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hark: I'm sleep

alexandriao posted:

In the last ten years my linux experience has gone from "Oh, I'm missing wifi drivers in Ubuntu, better use Arch Linux", to, "I can play all the same games my Windows friends do with minimal tweaks, and everything the OS needs to do works out of the box", it's honestly just astonishing how much progress there's been and I'm looking forward with hopeful eyes to the next ten years

I was thinking about this the other day. I remember when I wasn't even proficient enough to use Linux at all, and now I largely wouldn't even need to be because of how many user friendly distros there are and how far they've all come. it's nice.

# ? May 12, 2023 22:44

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# ? May 24, 2024 05:46

Saoshyant

Yeah, Valve's work (and money) is really appreciated. They have done a lot for one of the big, final obstacles in Linux Desktop... gaming.

Multiple screens, laptop suspending, and font rendering still need to be worked on seriously, though.

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# ? May 12, 2023 22:46

nesamdoom: nesaM kiled Masen

Haven't done a fresh install in years. I'm really hoping I didn't just break whatever partitioning insanity I had going on in 2018. Worst case scenario, I know I still didn't format my home partition, so can't have messed anything up I can't fix.

https://i.imgur.com/1qBoiAi.mp4

# ? May 13, 2023 23:55

nesamdoom: nesaM kiled Masen

Haha, I knocked the usb out during install. I'm so bad at this these days. Also, forgot to grab some of my configs so should be nice relearning how to set up some of the stuff. Hoping Nvidia doesn't give me a huge headache with firejail again.

# ? May 14, 2023 00:33

hark: I'm sleep

nesamdoom posted:

Haha, I knocked the usb out during install. I'm so bad at this these days. Also, forgot to grab some of my configs so should be nice relearning how to set up some of the stuff. Hoping Nvidia doesn't give me a huge headache with firejail again.

I had debian running on my laptop and had 2 external monitors also, and when I tried to install Nvidia drivers to utilize the laptops 3070ti, it broke my ability to use both displays. it would detect them and I could switch between, but it never let me use both simultaneously. couldn't ever get it figured out.

# ? May 14, 2023 00:36

nesamdoom: nesaM kiled Masen

hark posted:

I had debian running on my laptop and had 2 external monitors also, and when I tried to install Nvidia drivers to utilize the laptops 3070ti, it broke my ability to use both displays. it would detect them and I could switch between, but it never let me use both simultaneously. couldn't ever get it figured out.

I never could get hdmi or dpi to go out. Upside was the VGA was on intel so I still can watch movies on second. But I'm already getting annoyed at stuff. Did the install and bios will only see a different drive for boot.
Haha. I should have left it alone.

https://i.imgur.com/1qBoiAi.mp4

# ? May 14, 2023 00:58

hark: I'm sleep

nesamdoom posted:

I never could get hdmi or dpi to go out. Upside was the VGA was on intel so I still can watch movies on second. But I'm already getting annoyed at stuff. Did the install and bios will only see a different drive for boot.
Haha. I should have left it alone.

good luck and/or r.i.p. to your installation

# ? May 14, 2023 01:09

nesamdoom: nesaM kiled Masen

hark posted:

good luck and/or r.i.p. to your installation

I'm alil annoyed at this point. I probably should have been drinking for this. It installed and I remembered how to switch drive boot order. not sure why my drives are listed differently than they always have been and I'm gonna call it a tomorrow problem.

# ? May 14, 2023 01:45

alexandriao

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIA

Too much is always not enough!

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# ? May 14, 2023 17:27

nesamdoom: nesaM kiled Masen

I just found out about castero and I'm so happy. I might set my stereo back up the way it was. Old laptop plugged to wire split to main and receiver running cmus in tmux so I could connect from anything to play music. And I had a thing to SSH in from browser. Anyways, I can listen to podcasts on my computer now without having to get up when an episode ends and only in a slightly more ridiculous way than just using the phone or tablet to play them in an app.

https://i.imgur.com/1qBoiAi.mp4

# ? May 15, 2023 03:51

hark: I'm sleep

nesamdoom posted:

I just found out about castero and I'm so happy. I might set my stereo back up the way it was. Old laptop plugged to wire split to main and receiver running cmus in tmux so I could connect from anything to play music. And I had a thing to SSH in from browser. Anyways, I can listen to podcasts on my computer now without having to get up when an episode ends and only in a slightly more ridiculous way than just using the phone or tablet to play them in an app.

ooh this sounds interesting. I'm gonna look into it when I get home from the salt mines today.

# ? May 15, 2023 11:58

sb hermit

cruft posted:

This reminds me of the time I read a post on the amateur radio version of stack exchange, where someone was like "boy I'd really like to know what frequency the army used in morse code training in the 1940s", so I did a bunch of research, found some recordings, pitch-matched the frequency to within 1 cent, and posted a reply... then got rejected because I didn't have enough reputation points. So I posted it as an answer, and some admin chewed my rear end because I didn't post a reply. I said "I tried but I don't have enough reputation" and then they chewed my rear end with instructions on how to answer a bunch of other poo poo I had no interest in, in order to build enough reputation to post the FOUR-FREAKING-DIGIT FREQUENCY in the right place.

So I just deleted the answer.

MAN I AM SALTY ABOUT THE INTERNET RIGHT NOW!

I have created a few Gentoo packages when I was doing sysadmin work at a research lab (back in the early 2000s when recompiling everything made sense) and I already knew that I didn't want to bother with joining the community to submit them. So I gave them to a co-worker that e-mailed them to someone to "own" the packages although they mentioned my name in the documentation. Which is nice.

# ? May 16, 2023 08:40

sb hermit

Anyways, hugo looks like fun so I'll probably try it out. I also want to try svelte, which was highly recommended to me by some UI people, because it's much less heavyweight than the modern web frameworks like react and angular.

# ? May 16, 2023 08:42

nesamdoom: nesaM kiled Masen

So Parrot killed it's 32bit support and I learned this after scrubbing the working one with Nvidia and steam.
Decided to just try some stuff in the 70GB partition I've not used in years.
Gave Garuda a try because it had some support. I dig the installer and it's the same Parrot uses so it's pretty easy install. Then it's like a unicorn threw up into everything. But ricing arch install until I got a perfect I3+fluxbox for myself taught me a bit of patience and I powered through turning it into black, greys, white, and red. That sorted and I went to get things set up, but for whatever reason it wanted to run at 90°+ and once things were installed all optirun managed was pushing vram to the card. Which I suppose was ok because I'm assuming actually processing anything would have melted my poor laptop.
Onto today, I replaced Garuda with Drauger. Nice reasonable installer(I think they did themselves). Xfce so a quick bit of changing panels and it's functional. Pretty bare on stuff that came with it. But I got vim, zsh, and a couple things set up. Working on drivers, but it's at least running at 40° with YouTube and some things running.
Since steam is done with Win7 at end of year I'm hoping to get a decently running setup on Linux by then without the headache of having to hammer random packages together.

https://i.imgur.com/1qBoiAi.mp4

# ? May 22, 2023 23:34

nesamdoom: nesaM kiled Masen

Might have kicked my own balls. Something in Garuda or Drauger wrote boot to the main partition on one of my drives. That's probably bad.
Weird. Windows chdsk seems to have fixed it.
I'm not drunk enough for this poo poo.
On the other hand, I am pretty happy about copying loads of configs right from my main ~ to the one on the new install. Frig having to actually put in that effort. All seems to be going along well so I'm gonna get some more stuff set up.

https://i.imgur.com/1qBoiAi.mp4

# ? May 23, 2023 02:43

sb hermit

nesamdoom posted:

I'm not drunk enough for this poo poo.

if I'm working on my personal computers, I'm not typing sudo without a drink in my hand

# ? May 23, 2023 03:34

nesamdoom: nesaM kiled Masen

sb hermit posted:

if I'm working on my personal computers, I'm not typing sudo without a drink in my hand

I knew I wasn't the only one.

https://i.imgur.com/1qBoiAi.mp4

# ? May 23, 2023 12:51

nesamdoom: nesaM kiled Masen

Finally got a way to be less annoyed with my hotspot changing IP when I restart phone.

code:

prox() {
    export {ftp_proxy,https_proxy,HTTP_PROXY}=http://192.168.$1:8585
}

update_proxy_address() {
ipv4_gateway=$(ip route | grep default | awk '{ print $3 }' | cut -d'.' -f 3,4)
  export ftp_proxy=http://192.168.$ipv4_gateway:8585
  export http_proxy=http://192.168.$ipv4_gateway:8585
  export https_proxy=http://192.168.$ipv4_gateway:8585
}

code:

#!/bin/bash

ipv4_gateway=$(ip route | grep default | awk '{ print $3 }')

echo "function FindProxyForURL(url, host) {
     return 'SOCKS $ipv4_gateway:1081; PROXY $ipv4_gateway:8585; DIRECT';
}" > ~/proxy.pac

Was very lazy for a long time and finally was tired of doing more stuff to avoid having to do a small bit.
E: Oh yea, I use a proxy server on my phone to max my speed.

nesamdoom fucked around with this message at 22:09 on May 31, 2023

https://i.imgur.com/1qBoiAi.mp4

# ? May 31, 2023 21:59

cruft

nesamdoom posted:

Finally got a way to be less annoyed with my hotspot changing IP when I restart phone.
code:
prox() {
    export {ftp_proxy,https_proxy,HTTP_PROXY}=http://192.168.$1:8585
}

update_proxy_address() {
ipv4_gateway=$(ip route | grep default | awk '{ print $3 }' | cut -d'.' -f 3,4)
  export ftp_proxy=http://192.168.$ipv4_gateway:8585
  export http_proxy=http://192.168.$ipv4_gateway:8585
  export https_proxy=http://192.168.$ipv4_gateway:8585
}
&
code:
#!/bin/bash

ipv4_gateway=$(ip route | grep default | awk '{ print $3 }')

echo "function FindProxyForURL(url, host) {
     return 'SOCKS $ipv4_gateway:1081; PROXY $ipv4_gateway:8585; DIRECT';
}" > ~/proxy.pac
Was very lazy for a long time and finally was tired of doing more stuff to avoid having to do a small bit.
E: Oh yea, I use a proxy server on my phone to max my speed.

I did something like this with tinyproxy and post-ifup triggers. The advantage I have is no bash shenanigans, I just always proxy through localhost:1313 and tinyproxy gets reloaded whenever I need to modify what upstream is.

# ? May 31, 2023 22:49

nesamdoom: nesaM kiled Masen

cruft posted:

I did something like this with tinyproxy and post-ifup triggers. The advantage I have is no bash shenanigans, I just always proxy through localhost:1313 and tinyproxy gets reloaded whenever I need to modify what upstream is.

I figured I'd just add both to my rc since the first thing my computer does is open terminator. You have a smarter sounding way. I'm just happy I didn't go with setting up a router just to make my proxy address static.

# ? May 31, 2023 23:31

Yuu Morisawa: Watch Creamy Mami

https://github.com/NsCDE/NsCDE/releases/tag/2.3

gently caress yeah

# ? Jun 17, 2023 03:05

Kaiser Schnitzel: Schnitzel mit uns

did anyone call y'all a bunch of freakin nerds yet

https://i.imgur.com/R8ctked.mp4
ty Manifisto for this wonderful sig!

# ? Jun 17, 2023 03:18

nesamdoom: nesaM kiled Masen

Yuu Morisawa posted:

https://github.com/NsCDE/NsCDE/releases/tag/2.3

gently caress yeah

Never heard of this before, but I like. It reminds me of 90s. I forgot tiling image backgrounds were a thing. I'm grabbing a copy and will figure out where to install it later.

Kaiser Schnitzel posted:

did anyone call y'all a bunch of freakin nerds yet

This nerd posted on the internet. ^

https://i.imgur.com/1qBoiAi.mp4

# ? Jun 17, 2023 03:37

cruft

My work laptop arrived. It has Windows. :cripes:

# ? Jun 17, 2023 14:06

nesamdoom: nesaM kiled Masen

cruft posted:

My work laptop arrived. It has Windows.

Silly pranksters. Always up to some shenanigans.

# ? Jun 17, 2023 14:31

Saoshyant

cruft posted:

My work laptop arrived. It has Windows.

Install Linux, problem solved!

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# ? Jun 17, 2023 16:36

Yuu Morisawa: Watch Creamy Mami

cruft posted:

My work laptop arrived. It has Windows.

gross

# ? Jun 18, 2023 10:22

cruft

I got a "Microsoft Secure Email" sent to me and it was a link, so I clicked the link, and then it was like "log in with your google account", so I did. Then it was like "log in with your google account", so I did. Then it was like "log in with your google account", so I did. Then it was like "log in with your google account" so I tried in incognito mode, and it was the same.

I mailed the IT person saying "hey could you send that to my gmail address, I think it wants the email address to be the same", and they replied by forwarding the secure message in plaintext email.

:cripes:

But hey now I have all my passwords.

# ? Jun 20, 2023 15:14

cruft

I have to wait until exactly 07:30 PST before I try to log in. The instructions are very clear about this.

So I have to figure out something to do for exactly 15 minutes.

# ? Jun 20, 2023 15:15

cruft

7 minutes to go... :ohdear:

# ? Jun 20, 2023 15:23

cruft

I'm in

# ? Jun 20, 2023 16:13

Saoshyant

cruft posted:

I'm in

Hackerman??

:mods:

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# ? Jun 20, 2023 16:42

Yuu Morisawa: Watch Creamy Mami

wooooooooo

# ? Jun 21, 2023 01:11

cruft

How in the heck am I supposed to install VSCode on this thing? You'd think Microsoft would make this show up in the store...

# ? Jun 22, 2023 00:08

nesamdoom: nesaM kiled Masen

Can you still use exe installers on windows or have they gunned them down yet?

https://i.imgur.com/1qBoiAi.mp4

# ? Jun 22, 2023 00:39

hark: I'm sleep

I always use vscodium just so I don't give MS any of that sweet sweet telemetry juice

# ? Jun 22, 2023 00:41

cruft

Okay, I was allowed to set up WSL, so now I'm rockin' Debian.

ChromeOS pulled this off better, but they're trying to hit a different target. What WSL does, and the way it does it, is pretty cool.

I guess I only have one native Linux box I admin at this point. Not counting the entire cloud at work.

# ? Jun 22, 2023 15:09

A Bad King: Suppose the oil man,
He comes to town.
And you don't lay money down.

Yet Mr. King,
He killed the thread
The other day.
Well I wonder.
Who's gonna go to Hell?

cruft posted:

Okay, I was allowed to set up WSL, so now I'm rockin' Debian.

ChromeOS pulled this off better, but they're trying to hit a different target. What WSL does, and the way it does it, is pretty cool.

I guess I only have one native Linux box I admin at this point. Not counting the entire cloud at work.

WSL 2 is so good that it is almost unbelievable that it's a Microsoft product.

I can utilize gui apps. I can run apps with hw gpu acceleration! I can even run docker containers! It's Debian, a real Debian distro with a real kernel! So neat.

# ? Jun 22, 2023 17:39

cruft

Yeah, I just got WSL2 working with Docker and the corporate VPN, all at once. Amazing. Now I'm loading web pages served by Hugo in a container.

Feeling pretty good about things right now. The Microsoft terminal emulator is even not horrible (the one you have to install, not the passable built-in one).

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# ? May 24, 2024 05:46

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It's hard for me to imagine my fellow BYOB posters using any kind of serious distro, so upon finding this thread for the first time I choose to believe you're all on Hannah Montana Linux.

# ? Jun 22, 2023 23:40

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