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How much more dark could this Dungeon be? None. None more dark.
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May 9, 2023 22:49
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maybe it's like a papa johns situation where all dungeons are equally dark so it's ok to say darkest but you can't legally say darker
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May 9, 2023 22:56
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Darkie Dungeon - Turns out that racism is the real monster.
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May 9, 2023 23:00
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kazil posted:maybe it's like a papa johns situation where all dungeons are equally dark so it's ok to say darkest but you can't legally say darker I'm pretty sure Papa John's is the last guy you want to have determining how dark something should be.
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May 9, 2023 23:06
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Artelier posted:No magic wand thingy but I assume it can't be far! Just like a few bombs and various items that are so limited I'm scared to use them. I apologize, we're really ruining the game by spoilering future stuff. Especially that other jerk!! Just keep playing and know that the gators are a nasty hump, and don't worry about hoarding consumables.
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May 9, 2023 23:57
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It was pretty clear Darkest Dungeon 2 was going to be a mess as soon as the devs revealed a 3D style that would kill the game's sizable mod community.
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May 10, 2023 00:23
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PowerBeard posted:Darkie Dungeon - Turns out that racism is the real monster.
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May 10, 2023 00:28
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Det_no posted:It was pretty clear Darkest Dungeon 2 was going to be a mess as soon as the devs revealed a 3D style that would kill the game's sizable mod community. The unpopular video game opinions thread is thatta way my dude ---> Of all the things one might hope to see in a sequel, "strong upgrade to the graphics while remaining faithful to the aesthetic" is universally welcome.
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May 10, 2023 00:34
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Serephina posted:The unpopular video game opinions thread is thatta way my dude ---> Tell that to the Disgaea fandom. 3D models instead of sprites was quite the unwelcomed change for most.
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May 10, 2023 00:36
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Det_no posted:It was pretty clear Darkest Dungeon 2 was going to be a mess as soon as the devs revealed a 3D style that would kill the game's sizable mod community. The immense dangers of upsetting the porn mods caucus.
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May 10, 2023 00:38
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Add me another one who just didn't jive with Darkest Dungeons. I Kickstarted it and I don't regret helping a developer make the game they wanted to make but the end product just wasn't for me. I just couldn't get into the combat and the triage and failure mitigation was a bit too much for me. Glad it found its audience, though.
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May 10, 2023 00:40
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That's totally fair and it's possible the sequel will appeal to people who didn't dig the first one. I'm glad they didn't just make the same game again - I kinda feel like the first one was a thorough examination of that game, and we don't need another one. If people don't like DD2 on its merits that's fine. I was just amazed by how many people were upset that it wasn't the first one again.
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May 10, 2023 00:51
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Couldn't the modders just make 3D models? Every internet artist is learning Blender for kicks these days.
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May 10, 2023 00:51
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mycot posted:Couldn't the modders just make 3D models? Every internet artist is learning Blender for kicks these days. that one fuckin Drawfee episode, my god
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May 10, 2023 00:55
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HopperUK posted:that one fuckin Drawfee episode, my god
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May 10, 2023 01:11
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from the weird fanart thread
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May 10, 2023 01:15
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 PerfectFor my utterly pointless two cents I didn’t find the failure spiral nature of DD1 super enjoyable, I wanted a tactical game not so much a tactical game with an almost unavoidable tax on basically everything you did (stress.) Utterly unmatched vibes though. Orv fucked around with this message at 01:21 on May 10, 2023 |
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May 10, 2023 01:16
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Oxxidation posted:from the weird fanart thread
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May 10, 2023 01:17
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https://twitter.com/griffinmatta/status/1656106351184199680
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May 10, 2023 02:39
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Not that “a game long delayed will turn out good” has ever been true but that sure is a long tail on a game with already massive expectations, I don’t imagine that ending up well.
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May 10, 2023 02:43
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that's right, Silksong will be bad because it took 4 years to make. many people are saying this
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May 10, 2023 02:45
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silksong will be answering the question: can a metroidvania be too big?
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May 10, 2023 02:46
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The 7th Guest posted:that's right, Silksong will be garbage because it took 4 years to make Rather that gamers don’t self-manage expectations well and it’s very hard, deservedly or not, for a sequel to live up to a phenomenon first entry. I expect the game itself to be fantastic but since it won’t be the second coming some people will find that unacceptable after the wait. 
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May 10, 2023 02:47
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Orv posted:Rather that gamers don’t self-manage expectations well and it’s very hard, deservedly or not, for a sequel to live up to a phenomenon first entry. I expect the game itself to be fantastic but since it won’t be the second coming some people will find that unacceptable after the wait.
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May 10, 2023 02:49
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The 7th Guest posted:there's a game coming out in 3 days that will really test your hypothesis It’s already proven a dozen times over but go on
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May 10, 2023 02:50
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is there an example of a sequel that was fantastic but people hated it because it wasn't the first game and it took a really long time to make? because like, psychonauts 2 took forever to happen and get made and it was very highly received by critics and fans e: arkham city is another sequel following up a beloved game that was highly regarded even though i dont like it The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 02:56 on May 10, 2023 |
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May 10, 2023 02:54
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Orv posted:Not that “a game long delayed will turn out good” has ever been true but that sure is a long tail on a game with already massive expectations, I don’t imagine that ending up well. Half Life 3 is real and he's my boyfriend
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May 10, 2023 02:56
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Orv posted:Not that “a game long delayed will turn out good” has ever been true but that sure is a long tail on a game with already massive expectations, I don’t imagine that ending up well. The follow-up to Subnautica kind of followed that path. It wasn’t meant to be a full sequel so they tried to manage expectations, but it was in development for 3 years and came out in a somewhat disappointing state. That Miyamoto quote is dumb. A delayed game CAN eventually be good, but time is no guarantee especially for something with a troubled development cycle. Not that I really expect the Hollow Knight DLC to turn out the same way. It sounds more like they ended up wanting to put more effort into it than they initially planned for, which is great if they’re up for it. Tiny Timbs fucked around with this message at 02:59 on May 10, 2023 |
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May 10, 2023 02:57
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HK1 is a solidly good game from about a hundred different angles so they can take it in any direction they want within reason and it'll turn out fine. The only way the game could turn out bad is if the boss design suddenly became terrible and after two dozen good ones in the first game that doesn't really seem likely.
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May 10, 2023 02:59
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The 7th Guest posted:is there an example of a sequel that was fantastic but people hated it because it wasn't the first game and it took a really long time to make? Darkest Dungeon 2  More realistically I meant the fact that the video game hype train often vastly outpaces the actual game, the sequel part I don’t recall coming into play very much. That’s more of a suspicion about the potential reaction to Silksong if they make any major changes from the first game or it isn’t just so, just because gamers will be gamers and people are ravenous for Silksong in particular. Though to be clear I have zero issues with being wrong here, happy to be.
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May 10, 2023 02:59
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Tiny Timbs posted:The follow-up to Subnautica kind of followed that path. It wasn’t meant to be a full sequel so they tried to manage expectations, but it was in development for 3 years and came out in a somewhat disappointing state. i even thought the on-foot stuff was fine and a nice shakeup, but the world map was just mediocre
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May 10, 2023 03:00
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I liked below zero more than subnautica because the performance was better.
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May 10, 2023 03:08
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I honestly can’t see a backlash happening. The Hollow Knight fandom feels more like the ones for Undertale or Outer Wilds, where it’s more “you’ve already given us our favorite game of all time so y’all can do no wrong”. Like, the Outer Wilds DLC was way more contentious than the base game but it didn’t get overblown hate for it, and even detractors still loved just having the opportunity to return to that world. I’d imagine a similar situation happening if Silksong is mid (but also Silksong will not be mid so it’s a moot point).
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May 10, 2023 03:10
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When has a video game sequel ever been successful? They all famously fail, rejected by overly discerning gamers.
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May 10, 2023 03:21
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It’s why they can never make Brutal Legend 2, how could it possibly compare?
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May 10, 2023 03:23
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they can't make a sequel to Brütal Legend until somebody invents a 2 with an umlaut on it
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May 10, 2023 03:31
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Hwurmp posted:they can't make a sequel to Brütal Legend until somebody invents a 2 with an umlaut on it Brütal Legend ÏÏ
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May 10, 2023 03:36
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oh shït
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The 7th Guest posted:is there an example of a sequel that was fantastic but people hated it because it wasn't the first game and it took a really long time to make? Umineko wasn't well liked in Japan and the author basically in game says thank you bootleg english translators for making this worthwhile It's hard to think of answers to your question because it requires a lot of things to happen 1. a successful first game 2. a meaningfully different second game in the same series (most devs just make a new game under a different brand) 3. a long dev time 4. existing fan rejection of the game 5. a different audience saying hey this is actually great fez_machine fucked around with this message at 03:44 on May 10, 2023 |
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