogue.
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Oh yeah and I killed a region 1 (technically 2) shambler with an occultist, runaway, rank 2 vestal, and hellion. 3rd act. Its doable. IDK but shambler seems easier in DD2.
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temple posted:Been trying a chaplain vestal in rank 2. Its interesting, can't use consecrations and she needs mastery. But its a tricky character for enemies to deal with. Chaplain is pretty fun. I got a Vestal with Breacher and took Chaplain path and it meshes so well - you start with 2 taunt tokens at the beginning of the fight, and when you get 3 tokens on her she can pop mantra for a self heal+stress heal on her and the person she's guarding, it's like Bolster on steroids. I do think they need to bring occultist in line with Vestal though. The advantage Vestal has is that her token effects are more granular and she's more consistent in building them up. Occultist gets no immediate benefit from having 3 tokens and can have fights where you are stuck with 1 token and burn procs for zero benefit. He also has 3 skills that only work with 2 power tokens. You have all these skills competing for power tokens A double stun which sounds beefy on paper but more viable early in the fight where you're less likely to have 2 power at the moment, often a single target nuke is a better option to kill a dangerous target outright. A pull+stun that feels rather situational because most backliners are fragile enough to not need a stun to deal with them and many tough enemies are more dangerous in front ranks so the only edge case is maybe Ritualist+seeing sphere landing it on a big enemy to stun+combo+debuff them. An auto crit heal that is still hamstrung by its random nature resulting in lulzy crit heals for 2hp sometimes but still often the best option if you are blinded and have a valid target to heal-if an ally is on deaths door it's certainly better than nothing in the moment. A single target nuke that feels like the best option in many cases, having it bypass block and leave a combo token is icing on the cake. I use this most of the time. A debuff that can proc random DoT on hits if it lands, this one is tough to use effectively because again you need it out early in the fight, you need a lot of dot procs to trigger while it's active and you gotta hope it doesn't get resisted. An aoe+Bleed that is OK and kind of lulzy with Aspirant, ok with some of the better on hit effect trinkets.
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Yeah, you broke down his moves well. Occultist has negative economy but no pay-off. The tentacle moves can lose targets to hit. The curses can be resisted. The unchecked power moves require set up and can debuff him. So, he's only good in spite of his drawbacks. If resisted curses gave an uncheck power token and his heal had its threshold raised, he'd be at least serviceable.
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https://twitter.com/DarkestDungeon/status/1648371278602989569 You already know
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The Zombie Guy posted:I just started playing Darkest Dungeon 1, and I'm very much enjoying it so far. I'm on Week 7, and I just recruited a Bloodthirsty Leper with Nymphomania as his positive quirk. Leper owns bones. Buff the hell out of him and he'll one shot almost everything.
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The new character is a cool twist blight themed zombie flagellant. Comes with special miniboss that pretty cool looking too. article
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temple posted:The new character is a cool twist blight themed zombie flagellant. Comes with special miniboss that pretty cool looking too. article
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The flagellant is the one character I wanted to see animated the most. Super stoked for this
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Didn't expect the Flagellant to come back, really love how they evolved his character into zombified freak. Love the new abilities like the Fester move that is basically corpse explosion, healing others, just tanking poo poo and inflicting/absorbing status debuffs. That unique miniboss he has is just hardcore as gently caress, as well. I still reallllly wish Bounty Hunter wasn't relegated to such a rare hire, though. But, I can appreciate how they put one character as a "super" hero that can only get recruited in the midst of a run; it's a unique, fun enough idea that I still appreciate it. BH was my fave in DD1 though so I'm just salty he's a "limited" pick. Really curious to try out the new stuff in a fresh run, hopefully with some other tuning done--with the last few patches they had made a few enemies much more obnoxious so I am hoping some of them were balanced out a smidge.
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Black Reliquary is mechanically very good. The horny guy has thus far been more restrained than I expected. I know some of the models have been toned way down over the course of development, so I guess somebody's keeping an eye on them. Definitely some exceptions though. Most of the art is nonhorny and the nonhorn is great. TBH even most of the "okay, bro, where's your other hand" character designs at least have substance and implied story going on. But honestly I'd have a lot less patience for this if the mechanics and general inventiveness weren't so good, and the presence of the occasional hot dude helps too. I just wish it was possible to talk about this mod without a preamble about tits.
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Hows the difficulty and slog? Seems like it might be designed for people who have already fully internalized DD and want a challenge.
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That's exactly who it's for. As for slog, if you're like me and you refuse to take risks, it's very sloggy, and it'll always be sloggier than radiant mode. ShuffleFM seems to be fighting and beating veteran bosses within a few hours of playing though, so maybe it's much better if you're not a coward and already know everything.
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I'm waiting for them to reach a 1.0 so I can go into the files and push down all of the enemy resistances by at least 20%. The story and theming is mostly fun and cool, but the economy is brutal -- think 'running low light antiquarian' in DD1, but without the Bank district to keep you even on cash. Also, they really expect you to be getting diseased constantly. Also also, the "Prep Round" is sort of balanced against the heroes -- enemies will usually use normal attacks and if they swing right, hey, that's a guy on death's door without the ability to properly counterplay (since you can't stun on Prep Round). If more enemies had prep round skills, that would be better. And thirdly, most of the mod classes are unexciting. Veiled is bad, Dredge is kind of a self-hurting Abomination, and Judicator is just fine (a take on Bounty Hunter but interacting with the new Expiation and Amberblight Mark effects). It's a shame, there's a lot of mod classes that'd fit in great, but I guess that disrupts the vision. AND unless you enable the Hexer class, the Vestal is still the only game in town for AOE healing. (And and and even if you do, the Hexer's aoe heal is once per battle and you have to attack at least twice before you're allowed to use it. why) SPurple should probably tone things down a hair, though. At least it's equal opportunity in the sexualization. Your Uncle Dracula fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Apr 20, 2023 |
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Ragnar34 posted:Black Reliquary is mechanically very good. The horny guy has thus far been more restrained than I expected. I know some of the models have been toned way down over the course of development, so I guess somebody's keeping an eye on them. Definitely some exceptions though. Well, if they've managed to bonk that guy into an appropriate horny community service, I might be interested in BR.
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If you've got DD1 and the requisite DLC's, there's no reason not to check out BR. Overall I've been having fun with it, plus I appreciate such a big and well-polished overhaul could come out for this game. The Cavern's battle theme is one of the best tracks in the entire series (for people who haven't played, this is the music for fighting against an Eldritch Insect Swarm): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACt4U3EapKI
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I cooled on BR after I realized the release on Steam doesn't mean the game is beatable atm. Will revisit once 1.0 comes out for sure though.
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ok maybe a dumb question but what the hell is the story of dd2? I don't get what's going on after the ending of 1 (noting I haven't played 2 yet, just checked out some cursory videos while waiting for full release)
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victrix posted:ok maybe a dumb question but mountain bad
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victrix posted:ok maybe a dumb question but temple fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Apr 24, 2023 |
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 I thought everything was turbofucked period and this was just some alternate take on the same concept Anyway, is there some jumbo day 1 patch coming or is it safe to play now in advance and my progress will just carry over to whatever the endgame is?
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temple posted:By slaying the secret of the darkest dungeon, the heroes unsettled the world. Society is collapsing and the heroes hope to find a solution by confronting what's at the mountain or at least absolution for creating the chaos. Specifically, the person you're playing as was a friend/ally/colleague of the Ancestor from the first game it seems, who joined in his studies but separated later on.
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That's the Academic. You're just his friend. And it's not clear that killing the thing at the bottom of the Darkest Dungeon is directly linked to all this. "The predictions were all true." This would have happened one way or the other.
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I'm only half joking when I say that I thought it was all a metaphor for trauma. I haven't really played since EA started though, I haven't seen past Act 1 yet.
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Ainsley McTree posted:I'm only half joking when I say that I thought it was all a metaphor for trauma. I haven't really played since EA started though, I haven't seen past Act 1 yet. Yeah, my cannon is the road is just metaphor for the descent into madness of your crew in the immediate aftermath of DD1’s ending.
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victrix posted:
I'm pretty sure there's going to be a big patch and at the very least, a new character. I may have misread but I think they're in the middle of reworking the character classes. Most of the patches in early access make you restart your run but save your overall progress.
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This releases on Steam in 20 minutes. Cool!
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I haven’t followed the EA saga really, other than eyeballing a couple streams when it first came out there. I bounced off the first game because of the length/grind of it, but this seems far more up my street. Have they mentioned any console release plans down the line?
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25% discount for DD1 owners on steam: https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/31810/Darkest_Dungeon_The_Iron_Crown/ for reference: I bought DD2 on EGS for $17 with a $10 coupon when early access launched in 2021 so I'm gonna wait for a sale. There's a one time EGS -> Steam save file transfer apparently according to their discord Gyoru fucked around with this message at 17:12 on May 8, 2023 |
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