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Tai posted:I loving love reading tankies talk about 2014 coup and just missing out all the key parts of it to suit w/e hosed up poo poo swirls around their brains. Technically it wasn't even really a coup since the government booted out the president for renegging on government voting yes for EU intergration. The president literally got into a helicopter and flew away to another country abandoning his job He also had a golden loaf of bread, a private zoo and kitschy poo poo like that, a complete idiot oligarch that anyone with some functional braincells cheered on getting rid of
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May 11, 2023 23:18
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HonorableTB posted:This is absolutely not happening. beer_war posted:Where are you reading these unconfirmed reports? I'm just posting this as the source of those unconfirmed reports since you asked, I do not think it's true and have no idea the veracity of this person. I'd love to speculate about why Ukraine would do that or what it would look like but this random twitter post is what I'm seeing cited in a few places in reference to Belgorod. https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1656751810537746480?s=20
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May 11, 2023 23:22
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I wonder if this is the counter offense or just a localised russia collapse.
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May 11, 2023 23:24
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People have been saying for months that Russia was starting to over extend in that area and they really should have stopped advancing. Yeah it looks like they are starting to cut off the Ukrainian forces but with their manpower issues in order to do that they got spread so thin that Ukraine can pretty much choose where they breakthrough once they get stuff kicked off
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May 11, 2023 23:24
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quote:https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1656739972081152027?s=20 Call me crazy but communicating up the chain of command via social media to showcase your disharmony probably isn't a good idea for a military. But what do I know?
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May 11, 2023 23:27
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Tai posted:I wonder if this is the counter offense or just a localised russia collapse.
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May 11, 2023 23:29
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Rectal Death Adept posted:I'm just posting this as the source of those unconfirmed reports since you asked, I do not think it's true and have no idea the veracity of this person. Lol of course they accuse Ukraine of using chemical weapons after they just used a poo poo ton of gas attacks last week
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May 11, 2023 23:29
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 I hope this means they publicly recovered something interesting. Broke down, abandoned, and only slightly on fire.
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May 11, 2023 23:30
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HonorableTB posted:Most of the really good copium is gonna be mined from telegram, tbh. Indeed.   
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May 11, 2023 23:31
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Not wrong about the UK economy.
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May 11, 2023 23:36
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 Rybar doesn't make much more sense in Russian than he does in English but this is particularly lol
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May 11, 2023 23:37
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deported to Canada posted:Absolutely, this happens all the time in war, see Operation Mincemeat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mincemeat Every time I think about Mincemeat, I think about how weird it must have been for those coroners who had to find the body to use. Also, LOL that the guy they used was going to be rejected because he wasn't fit enough for a field officer and they were like "Well then he's not a field officer, but a staff officer pencil-pusher."
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May 11, 2023 23:40
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NihilCredo posted:Indeed. 
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May 11, 2023 23:40
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Now that the soviets are at the gates of Berlin we can funnel them into Konigsplatz . Also our cyanide pill driven economy will GROW
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May 11, 2023 23:45
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Ukraine could be besieging the Kremlin and the Cope would be about how the glorious RA will strike back from its DOOM FORTRESS in Outer Siberia
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May 11, 2023 23:48
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At this point when you say Modern I don't know if that means something like a T-14 or a tank that might have seen action in their war in Afghanistan rather than WWII
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May 11, 2023 23:54
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https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1656757866668126229
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May 11, 2023 23:58
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May 12, 2023 00:03
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https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1656724676394074112 The braggarts have even lost the use of their lancets.
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May 12, 2023 00:15
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zone posted:https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1656724676394074112 "saved lives" how about you get the gently caress out of Ukraine and save even more.
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May 12, 2023 00:31
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It's been brought up here before, but it looks like the one oppo guy dropped out in Turkey after a deepfake sex tape of him was released. May give the main guy a chance if those votes flow to him.
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May 12, 2023 00:37
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https://twitter.com/FirstSquawk/status/1656752002917888021?t=_D1n4YsHGs_FxHZVdbKXGA&s=19 Apparently there seem to be breakthroughs along various parts of the front line.
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May 12, 2023 00:45
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Oscar Wilde Bunch posted:It's been brought up here before, but it looks like the one oppo guy dropped out in Turkey after a deepfake sex tape of him was released. May give the main guy a chance if those votes flow to him. is it a good tape?
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May 12, 2023 00:52
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I may just be a guy who doesn't know anything about this sort of thing, but this screen shot, to me, gives away the cope game that this poster is playing. Throwing Wagner under the bus and dismissing them all as worthless, desposible degenerates is absolutely not something you would do if your side was winning. You'd be hailing them as heroes if they were contributing to some grand victory.
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May 12, 2023 00:54
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Is it possible the push back in Bakhmut isn't the start of the big counter offensive? I know nothing of military, so while I understand that you don't mobilize without orders is it possible that regaining parts of Bakhmut is its own separate thing taking advantage of the situation?
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May 12, 2023 00:58
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Shinjobi posted:Is it possible the push back in Bakhmut isn't the start of the big counter offensive? These are just opportunistic counterattacks at the local level. They saw chances and exploited them but it's not the main thing. When that kicks off it will be very apparent
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May 12, 2023 00:59
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Tai posted:I loving love reading tankies talk about 2014 coup and just missing out all the key parts of it to suit w/e hosed up poo poo swirls around their brains. Technically it wasn't even really a coup since the government booted out the president for renegging on government voting yes for EU intergration. I saw this on a discord and it just blows my mind the complete falsehood, half-truth and rewriting history: "Yanukovych had the option between taking an IMF loan & destroying Ukraine's pensions, or taking a Russian loan & not doing that (but obviously becoming closer to a russian satellite state), he chose the latter, and so a revolution occurred in which trade unionists were burned alive in a building (which more recent Ukrainian officials & militias still cutely refer to, usually as a BBQ) and the administration replaced with a guy who privatized basically everything" Like, how many things can someone get wrong or just plain lie about in one sentence. lol Especially the subtle attempt to somehow turn pro-Russian plants and agitators into poor trade union!!! workers  instead of what they were and what actually happened and how they literally burned themselves to death because they were morons camping a government building
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May 12, 2023 01:06
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Shinjobi posted:Is it possible the push back in Bakhmut isn't the start of the big counter offensive? Yes, I think that's likely. It's sometimes said that ideally, your feints should be not only indistinguishable from your real attacks, but you should be able to turn one into the other if the situation turns for or against. Not that I think the Bakhmut attacks are in that feint-unless class, but I mean to say that I expect the start of the big counteroffensive to be unidentifiable until there's suddenly a big territory gain, rather than slowly grinding a line into nothing and then marching over it.
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May 12, 2023 01:09
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Shinjobi posted:Is it possible the push back in Bakhmut isn't the start of the big counter offensive? It's most likely Bakhmut is opportunistic and not the actual big counter. It's pretty clear Russian / Wagner forces are no longer in any condition to fight on
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May 12, 2023 01:10
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Cthulu Carl posted:Every time I think about Mincemeat, I think about how weird it must have been for those coroners who had to find the body to use. I didn't know the person had been identified. I learned about this operation in one of my favorite books as a kid. I forget the name but it was a huge book on espionage and special ops. in WWII. Nothing held back: gory pictures, molotov recipes, the works. And I at like 7 could just read it and nobody would stop me. Really taught me the value of my local library.
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May 12, 2023 01:17
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Shinjobi posted:Is it possible the push back in Bakhmut isn't the start of the big counter offensive? Opportunistic attack. The local forces wore themselves out and were spread too thin. Ukrainians are exploiting it to regain territory.
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May 12, 2023 01:28
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:It's pretty clear Russian / Wagner forces are no longer in any condition to fight on
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May 12, 2023 01:31
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HonorableTB posted:These are just opportunistic counterattacks at the local level. They saw chances and exploited them but it's not the main thing. When that kicks off it will be very apparent Cool, that's what I figured but it never hurts to ask
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May 12, 2023 01:34
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Huh, I wonder why they don't have the manpower to probe enemy lines anymore. 
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May 12, 2023 01:53
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Deki posted:Huh, I wonder why they don't have the manpower to probe enemy lines anymore. At the rate things are going, they won't have any manpower worth mentioning at all if another flood of mobiks doesn't get sent up soonish. Strelkov was already begging last month to everyone he could think of to find another 300,000 mobiks from anywhere possible to shore up the front, because the manpower advantage from the last mooooobilization was already gone.
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May 12, 2023 01:58
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I may not have an armchair, but I can still pretend to be a general. I feel like the funniest possible feint would be using some of those new long-range missiles to completely destroy the Kursk Bridge and start a little fight at the border of Crimea and then of course begin the actual offensive literally anywhere else once Russia thinks they know what is happening
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May 12, 2023 02:12
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Dr. Quarex posted:I may not have an armchair, but I can still pretend to be a general. I feel like the funniest possible feint would be using some of those new long-range missiles to completely destroy the Kursk Bridge and start a little fight at the border of Crimea and then of course begin the actual offensive literally anywhere else once Russia thinks they know what is happening Sorry, no, not allowed for non-armchair-havers.
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May 12, 2023 02:14
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Somaen posted:The president literally got into a helicopter and flew away to another country abandoning his job Let he who hasn't siphoned off the wealth of his nation in order to build a life-sized spanish galleon on his private lake cast the fist stone 
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May 12, 2023 02:27
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Today's daily ISW is drumming war drums: https://understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-may-11-2023
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May 12, 2023 02:54
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Turrurrurrurrrrrrr posted:Today's daily ISW is drumming war drums: https://understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-may-11-2023 Keep in mind ISW's recent trend towards sensationalism and use of loosely sourced/biased sources that has happened as the war has progressed. They got bit by the engagement bug I'm afraid. Not to say they aren't still useful, just keep that in mind that they may sensationalize things a bit more than what's really happening Edit: lmao look at this delusional poo poo, pure copium from peskov: Peskov posted:Kremlin Spokesperson Dmitry Peskov contradicted the pre-war Kremlin justifications for the war by asserting that the Russian “special military operation” began as “a conflict between Russia and Ukraine.” He said that Russia has “partially” achieved the goals of “protecting” people in Donbas,[9] but added that Russia is still far from fully achieving these goals. He said that it was ”hard to believe” at the beginning of the war that NATO, the United States, and European countries would ”intervene in this conflict.” ISW previously reported that the Kremlin has begun to shift its domestic narratives to claim that Russia is fighting only against NATO in an effort to set informational conditions for potential Russian military failures during the planned Ukrainian counteroffensive.[10] Peskov’s statement is consistent with the new Russian narrative but contradicts Russian President Vladimir Putin’s statements prior to the February 24, 2022 invasion. Putin stated on February 21, 2022, that Russia is ”not fighting the Ukrainian people” and claimed that Ukraine had become a hostage of its ”Western masters.”[11] The Russian pre-war justification for the invasion relied heavily on portraying a NATO threat to Russia supposedly emanating from Ukraine.[12] HonorableTB fucked around with this message at 03:15 on May 12, 2023 |
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