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Wonder if we're going to see a SAG-AFTRA strike soon over this. Feels like "studio owns the rights to your likeness in perpetuity" is definitely something to strike over. davidspackage posted:lol, studios and streaming services are probably dreaming of a future where AI generates movies for them based on current trends and starring actors who have been dead for decades, without any more cost than computer time. No more new art, just recycled and regurgitated bits of old, glued back together. Horrible. More and more I think of it, Michael Crichton's Looker was downright prescient for 1980.
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Young Freud posted:More and more I think of it, Michael Crichton's Looker was downright prescient for 1980. Simone was almost there; it just didn't get that recreating actual actors would be the route to take. Actually, if in a few decades we get the complete erosion of actor's rights in favor of AI recreation, I wonder if someday we might actually get the Jason Momoa Frosty the Snowman movie. Taking this to its extreme, I wonder if some actors might push for movie remakes or "special editions" with them inserted into roles that they had passed on. Star Wars: The Super Special Edition with Sissy Spacek as Leia and Kurt Russell as Han, for example. Chairman Capone fucked around with this message at 16:29 on May 7, 2023 |
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Young Freud posted:Wonder if we're going to see a SAG-AFTRA strike soon over this. Feels like "studio owns the rights to your likeness in perpetuity" is definitely something to strike over. It also sounds like legally impossible, but there might be an urgent need to clarify this kind of thing in law. Like, yesterday.
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davidspackage posted:lol, studios and streaming services are probably dreaming of a future where AI generates movies for them based on current trends and starring actors who have been dead for decades, without any more cost than computer time. No more new art, just recycled and regurgitated bits of old, glued back together. Horrible.
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FlamingLiberal posted:It's mainly that the biggest costs for anything are always labor, and their profits can go up astronomically if they are just using AI to write scripts and then another AI and CGI to just recreate older actors instead of shooting real ones. So that is their preferred future even if it's not going to go as well for them as they think. Studios sowing: Haha, yes no actors, this is great! Studio reaping: WTF people like actors this sucks
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FlamingLiberal posted:It's mainly that the biggest costs for anything are always labor, and their profits can go up astronomically if they are just using AI to write scripts and then another AI and CGI to just recreate older actors instead of shooting real ones. So that is their preferred future even if it's not going to go as well for them as they think. I think you have to look at story heavy video games for the sort of things they'll try out. character creators, fake interactivity etc. cheaping out on script writers for movies seems like a bad bet given how high all the other costs are. recreating that one star that have you a good rate on their likeness seems like much better value for money
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Young Freud posted:Wonder if we're going to see a SAG-AFTRA strike soon over this. Feels like "studio owns the rights to your likeness in perpetuity" is definitely something to strike SAG-AFTRA and the DGA have their CBA deadlines coming up. This is why it's so important to hold solidarity with the WGA. The studios are trying to break the unions.
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While that SAG-AFTRA quote and implication is nightmarish, is it an actually new thing to demand the 'in perpetuity' bit? Minus the phrasing about technology it's exactly a joke from a 24 year old Mission Hill episode which makes me wonder if it's been a thing for ages.
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NY recently-ish passed a law saying after someone dies, you had to get permission from the person's estate to recreate their likeness commercially. I assume these new clauses were prepared to work around that and any other laws like it that come out.
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Failed Imagineer posted:Reality Bites was pretty accomplished for a debut as well, I often misremember and think it was Linklater. The movie itself is unwatchably 90s now tho Nah Reality Bites isn't unbearably 90s it's unbearably Gen X like Rent, just a bunch of rich white kids wanting to live like Common People and just being the most artificial bohemians. See also Into The Wild.
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May 8, 2023 00:30
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Does that contract really say throughout the entire goddamn universe
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ruddiger posted:Does that contract really say throughout the entire goddamn universe That's pretty standard boilerplate.
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Canopus250 posted:While that SAG-AFTRA quote and implication is nightmarish, is it an actually new thing to demand the 'in perpetuity' bit? It’s a joke like gags about America being full of guns that kill people are a joke
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ruddiger posted:Does that contract really say throughout the entire goddamn universe The Gorbons of Zinlok VI will attempt to invade earth, but because we wrote a law that says they can’t they’ll just fall over dead like the Martians in War of the Worlds.
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The emperor of the Fourth stimpire can remove my likeness from my bones but he won’t be able to use it In media as it belongs to the Embracer group forever +12
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Canopus250 posted:While that SAG-AFTRA quote and implication is nightmarish, is it an actually new thing to demand the 'in perpetuity' bit? Never forget that Netflix shut down, and eventually ended, Nailed It! because they were using a non-union crew and the crew wanted to join the union.
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Same with Tuca and Bertie. Would've hit Bojack too if they hadn't decided the next season would be the last.
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Nailed It! was also one of their biggest hits when it comes to original series and it still didn't matter.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Nailed It! was also one of their biggest hits when it comes to original series and it still didn't matter. Not to mention the budget difference between a show like Nailed It and any of their scripted shows that have been successful. Like, they could probably crank out 10 seasons of Nailed It for the cost of just one season of The Witcher or Stranger Things. I'd think that a popular show that's also as cheap to produce as Nailed It would be considered extremely valuable to them.
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Nailed It! is also not really a show you need to pay super close attention to, so they may think that 56 episodes is enough. If I want to throw something on for background noise while I'm doing something else, I'm going to choose something that isn't going to require my full attention, and potentially something I've already seen before. Having 7 seasons of a baking competition show seems like the kind of thing that would be evergreen as low-intensity background entertainment.
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Robot Style posted:Nailed It! is also not really a show you need to pay super close attention to, so they may think that 56 episodes is enough. If I want to throw something on for background noise while I'm doing something else, I'm going to choose something that isn't going to require my full attention, and potentially something I've already seen before. Having 7 seasons of a baking competition show seems like the kind of thing that would be evergreen as low-intensity background entertainment. They ended it suddenly, in the middle of filming a season, not after they had a season finished. They were going to finish filming that season, but nope..the terrible crew wanted to join a union. That's why the last season only has 4 episodes, compared to the other seasons having 6.
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We Got Us A Bread posted:They ended it suddenly, in the middle of filming a season, not after they had a season finished. They were going to finish filming that season, but nope..the terrible crew wanted to join a union.  could it be that the corporation is bad and hates unions? No, surely they wouldn't do something so obvious and petty.
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Nailed It! is like the one Netflix show I watch consistently and it's lovely what happened to them. Good on the crew for unionizing. Currently both the Blade movie and the new Daredevil has been halted. Stranger Things 5 too, with the Duffer brothers also showing support for the writers.
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Andor still filming despite the union strike is very ironic but unfortunately not surprising.
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The MSJ posted:Nailed It! is like the one Netflix show I watch consistently and it's lovely what happened to them. Good on the crew for unionizing. I think we're going to see more solidarity this time, since everyone's CBA's are up within months of each other. The writers now, SAG-AFTRA and the Directors Guild CBA's are both up on June 30th.
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We Got Us A Bread posted:This IS the corporation that managed to somehow make a Squid Games reality show about as dangerous as the actual Squid Games, so.... everyone denies there being real issues. no idea if britains safety things are as lovely as the us though In January 2023, reports emerged that ambulances had been called to treat real life injuries sustained while filming the show. Netflix denied the severity of the reports stating that the injuries were mild medical conditions and that they care about the health and safety of the cast and crew. The local ambulance service also stated that it had not been called out to the studios recently.[217][218] Britain's Health and Safety Executive evaluated the production after these complaints and found no actionable issues, though cautioned the production to be prepared for any future risks.[219]
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https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1655608367241461768?t=mlbUj4RHcnu_SRKuQLnVUw&s=19 Sure why not
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fatherboxx posted:https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1655608367241461768?t=mlbUj4RHcnu_SRKuQLnVUw&s=19 Viktor Bout to break these box office records
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more like Viktor rebout as long as jared leto isn't in it preferably isn't in anything ever again
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Leto died in the first one any ways. By the way, MEG 2 : THE TRENCH.
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fatherboxx posted:https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1655608367241461768?t=mlbUj4RHcnu_SRKuQLnVUw&s=19 Here's hoping that this time, Bill Skarsgard's character will live to see the end of the movie.
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fatherboxx posted:https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1655608367241461768?t=mlbUj4RHcnu_SRKuQLnVUw&s=19 Can't wait for Cage's thinly-veiled Viktor Bout to get released to the Russians, who put him on TV to talk about how "Americans believe in 32 genders" and other culture war bullshit to make them feel happy about being in a losing war.
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Young Freud posted:Can't wait for Cage's thinly-veiled Viktor Bout to get released to the Russians, who put him on TV to talk about how "Americans believe in 32 genders" and other culture war bullshit to make them feel happy about being in a losing war. 32? Those are rookie numbers
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well why not posted:Leto died in the first one any ways. They did a good job hinting at the stuff from the book without showing it. Also they added stuff. More is better.
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Lord of War didn’t do very well, right? It’s a good film and all but I’m surprised someone thinks there’s an audience for a sequel.
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Maxwell Lord posted:Lord of War didn’t do very well, right? It’s a good film and all but I’m surprised someone thinks there’s an audience for a sequel. We are in one of those phases where the general public is kinda vaguely aware that Nic Cage is awesome so the studios rush to make stuff with him before his popularity becomes irony-poisoned again.
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Maxwell Lord posted:Lord of War didn’t do very well, right? It’s a good film and all but I’m surprised someone thinks there’s an audience for a sequel. It lost money. It's very odd to announce a sequel 18 years later.
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And its a movie that doesn't need a sequel and would be hard to graft one on It is a good film though if anyone hasn't seen it, although its very depressing.
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