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Weka posted:I'm guessing he means a relatively small border conflict not Mumbai by Christmas. Look I generally try to understand people's arguments and points of view, but in this case the most important fact is simply that Noah Smith is a gargantuan moron
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May 10, 2023 23:30
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wasn’t he some anime nerd that was some newspaper’s asia correspondent bc they didn’t have a China office and then decided it meant he was also a China expert
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May 10, 2023 23:39
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has China or India ever invaded the other.
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May 10, 2023 23:42
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euphronius posted:has China or India ever invaded the other. come on dude
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May 10, 2023 23:47
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euphronius posted:has China or India ever invaded the other. the whole subcontinent has been invading the landmass for millions of years, read a book MORON
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May 10, 2023 23:47
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they keep having fistfights in the himalayas and there was a pretty low scale border war in the 60s, i think the qing also fought a couple of low scale border wars in the tibetan frontier, and that might be it? Invading across the himalayas is a huge pain in the rear end and both places have generally had better things to do
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May 10, 2023 23:49
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my dad posted:From my experience, Chinese tourists mostly just stare at their phones at McDonalds and gawk at things, which is, uh, standard tourist stuff honestly. I can't think of a way they stand out from the rest of non-Balkans tourists (outside of speaking Chinese obv) Well obviously they wouldn’t stand out in Serbia cus it’s also authoritarian.
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May 10, 2023 23:54
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/craighooper/2023/05/04/australia-and-the-us-must-combine-their-heavymedium-landing-ship-programs/ Yet another subversion of Australia's military planning. They're hard and fast this year. Arguably Australia has been so bad at managing it historically this is a mercy. I am however wondering if the eventual endgame is replacing the emu & kangaroo with more stars and stripes or whether a technical legal distinction will remain useful.
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May 10, 2023 23:55
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Weka posted:I'm guessing he means a relatively small border conflict not Mumbai by Christmas. China doesn't need to Invade Pakistan or India, it controls Tibet which means they control the headwaters for almost every major river in the surrounding countries. They've already won.
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May 10, 2023 23:58
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euphronius posted:has China or India ever invaded the other. what do you think op
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May 10, 2023 23:58
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Nah Qing dynasty never had border conflict with India but British did send an army to Tibet. However Qing Emperor did have influence as far as Leh city in modern day Pakistan. To have a conflict to begin with in the 60s Mao had to send tons of material ahead of time up to Tibet from the Indian side (thru Bay of Bengal/calcutta route). Afterward the road was built so China could resupply Tibet from the Qinghai side.
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May 10, 2023 23:59
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https://twitter.com/ElbridgeColby/status/1656309716354572289
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May 11, 2023 00:05
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eh, the qing and the sikh empires fought a war, and there were essentially firefights all the time since the late 50s until the 1990s.
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May 11, 2023 00:06
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Grapplejack posted:China doesn't need to Invade Pakistan or India, it controls Tibet which means they control the headwaters for almost every major river in the surrounding countries. They've already won. Rivers don't come out of faucet, so the physical location of a river's headwaters means very little. The "discourse" about Himalayan water wars is mainly scaremongering.
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May 11, 2023 00:10
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DancingShade posted:https://www.forbes.com/sites/craighooper/2023/05/04/australia-and-the-us-must-combine-their-heavymedium-landing-ship-programs/ The emu and kangaroo both have specialized tactical roles and are a unique strategic resource of Australia, if they go then it's all over
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May 11, 2023 00:11
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hm i don't like that guy
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May 11, 2023 00:13
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The unspoken bit here is that the US won't let TSMC fall into Chinese hands even if Taiwan peacefully reintegrates.
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May 11, 2023 00:23
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but we have israel at home
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May 11, 2023 00:25
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These loving morons.... the analogy doesn't even make sense. If the Taiwanese want to burn TSMC to the ground, it's their loving decision. It doesn't mean the Americans can talk about burning down TSMC. I love that these morons can't even see the difference and keep speaking the quiet part aloud.
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May 11, 2023 00:25
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I wonder if taiwan has been watching the ukraine debacle and deciding that suicide bombing their enemy for the sake of someone else's empire isn't really a good deal
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May 11, 2023 00:38
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america is the goebbels murdering their own children in the final days of the third reich
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May 11, 2023 01:14
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Mao claimed China and India had fought one and a half wars, the first war was during Tang Dynasty when a joint force of Chinese and Tibetans attacked the Harsha kingdom through Chumbi Pass between Sikkim and Nepal. The ‘half war’ was the one fought by Tamerlane against Delhi Sultanate in 1398, counting as half a war because China was ruled by the Mongols at the time. Grapplejack posted:China doesn't need to Invade Pakistan or India, it controls Tibet which means they control the headwaters for almost every major river in the surrounding countries. They've already won. Headwaters and catchment are two very different things. For instance the Lhasa river flows at an average of 335 m^3/s and the Brahamaputra at 19,824 m^3/a. I think the former is the biggest flow they control out of the Ganges basin. 
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May 11, 2023 01:48
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If Mao says China and India have fought one and a half wars, and Mao is 70% correct, how many wars have they fought?
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May 11, 2023 01:55
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1.05 wars. we lose the big 1 but did get a W on the 0.05 like a consolation prize.
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May 11, 2023 02:02
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Weka posted:Mao claimed China and India had fought one and a half wars, the first war was during Tang Dynasty when a joint force of Chinese and Tibetans attacked the Harsha kingdom through Chumbi Pass between Sikkim and Nepal. the brahmaputra/tsangpo is very ugly on a map
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May 11, 2023 02:15
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Tankbuster posted:1.05 wars. we lose the big 1 but did get a W on the 0.05 like a consolation prize. Consider that it could also be 2.14 wars
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May 11, 2023 02:24
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Huh Tamerlane ruled Afghanistan during the time china was ruled by the Ming How does that make him chinese
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May 11, 2023 02:43
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crispyseaweed posted:https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1655882866511806466 lol at them interviewing the equivalent of helen lovejoy and home owners' association cranks and presenting them as representative also lol:
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May 11, 2023 02:45
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lol oh no people on a cheap vacation anything but that HK's prestige is in shambles shambles
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May 11, 2023 02:48
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Throatwarbler posted:Huh northern yuan were still hanging around in (both inner and outer) mongolia
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May 11, 2023 02:51
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ModernMajorGeneral posted:
lol most likely situation is that the budget tour bus stopped off at a rest stop and gave out some cup noodles as lunch on tour up the hills stop giving any credence to the reports of HKers being disgusted with mainlanders, it's basically mild NYC-NJtownies social friction that was egged on and exaggerated by shitheads like jimmy lai and apple daily
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May 11, 2023 02:56
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DancingShade posted:https://www.forbes.com/sites/craighooper/2023/05/04/australia-and-the-us-must-combine-their-heavymedium-landing-ship-programs/ it's so hilarious that the official logo/slogan for the australia - us relationship is basically a kangaroo being hosed by an eagle
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May 11, 2023 03:10
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Grapplejack posted:China doesn't need to Invade Pakistan or India, it controls Tibet which means they control the headwaters for almost every major river in the surrounding countries. They've already won. iirc the vast majority of the water in india comes from clouds colliding with the mountains which i don't think even the infrastructure power of the belt and road could change
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May 11, 2023 03:21
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crepeface posted:iirc the vast majority of the water in india comes from clouds colliding with the mountains which i don't think even the infrastructure power of the belt and road could change Yeah the Weather Control Device is an Allied superweapon
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May 11, 2023 03:52
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gradenko_2000 posted:Yeah the Weather Control Device is an Allied superweapon it's a russian weapon!
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May 11, 2023 04:35
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crepeface posted:it's so hilarious that the official logo/slogan for the australia - us relationship is basically a kangaroo being hosed by an eagle Lmao how is this real
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May 11, 2023 05:12
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2mates1ship
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May 11, 2023 05:20
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think it was always a hop skip and a jump from kabul to the khyber pass and into the highly populated indo gangetic plains in the punjab and beyond. The Sikh empire finally stopped the incessant raiding and the brits had the organization to keep the passes staffed on a permanent basis.
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May 11, 2023 05:26
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1stGear posted:The unspoken bit here is that the US won't let TSMC fall into Chinese hands even if Taiwan peacefully reintegrates. USA: If China won't attack Taiwan we'll do it ourselves!
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May 11, 2023 08:57
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DancingShade posted:USA: If China won't attack Taiwan we'll do it ourselves! 
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