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Failed Imagineer posted:At least though Israel's involvement leads to some Palestine flag action from time to time, sucks though. I don't think it's pathetic clout-chasing for the UK to host it. Clearly the winners, Ukraine, weren't going to be be in a position to host it so the country that came 2nd would be the logical option.
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This years uk entry seems alright. A Corbyn fan who got in trouble for tweeting about how boris johnson was a waste of a hospital bed, how she hates this country and is getting a german passport to move to spain.
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It doesn’t seem to have made much of a dent in national media, but a party leader is probably about to resign for doing a poo poo job of handling a culture of sexual harassment: https://twitter.com/adrianmasters84/status/1655974067701260288?s=46
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May 9, 2023 18:27
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What even is the point of Starmer's Labour party? https://twitter.com/ITVNewsPolitics/status/1655970444351086592
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Arsenic Lupin posted:What even is the point of Starmer's Labour party? giving more money to different tories
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crispix posted:Sam Ryder was great, even France gave him 12 points He was big shite
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Arsenic Lupin posted:What even is the point of Starmer's Labour party?
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Arsenic Lupin posted:What even is the point of Starmer's Labour party? people don't want a material change in policy, they just want the guy smashing the 'we love corporations / gently caress the poor' buttons to have a red rosette instead of a blue one
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May 9, 2023 19:03
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https://twitter.com/rachelreevesmp/status/1655949836464816128?s=46 Has anyone written anything about the emergence of this ‘Labour centrist accent’? She talks with the exact same diction as Starmer, and I’m sure others do too. I’m sure it’s just a case of them all having the same elocution coach or whatever, but it’s extremely annoying
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May 9, 2023 19:04
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Arsenic Lupin posted:What even is the point of Starmer's Labour party? To get in power by being the Tories but more Prime Ministerial. Like I'll say this much for living in Norn Iron - Sinn Fein reflect my views, and not just because they aren't the DUP. I'd replace my blood with loving fentanyl if I grew up with the never-changing morass of English politics.
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I had the local DUP candidate knock on the door tonight. Silly wee sod had barely started shaving. Imagine deciding to devote your youth to a bunch of soul sucking, incompetent ludicrous old bigots
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Answers Me posted:It doesn’t seem to have made much of a dent in national media, but a party leader is probably about to resign for doing a poo poo job of handling a culture of sexual harassment: Is there no decent political party in the UK? I was wondering when some bad poo poo about Plaid would come out seeing as I'm not voting Tory, nor Labour, nor LibDem and have certain qualms about Green so was vacillating between Green & Plaid (and until now hadn't heard anything bad about Plaid). I guess if resignations rather than rehabilitations (à la Tories & Labour) are afoot that's something in their favour. I suppose to be realistic there will never be a power structure free of sexual harassment which is about power.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:What even is the point of Starmer's Labour party? The bit of the ratchet that holds still while the arm winds back up.
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Answers Me posted:Has anyone written anything about the emergence of this ‘Labour centrist accent’? She talks with the exact same diction as Starmer, and I’m sure others do too. I’m sure it’s just a case of them all having the same elocution coach or whatever, but it’s extremely annoying There's probably some media training that's gone on in the background - all these cunts care about is what Times columnists think, after all - but the main thing with their pattern of speech is that they stress the same kind of words in their sentences, with similar pauses before they move on (Starmer actually pauses slightly longer during speeches, but rushes when he's in conversation with the media) and the same almost sing-song intonation. From a pragmatics point of view, it makes sense - it's the kind of thing that comes naturally to lots of people as a way of keeping people listening: handy if you're as deathly boring as Reeves and Starmer are. Her accent is still there in the background - you can hear the London coming out at times. Again, presumably they've got some focus-group feedback from floating voters somewhere that they don't trust the metropolitan elite*, so Reeves is clamping down on sounding human. * - Sunak is the metropolitan elite and has about as much to do with London as I do with good physical fitness.
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Guavanaut posted:And here's the dumbest poo poo I've read all day. I'm glad blueticks have taken all the guess work out of who's taking the piss and who's just one of the dumbest fucks alive.
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Gonzo McFee posted:I'm glad blueticks have taken all the guess work out of who's taking the piss and who's just one of the dumbest fucks alive. They are genuinely much more useful than the old ones
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smellmycheese posted:I had the local DUP candidate knock on the door tonight. Silly wee sod had barely started shaving. Imagine deciding to devote your youth to a bunch of soul sucking, incompetent ludicrous old bigots buddy let me tell you about the University of Exeter's Conservative Future society
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OwlFancier posted:The bit of the ratchet that holds still while the arm winds back up. domhal posted:
 Importantly this is relative values, so it's more like Theodor Adorno's F-factor theory than the internets political compasses where the top left are doctrinaire Stalinists or some poo poo. The interesting takeaways are that there's no 'economic libertarians' in real life other than maybe one Insufficiently Embarrassed Vince Cable, and that most of the population are nowhere near the right hand side. As other studies have shown, the only people on that economic thought wasteland on the right in the UK are Tory MPs. Their voters would be more like to that top-middle cluster in the US.  However socially, especially among switch voters, it's the other way around.  So it is assumed that the upper-right quadrant is the 'battleground', conveniently freeing them both to shoot economically rightward while culture warring. Also, I read that book recommended itt Answers Me posted:Repeater have just published a book that might as well be about the Deano meme (in fact I think it might actually talk about it at points). Not read it yet but I’ve seen some good reviews: https://repeaterbooks.com/product/a-nation-of-shopkeepers/ quote:The Trump diehards who cut their teeth in the Tea Party were not wage workers, nor even misclassified independent contractors, but small businesspeople concentrated in the blue-collar residential construction sector and its white-collar satellite professions of homeware retail, real-estate services, mortgage brokerage, and accounting. It was the meteoric rise and fall of the small business sector — not the long saga of deindustrialization — that gave birth to the current cycle of far-right populism. quote:Yet far from a harmonious ecosystem where everyone benefits, the real reason that small capitalism has survived against the odds is simply because it benefits the capitalist political system to have a reservoir of small, desperate, dependent capital. The increased fragmentation of the economy into smaller units and the lengthening of the supply chain is, on the face of it, irrational, but it is always at base about maximizing profits. quote:they can also serve to obscure the interests and controlling role of big capital within society: hence, in anti-gentrification activism, it is common for anarchists and the like to target small “hipster” businesses — often the face of gentrification — whilst ignoring the large landowners and property developers that actually drive this process. This has also historically been the case in working-class race riots, which target petty-bourgeois shop-owners — often drawn from minority ethnic groups quote:As the working class grew more affluent during the welfare state, the economic and status divides between the classes became narrower, much to the horror of the shopkeepers. This frequently bubbled over into a deep hatred of those beneath them quote:Far from a rugged individualism, the tradesmen in fact exhibited a radical politics that was entirely compatible with socialism and saw themselves clearly as allied to the working class. (Also a fair bit I disagree with, like Deliveroo riders as petty booj. Like Marx literally defines organ grinders, knife grinders, and porters as lumpenproletariat, you can't just say that because a group of people compete against one another rather than as a class and own a machine with wheels they're petty booj. Which is no diss against Deliveroo riders, but all that I've known are far more in what he'd say that France would call la bohème than his 'smaller capitalists'.) Anyhow, this basically points to electioneering on culture war issues with token "we will improve X" statements without any "we will transform the ownership of X". And also allows both to go economically rightward on 'aspiration' and 'entrepreneurialism' to the pleasure of their large donors. The one good thing about this situation is that the Brexitrump years have soured a whole lot of people in that quarter to anti-immigrant politics to the point where even Farage's army of discharged football hooligans with binoculars couldn't stir up too much of a lasting fuss about the smol botes.  The bad thing is that the culture war gristmill will find something else. Jaeluni Asjil posted:Woah, didn't realize CLPs banned from affiliating to all these! (Not sure how many are clp bans and how many are individual member bans).
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Guavanaut posted:e.g. London-Irish Abortion Rights Campaign, All African Women's Group. Things could get poo poo fast. Also, Sikhs for Labour and Somalis for Labour. He'd ban Solomon Islanders for Labour, too, if he could find out who set it up.
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kingturnip posted:Also, Sikhs for Labour and Somalis for Labour. Sikhs for Labour makes me think this is some sort of weird procedural bullshit. Their current leader is Gurinder Singh Josan, an NEC member and long-standing diehard of the Labour right.
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What they want is for CLPs to no longer be able to make affiliations by themselves, as part of their general war to centralise power in that party, and that's a list of organisations that are known to be directly affiliated by CLPs.There's a clear political motivation in the move but maybe not in the exact list of organisations affected.
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josh04 posted:What they want is for CLPs to no longer be able to make affiliations by themselves, as part of their general war to centralise power in that party, and that's a list of organisations that are known to be directly affiliated by CLPs.There's a clear political motivation in the move but maybe not in the exact list of organisations affected. Yep. It's not a completely terrible move in itself, CLPs being able to affiliate to whatever group they want willy-nilly is a bit strange, but the expectation is that it'll be used as an instrument to kick out a fresh tranche of leftist members for new exciting reasons.
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Guavanaut posted:And here's the dumbest poo poo I've read all day. "I love nature but" is to environmentalism like "I love women  " is to feminism.
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https://twitter.com/andy_charmer/status/1656197096456765442quote:Last week’s local election results were good for Labour. They weren’t good enough to guarantee that the party will win an overall majority at the next general election. In fact, they suggest that we’re heading for the third hung parliament since 2010. And this is great news for Rishi Sunak.
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Guavanaut posted:Graph porn A very good and interesting read. Thank you for sharing.
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I mean in a way it's true: the local election results were good for Starmer, meaning it was a win for the Tories.
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Answers Me posted:https://twitter.com/rachelreevesmp/status/1655949836464816128?s=46 yes it's been pissing me off for at least a decade and i find it easier to listen to an outright headbanger like ann widdecombe than i do them
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Aphex- posted:I had an ice cream van come round my neighbourhood on saturday while it was pissing it down raining It ain't just selling ice cream 
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Having put up his wallet for inspection, a Guardian columnist now volunteers his hard drive. https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2023/may/09/eric-gill-was-evil-his-sculpture-at-bbc-headquarters-isnt Death of the artist may be a valid concept - although I'd argue that it isn't when you're talking about a paedophile's sculpture of a naked child - but when your strapline says Eric Gill was evil you should maybe consider not concluding your article with "have you considered that the guy who raped his own daughter might be the real victim here?"
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Nenonen posted:"I love nature but" is to environmentalism like "I love women I get what he means though. He loves watching clips of monkeys being silly presented in a way that makes him feel like it's deeper than that and when you start saying stuff like " and due to aggressive logging their environment will be destroyed in the next 30 years and they'll most likely go extinct outside of captivity" it's no longer fun monkey clips but sad monkey clips that make you feel powerless. In many ways when faced with an existential threat that bleak the sane response is denial. I think it's part of a wider thing of loving surface level poo poo and being deeply suspicious of anything that goes deeper than that because it drives home the powerlessness at the heart of existence. Like those imgur posts where they'll say "I loving love science" and half of the images are shots of stars with half wrong summations of scientific theory. You don't love science. You love Rick and Morty and feeling smarter than everyone else. The political version of this to me is centrism. You don't love politics, you love the West Wing, and it's poo poo.
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Answers Me posted:It doesn’t seem to have made much of a dent in national media, but a party leader is probably about to resign for doing a poo poo job of handling a culture of sexual harassment: I'm not sure how Adam Price is surviving this one. EDIT: Apparently he didn't quote:Adam Price has agreed to step down as the leader of Plaid Cymru, we have been told. bessantj fucked around with this message at 10:28 on May 10, 2023 |
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Guavanaut posted:The bad thing is that the culture war gristmill will find something else. e: Jedit posted:Death of the artist may be a valid concept - although I'd argue that it isn't when you're talking about a paedophile's sculpture of a naked child Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 10:56 on May 10, 2023 |
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smellmycheese posted:Brendan causing problems for the Mail’s page designers today The sub-editor having a quiet chuckle while picking a term like "top down" for the "head"line
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smellmycheese posted:Brendan causing problems for the Mail’s page designers today Am I spending my life screaming at ghosts? No, it's the woke who are at fault.
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Potatohead Bridgen causing commons chaos https://twitter.com/mikeysmith/status/1656252180104355841?s=46&t=m_nNbkNoHG4lLitcpyHReg 
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