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Here's a good Twitter thread for smart people who know lots about football and have good opinions: https://twitter.com/CowboysStats/status/1655702300743041025?t=Wzuc5uZJVFZW5RvaKjz6kA&s=19
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blarzgh posted:Here's a good Twitter thread for smart people who know lots about football and have good opinions: thanks for the graph from 2019
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Diqnol posted:thanks for the graph from 2019 "Read the full conversation on Twitter" and you will find that by comparing Daks results on third down across several seasons, using the metrics from the 2019 study, that, in correlation with a spike in interceptions in 2022 on third down, there's also a steep fall off in receiver separation and yards after the catch, on 3rd down. And, despite the added interceptions, Dak still got top of the league results on third down overall.
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May 9, 2023 01:35
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i dunno man, i was just digging through some of the latest metrics and
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Toaster Beef posted:i dunno man, i was just digging through some of the latest metrics and Solid research, but I believe it should be “poo” and “poo poo”.
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i am not a man of science
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blarzgh posted:"Read the full conversation on Twitter" and you will find that by comparing Daks results on third down across several seasons, using the metrics from the 2019 study, that, in correlation with a spike in interceptions in 2022 on third down, there's also a steep fall off in receiver separation and yards after the catch, on 3rd down. Did you know he's 2-4 in the playoffs? Did you know that since entering the NFL in 2016, Dak Prescott is 22-25 against teams that finished the season with a winning record? Here's a stat from 2020 since you want to go back to there: quote:Last season, Dak Prescott and the Cowboys were 1-6 against playoff teams and 7-2 against non-playoff teams.
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May 9, 2023 02:47
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can't figure out why people are that jealous of dak
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May 9, 2023 03:03
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jalen hurts is cool as gently caress and i love that i see a lot of twitter accounts in sports tweets that have hiim as their pfp doing  from that kickoff game he threw that bomb for a td to show the haters what was coming
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Toaster Beef posted:i dunno man, i was just digging through some of the latest metrics and I feel like you're just copying my graphs now
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May 9, 2023 03:10
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Toaster Beef posted:i dunno man, i was just digging through some of the latest metrics and Been drawing ten for ten years and it is infuriating how ill never even reach your level
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May 9, 2023 06:05
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blarzgh posted:
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May 9, 2023 10:01
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I'm pretty sure saying that your qb still plays the same despite big spike in interceptions means he's just not good and his performance is thusly irrelevant to game outcomes.
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May 9, 2023 11:15
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Cavauro posted:can't figure out why people are that jealous of dak Because they don't like that Dallas, despite being run by a horny old lich who treats his team like a therapy pillow for his childish insecurities, have lucked into two franchise QBs in the last 10 years
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May 9, 2023 13:01
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Now if only they could get the "get at least one ring" part 2 of the other 3 teams immediately around them took care of in that timespan, they would be unstoppable
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May 9, 2023 13:07
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Diqnol posted:Did you know he's 2-4 in the playoffs? "X - X against playoff teams/ teams are the winning record" is a made up stat, It means only one thing: You either are or you are not Tom Brady who is the only quarterback that has significantly more wins against teams have finished with > .500 record that any other quarterback in history basically Playoff teams are generally only one or two games above 500 sometimes if that, and a good team will win 11 to 14 games a year, dealing many teams that one loss that ultimately keeps them out of the playoffs or from having a winning record. So what you're doing is contriving a stat that a) assumes that a quarterback is 100% responsible for the outcome of the game, which is dumb ESPN bullshit, and 2) punishes teams who are successful, and to turn several teams a season into teams that don't make the playoffs and or finish below 500
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May 9, 2023 13:09
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Diqnol posted:Did you know he's 2-4 in the playoffs? Try this (from 2021, numbers are basically the same) blarzgh posted:When a team's defense allows 30+ points, the BEST quarterbacks in the NFL only win about 25% of their games.
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May 9, 2023 13:15
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Think of how many more games dak would win if he were better at defense.
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blarzgh posted:"X - X against playoff teams/ teams are the winning record" is a made up stat, It means only one thing: You either are or you are not Tom Brady who is the only quarterback that has significantly more wins against teams have finished with > .500 record that any other quarterback in history basically Mahomes is better than Brady on this front even though he has fewer games. His record against winning teams is 0.625. Brady is 0.611. Jimmy G is next at 0.565, DangerRuss at 0.542. That’s it for winning records. Lamar is at 0.500. Losing records is Throw Rogan at 0.483, Mariota at 0.480 and Dak at 0.468. Goff and Allen are the only others above 0.400 at 0.451 and 0.444 respectively. Herbie is at 0.400. Source: https://sportsandfitnessdigest.com/active-nfl-quarterback-records-against-winning-teams/
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May 9, 2023 13:53
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*Dak Prescott, falling down a cliff in the grand canyon to his death* Blarzgh: yeah but look how many rocks he hit with his head on the way down, he's actually an elite tumbler
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I mean, in the stat that was brought up (wins against teams with winning records) he’s one of the best in the league and better than any other QB in the NFCE. Most QBs have a very bad record against teams with winning records. Dak, at near .500, is better than most QBs.
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i think dak prescott is a very good quarterback and i respect his abilities, i just think it's possible to be a very good and respectable quarterback while also never accomplishing anything worth a drat
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May 9, 2023 17:31
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Dak's game losing slide is still one of the worst plays in NFL history
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Mr. Nice! posted:I mean, in the stat that was brought up (wins against teams with winning records) he’s one of the best in the league and better than any other QB in the NFCE. Thank you for demonstrating that stats can be spun to support any narrative which goes back to the overarching point that stats are irrelevant in the face of rings and wins Are you really gonna stan Dak as a cope for how badly run the Cowboys org is? If you don’t win, did it matter? Is the point you’re trying to make that your guy would win more on a better team? Isn’t that obvious?
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like you can show me all the evidence and metrics and data pointing to dak being a remarkable talent and i will nod along with them because i believe that to be the case, but the second part of that conversation will forever be "okay, but, like, he didn't win anything" until he actually wins something if you asked me right now if i'd take prescott or hurts — eliminating age as a factor — i'd say prescott, just because he's been a good-to-very good QB for a much longer stretch, but if last year doesn't turn out to have been lightning in a bottle and hurts brings the team back to the NFCCG or SB during this window, i have to start looking at what dak's been able to do with his own very good rosters over the years. and that's not scientific or maybe even fair, but unless you're in the marino/manning/rodgers tier you've gotta show you can Do Something in the Postseason and dak is not in the marino/manning/rodgers tier Toaster Beef fucked around with this message at 17:42 on May 9, 2023 |
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Decimals are where dorks go to cope about their empty ring fingers
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Dak's game losing slide is still one of the worst plays in NFL history And funniest
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Dak's game losing slide is still one of the worst plays in NFL history Personally I don't think it's anywhere close to the  I hope Dak gets to go ring chasing before his prime comes to an end.
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He could be a TE or similar on the eagles
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Febreeze posted:Decimals are where dorks go to cope about their empty ring fingers You could tell me this was a quote from Joe Judge or maybe Gettleman and I’d believe it.
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He’s have to take a pay cut tho.
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Has a sports writer ever been concerned about the weight of a white player.
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Pat? e: oh nm
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Luka? Or are you saying something about Slovenians??
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euphronius posted:Has a sports writer ever been concerned about the weight of a white player. Jared Lorenzen (RIP) was a Big Beautiful Super Bowl Champion.
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Diqnol posted:Thank you for demonstrating that stats can be spun to support any narrative which goes back to the overarching point that stats are irrelevant in the face of rings and wins First off you're new here so I'll forgive you: I'm the president of the Dak Prescott Fan Club, not him. Secondly, "Stats" contain useful information to people who like football and want to learn more about it, and understand it better. To people who eat shoe leather and huff paint while watching ESPN and Skip Bayless on Yellfight(tm), and say things like, "QB winzz" unironically, no, stats don't mean very much, mostly because math, and too many words scare them.
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Notice as well that all the farty, bloated Giants fans have sworn a blood oath to abhor statistics, So they can pretend that Eli Was anything more than a below average quarterback carried by luck, variance, and an all-world defense to two titles.
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blarzgh posted:Notice as well that all the farty, bloated Giants fans have sworn a blood oath to abhor statistics, So they can pretend that Eli Was anything more than a below average quarterback carried by luck, variance, and an all-world defense to two titles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYTPgW5PJFU&t=24s
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blarzgh posted:Notice as well that all the farty, bloated Giants fans have sworn a blood oath to abhor statistics, So they can pretend that Eli Was anything more than a below average quarterback carried by luck, variance, and an all-world defense to two titles. I'm fine with statistics, I'm just extremely tired of tiny stupid ones illustrating that Dak is actually the third best QB on long downs in the second quarter or whatever the gently caress Just say he's good, because he is Febreeze fucked around with this message at 21:16 on May 9, 2023 |
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I think Dak can win a championship but I'm also aware of Jerry Jones and his monkey paw luck that I can also believe Dak has already hit his peak and is about to drop really fast. I never considered him a running quarterback, more as a quarterback that could run on ya occasionally. Losing that to injury and overall coaching reluctance I think hurts more of his game than he realizes. I will poo poo on him when he implodes though. Because he can't hear me and he has a lot more money than me.
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