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The most important thing about tanking is your glams. Do you like sword and board, big axes, big swords, or tiny swords?
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Kitfox88 posted:I miss two dungeons per patch While I get it, I honestly don't miss getting a bunch of dungeons. For me personally, I don't run dungeons that often. I don't do roulettes. I run a dungeon as many times as I need to get the associated triple triad card and then never again. I'm much more interested in unique systems or content over yet another dungeon when we have almost 100 dungeons in game already.
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May 10, 2023 17:46
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So is the live letter probably going to include the first hints of the next expansion, going off of past ones?
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May 10, 2023 17:50
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Regalingualius posted:So is the live letter probably going to include the first hints of the next expansion, going off of past ones? The live letter isn't going to touch expansion stuff. It will be wholly focused on 6.4. We won't get the first whiff of expansion news until Fanfest in July.
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May 10, 2023 17:53
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Regalingualius posted:So is the live letter probably going to include the first hints of the next expansion, going off of past ones? Yoship said in an interview we might catch a glimpse, but he'd be surprised if we guessed it
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May 10, 2023 17:53
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I doubt it. Since the story is supposedly not linking into the next expansion, we're probably going to need to wait until Fanfest.
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May 10, 2023 17:53
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past x.4 patches have had teases into what the expansion would be, broadly, but I think whether this patch does depends on whether we finish with the void story this patch or not. but for me, I'm doubtful that the trail ends at golbez. and then of course two months after that we'll get the fanfest announcement
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May 10, 2023 17:58
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Ok yeah I wanted to make sure I wasn't spreading misinformation. It comes from a translation of a famitsu article that came out on the first of this month. I can't post the tweet because it's spoilery but we were talking about it in the spoiler thread. Anyway, yoship seems to have said "You might see a hint of what will happen after this 6.X series, but you might not be able to figure out what exactly it is yet." Source here: https://tw itter.com/aitaikimochi/status/1653104286610624513?t=c5i6Y_y5hi2bscrpANdjDA&s=19 E: ohhh I'm dumb you meant the live letter not the next patch. My bad! TheWorldsaStage fucked around with this message at 18:02 on May 10, 2023 |
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May 10, 2023 18:00
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:I doubt it. Since the story is supposedly not linking into the next expansion, we're probably going to need to wait until Fanfest. There's no direct link in that the 6.x MSQ is a story arc all on its own, but it is supposed to somehow lead into the situation for 7.0 from memory. It's just that 7.0 will be its own story too, compared to the multiple expansion spanning Ascian Arc. Think of the Golbez story as a side story between two main stories, that is meant to provide some set up but be self contained.
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May 10, 2023 18:09
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They might keep Zero on the team (if we don't have to kill her) since people like her and they need new characters, but I will be surprised if the 7.0 story has any other relation to the Golbez/void stuff we're doing now. i think 6.5 is going to throw something completely different at us
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May 10, 2023 18:21
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Can someone help me set up my bar as a lvl 77 paladin? I'm back in the game after a break and I have no idea what I'm doing, except apparently I'm using all the wrong skills in the wrong order. (Keyboard/mouse.)
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May 10, 2023 18:22
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Are you on KBM or controller?
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May 10, 2023 18:24
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FuturePastNow posted:They might keep Zero on the team (if we don't have to kill her) since people like her and they need new characters, but I will be surprised if the 7.0 story has any other relation to the Golbez/void stuff we're doing now. i think 6.5 is going to throw something completely different at us I'm really, really looking forward to the 6.5 trailer. Sept can't come fast enough
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May 10, 2023 18:27
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Arist posted:Are you on KBM or controller? Keyboard/mouse.
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May 10, 2023 18:29
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kedo posted:So tanking is easy, that's good to know I suppose – if it's the easiest role to play, what's the hardest/most complex role? Am I going to be bored to tears tanking? Couple of things: - You can and almost certainly should level a couple of jobs in parallel. You get the XP for it for free, sort of, and it helps with variation. For instance, you can tank dungeons on Marauder/Warrior and do overworld stuff (such as it is) on some DPS: I suggest Pugilist/Monk or Arcanist/Summoner from the early ones. Basically, when the game says "hey you can unlock jobs now", go unlock at least one job per town. Progress in the game is gated by story progress more than XP, there's basically no downside to switching your bars around every now and then as you go through it. - Coming in new I think there'll be enough things going on while tanking to keep you busy. Tanking is easy in the sense that you're the least likely to die or otherwise wipe the party, but it also throws a lot of stuff at you early on. You have to learn to manage mobs and pace dungeons, not just punch things. Coming from wow it shouldn't be hard, but it's probably more immediate cognitive load than the other roles. - 14's tanking is probably closer to warcraft retail than warcraft classic. You pick up some mobs, then do your aoes while cycling your defensive cooldowns in some hopefully sane way so your healer won't hate you. There are some cool survival tricks you can do, but just pulling your way through the dungeon is more straightforward than it is in any version of wow. Bosses can get quite tricky in comparison later on. Early dungeon bosses are often very, very simple: leveling to 50 and finishing A Realm Reborn is really a lengthy tutorial, for better or worse. - When people are saying that the dungeons are basically corridors, that's not strictly true for the stuff at or before level 50. That said, the path is usually simple compared to retail warcraft, nevermind stuff like Blackrock Depths. There is far less emphasis on patrols and on CC management: skippable mob packs are rare early on and nonexistent later, stuns and interrupts exist but people rarely use them. Your default strategy is going to be to run to a mob pack, aoe 1-2 times, run to the next mob pack, press a mitigation button and do the murder. If taking 2 packs was easy then take 3 packs next if the dungeon will let you (often there are walls). - As for the other roles: DPS have the more involved actual DPS rotation, but have nothing else to do and have the least impact on anything. Healers are different from wow in that it's very easy to keep people alive, and the difference between good and bad is how much damage you manage to output while doing the rest of your job. I'd argue that healer is the hardest role to play really well and also the role where you're punished the least for in fact not playing really well and instead just playing kinda mediocre, but then I am a healer main. If there's one point I really want to stress it is: level at least 2 jobs. Maybe even 3 or 4. You can do so on basically main quest XP, it adds variety, and if you don't like one job or role you'll have a back-up. It's a very common wow vet thing to go "well I don't want to waste XP on an alt", but that's really not how progress in 14 works. Xerophyte fucked around with this message at 19:24 on May 10, 2023 |
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May 10, 2023 19:22
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Leveling classes in FFXIV is piss easy and also can be done on one character. Also all classes are equality viable within their group of classes.
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May 10, 2023 19:37
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Xerophyte posted:If there's one point I really want to stress it is: level at least 2 jobs. Agreeing with this. It's probably less of an issue since you have MMO experience already, but having a job in every role helped me understand party dynamics a whole lot more than just doing my singular thing. I'd also agree that healer is the toughest to play at early levels, since you're the only person that has to pay attention to everything, but it flattens out at higher level play.
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May 10, 2023 19:39
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Healing also sucks at lower levels since all you can do is bomb people with your GCD heals, which then become nearly useless by the time you even finish the base game's story and remain so for the rest of the game.
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May 10, 2023 19:43
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DelphiAegis posted:Don't get discouraged and don't be afraid to say you're new in a dungeon/trial/whatever to get some friendly advice. Ffxiv players are chill as gently caress. It's helpful to know it's your first time though a thing, or you're new to tanking. In general but especially if I'm your healer so I turn on a few more brain cells
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May 10, 2023 20:48
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I pretty much open anything I’m new at with a “o/ first time here” or “o/ first time tanking this”. (The later is if I have run it before but I’ve never tanked it and I’m nervous.) I’ve never had anyone snippy about it.
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May 10, 2023 21:10
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The key thing is not to worry too much, dying doesn't matter. A very small number of people will get weird about it but if you pull too much and die you can just say "lol oops", respawn and do a smaller pull next time and people will be fine with that
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May 10, 2023 21:16
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As a RDM/SMN I appreciate people dying cause rezzing as DPS makes me feel good.
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May 10, 2023 21:20
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Most of the early dungeons don't even need actual tanking so if you're learning and screw up it's not a big deal. I tanked a Satasha roulette as a Bard last night because our actual tank was some Brazilian troll who wouldn't turn on tank stance or use any abilities.
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May 10, 2023 21:26
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If you die on a big pull you should type in party chat ". . . . Ascians!" for a laugh
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May 10, 2023 21:34
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Sometimes you eat poo poo and it's fine. 90% of the time if we wipe my basic response is "lmao" did the sprout tank gently caress up? Probably! It happens! Did the healer gently caress up? Also possible! Did I, the Summoner, forget that I can revive people? Yea. We've missed, like, two minutes.
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May 10, 2023 21:35
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The Gubal (Hard) run where I (healer) and the dps kept getting aggro through the whole thing, but w/e it's fine probably just a new GNB. Then right before we go into the last boss the tank says "oh my god, I'm sorry, I had the lvl 1 Squall GNB actually equipped rather than just glam'd" We all had a big laugh because it's just a video game
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May 10, 2023 21:46
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Chillgamesh posted:Healing also sucks at lower levels since all you can do is bomb people with your GCD heals, which then become nearly useless by the time you even finish the base game's story and remain so for the rest of the game. Speaking of leveling healers: Conjurer/White Mage, Arcanist/Scholar, and Astrologian all start out with a heal that you need to cast. As soon as you hit 30 and unlock the relevant jobs, just take those spells and shunt them to the parts of your hotbars that you never use, because the healing spells you get at 30 are pound-for-pound better in pretty much every way. There’s a passive effect that gives you a 15% chance for your starting heal to make your next level 30 heal free, but it’s never worth it.
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May 10, 2023 21:57
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Freecure should honestly be removed from the game.
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May 10, 2023 22:01
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My number 1 7.0 WHM rework desire is: Remove Freecure. For a bonus they can make Cure 1 upgrade to Cure 2 but I really just want them to get rid of Freecure.
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Regalingualius posted:Speaking of leveling healers: Conjurer/White Mage, Arcanist/Scholar, and Astrologian all start out with a heal that you need to cast. I'm usually have all my healers maxed out as soon as possible and don't take them into leveling roulettes after that. One of my first roulettes after the Endwalker release started with a wipe because it turns out that Cure1 is the only heal you have in Sastasha. So don't put that button too far away 
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May 10, 2023 22:12
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I would be shocked if the next expansion wasn't Meracydia and it would honestly be pretty easy to bridge the end of the 6.x story into it but they don't necessarily have to tie the two together. But the writing is 100% on the wall.
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May 10, 2023 23:25
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We beat up Golbez and he becomes our bro, but then he takes off on a joyride with the moon and 7.0 is an interstellar romp to get our dang moon back.
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May 10, 2023 23:29
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Firebert posted:I would be shocked if the next expansion wasn't Meracydia and it would honestly be pretty easy to bridge the end of the 6.x story into it but they don't necessarily have to tie the two together. But the writing is 100% on the wall. I know people keep thinking Zero will become Zeromus but I like the theory that Golbez is actually a puppet of Azdaja and she becomes Zeromus. Alternatively, we beat Golbez and Azdaja goes berzerk, trying to control Zero and merging them into Zeromus and then we have to beat everyone up until they are our friends again. And then Azdaja leads the charge into Meracydia.
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May 10, 2023 23:33
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We go to Meracydia for 7.0 but leave Estinien behind for some bizarre reason.
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May 11, 2023 00:03
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We already had one moon be revealed to actually be the prison for a mega powerful primal No one would ever expect it happening again
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May 11, 2023 00:10
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Regalingualius posted:We already had one moon be revealed to actually be the prison for a mega powerful primal it is weird that it happened twice
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May 11, 2023 00:29
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I want to go explore outer space with the moon Although I don't want to kill all the whales and poo poo that need gravity and tidal forces to not die...
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May 11, 2023 00:56
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^^It'd be kinda neat for one of the new arc's expansions to be IN SPAAAACE, I think.Mordiceius posted:I know people keep thinking Zero will become Zeromus but I like the theory that Golbez is actually a puppet of Azdaja and she becomes Zeromus. Zero becoming Zeromus is the exact sort of obviously predictable thing that the FFXIV writers love to set up and then swerve away from. I have to assume that anyone who has played through the game to this point and still thinks that's what's actually going to happen is banking on the writers pulling it as a double misdirection, like a football coach trying too hard to throw off an opposing coach who has lots of film of their team. Using Azdaja somehow as a bridge to Meracydia is pretty likely. Theris fucked around with this message at 01:03 on May 11, 2023 |
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Regalingualius posted:We already had one moon be revealed to actually be the prison for a mega powerful primal Both moons were.
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i have no idea who zeromus is so i'm just looking forward to being friends with zero forever
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