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Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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More like Finrod/Sauron the epic rap battle

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YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog
Silmarillion musical where the first song is the Ainulindalë and halfway through Melkor starts acting up in the orchestra so they kick him onto the scene

Shiroc
May 16, 2009

Sorry I'm late

Kaysette posted:

Movie Faramir and Denethor are just awful, such a bummer because I love them both in the books. I like the ride of the Rohirrim in the movies but the scene in the books where Eomer thinks Eowyn is dead sends shivers down my spine:

That's one of my favorite passages in the whole story. The shifts in morale and feeling through the entire Pelennor Fields chapter are incredible, Tolkien knew how to capture the idea of a battle that is constantly undecided as the initiative changes between the sides. I feel like the movie version basically lost all of that and it really brings it down for me.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Look at this kick rear end art

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

The lay of leithian is waiting to be made. It would have to be made by someone who loved it and not in any Hollywood / marvel mode (it will never be made )

Mike N Eich
Jan 27, 2007

This might just be the year

euphronius posted:

Look at this kick rear end art



drat, I didn't know Morgoth was so nice with it

cptn_dr
Sep 7, 2011

Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies


What are the best Middle-earth inspired songs/albums? Or, I guess, straight-up recordings of songs from the books?

I'm a fan of Adele McAllister's Lay of Luthien. It's pretty Filk-y, but I still like it a whole lot.

https://m.soundcloud.com/adelemcallister/the-song-of-beren-and-luthien

cptn_dr fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Apr 28, 2023

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog

cptn_dr posted:

What are the best Middle-earth inspired songs/albums? Or, I guess, straight-up recordings of songs from the books?

I'm a fan of Adele McAllister's Lay of Luthien. It's pretty Filk-y, but I still like it a whole lot.

https://m.soundcloud.com/adelemcallister/the-song-of-beren-and-luthien

Colin Rudd's a classic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pISzxdEgDCU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT5-ZLJTi0I

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

He also does a version of Tolkien’s “The Hoard”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoAZKQu_kQA

VictualSquid
Feb 29, 2012

Gently enveloping the target with indiscriminate love.

cptn_dr posted:

What are the best Middle-earth inspired songs/albums? Or, I guess, straight-up recordings of songs from the books?

I'm a fan of Adele McAllister's Lay of Luthien. It's pretty Filk-y, but I still like it a whole lot.

https://m.soundcloud.com/adelemcallister/the-song-of-beren-and-luthien

Pretty much anything by summoning.

ChubbyChecker
Mar 25, 2018

cptn_dr posted:

What are the best Middle-earth inspired songs/albums? Or, I guess, straight-up recordings of songs from the books?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdXQJS3Yv0Y

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

Shameful lack of Led Zeppelin in this thread.

quote:

The hard rock and classic metal band Led Zeppelin wrote several songs inspired by Tolkien's works including "The Battle of Evermore", "Misty Mountain Hop", and "Ramble On", (with debate about some parts of "Stairway to Heaven").

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

cptn_dr posted:

What are the best Middle-earth inspired songs/albums? Or, I guess, straight-up recordings of songs from the books?

I'm a fan of Adele McAllister's Lay of Luthien. It's pretty Filk-y, but I still like it a whole lot.

https://m.soundcloud.com/adelemcallister/the-song-of-beren-and-luthien

I assume everyone here knows Blind Guardian, but for either a new reader or maybe just someone who missed it, they made an entire album about the Silmarillion. Not many other places you can find a song about Eol or a victory song from Morgoth's perspective after the Nirnaeth Arnoediad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ1bbXUEweQ

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Nice cover art.

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

euphronius posted:

Nice cover art.

yeah its good

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

I think that is one of the only instances in Tolkien of a character being explicitly horny

One of the very few

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Tolkien's prudishness is both a good and bad thing because while the books not being filled with a bunch of horny nonsense is mostly a positive, even regular people do notice the sexlessness of it. its a major motivation of how people behave, and the lack of it eventually is noticeable.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Yeah I guess. I don’t know how sexy a 1800 mile walk through wilderness and hell is tho

OPAONI
Jul 23, 2021

WoodrowSkillson posted:

Tolkien's prudishness is both a good and bad thing because while the books not being filled with a bunch of horny nonsense is mostly a positive, even regular people do notice the sexlessness of it. its a major motivation of how people behave, and the lack of it eventually is noticeable.

Counterpoint: I don't think I've ever seen horny that wasn't cringe as gently caress in any genre fiction.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Morgoth being horny has a rather predictable outcome in that he satisfies himself and then falls asleep. The he wakes up and finds his one night stand stole his jewelry.

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

OPAONI posted:

Counterpoint: I don't think I've ever seen horny that wasn't cringe as gently caress in any genre fiction.

We should probably define horny since this started as a joke but i don't mean like, full on sex scenes, its the lack of topics like infidelity, jealousy, lust, etc. The consequences of the behavior of horny people

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

OPAONI posted:

Counterpoint: I don't think I've ever seen horny that wasn't cringe as gently caress in any genre fiction.

Mistress of Mistresses. All the horn is in hilarious Jacobean terms but somehow, still works

WoodrowSkillson posted:

We should probably define horny since this started as a joke but i don't mean like, full on sex scenes, its the lack of topics like infidelity, jealousy, lust, etc. The consequences of the behavior of horny people

Tolkien has his fair share of lust-caused disaster and jealousy. No adultery in middle-earth that I can think of though. There’s Aotrou and Itroun I guess.

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

skasion posted:

Mistress of Mistresses. All the horn is in hilarious Jacobean terms but somehow, still works

Tolkien has his fair share of lust-caused disaster and jealousy. No adultery in middle-earth that I can think of though. There’s Aotrou and Itroun I guess.

yeah buts its pretty tucked away. Again im not saying it is required, but it is noticeable and there is reason you can find jokes about it on twitter or wherever or people asking about elves loving because its kind of a natural outgrowth of reading a story about 6000 year old people with 1 kid

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog

love Morgoth's ugly pope crown

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

WoodrowSkillson posted:

yeah buts its pretty tucked away. Again im not saying it is required, but it is noticeable and there is reason you can find jokes about it on twitter or wherever or people asking about elves loving because its kind of a natural outgrowth of reading a story about 6000 year old people with 1 kid

At the risk of stating the obvious, Tolkien had a day job and a family and was published as a children’s author in a society where “obscenity” was a crime. Notably his more “adult” stories, Aldarion & Erendis, Beren & Luthien, Turin & Nienor etc were all posthumously published. Even if he had had the inclination to challenge post-Victorian sexual mores (doubtful, at least insofar as the chief of these was “don’t talk about it”), JRRT wasn’t about to spend the rest of his life getting blown the gently caress out by the establishment and/or self-exiling like D.H. Lawrence because his books made someone have a dirty thought (about elves).

Other early fantasy guys couldn’t get away with this kind of stuff either if they had any readership worth mentioning. Maybe Wells, but he was a progressive darling of the day so it’s not like he was losing much of an audience by being a colossal sex fiend (which barely comes through in most of his genre writing anyway). Cabell’s Jurgen was suppressed from publication for a couple years because of all the sex jokes. Guys like Lindsay or Eddison slipped under the radar because people didn’t read them. The fantasy pulps of early 20th c. are, often as not, extremely softcore porn advertised as such, but contemporary moralists didn’t care about individual examples because they were by and for the rabble.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice

cptn_dr posted:

What are the best Middle-earth inspired songs/albums? Or, I guess, straight-up recordings of songs from the books?

I'm a fan of Adele McAllister's Lay of Luthien. It's pretty Filk-y, but I still like it a whole lot.

https://m.soundcloud.com/adelemcallister/the-song-of-beren-and-luthien

Finrod the rock opera is a real thing, and it's incredible. It's in Russian, but the video has subtitles:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4kFQaTDJAk&t=4274s

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post

skasion posted:

Mistress of Mistresses. All the horn is in hilarious Jacobean terms but somehow, still works

Eddison also dodged the frequent fantasy bullet of writing embarrassingly crap poetry by nicking it off Elizabethans/Jacobeans instead. Smart man...

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Weird niche Tolkien opinion

I think the most human, relatable, and "real" moment of characterization in the entire canon is this bit:

quote:

But as they went down the path to the Crossings... Níniel said: 'Is this the way?' And Brandir answered that he knew no way, save to escape into the wild. But Níniel said: 'The Black Sword was my beloved and my husband. To seek him only do I go. What else could you think?' And she sped on before him.

That incredulous, horrified "What else could you think??" always sticks in my head.

A lot of the rest of the stuff, LotR and all, have a lot more on-the-ground personal-scale dialogue and character-building and repartee, but it always feels a little alien and 1930s somehow. This line though... whoof

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Arc Hammer posted:

Movie Theoden is pretty much perfect and Bernard Hill is a severely underrated actor.

The movies are seriously stacked with great actors that giving the best performance of their careers and yet there was only one acting nomination for the entire trilogy. Sean Bean was loving robbed:argh:

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

Does this excite you, girl?

Alhazred posted:

The movies are seriously stacked with great actors that giving the best performance of their careers and yet there was only one acting nomination for the entire trilogy. Sean Bean was loving robbed:argh:

:hmmyes:

Sean Astin too.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
I never got people who were really into the Bakshi thing because I remember seeing the Fellowship movie as a kid who was really into Tolkien and I thought it was some hot garbage.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
New Aragorn just dropped.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I like the Aragorn, dislike the warcraft fantasy paddle blade.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



keep punching joe posted:

New Aragorn just dropped.



I know they've got some gray in his hair and beard but I still think he should look older in the face. Good beard quantity though, imo.

Anyway y'all can go ahead and get down to the real business of speculating what random dudes with 10 Twitter followers are going to say about this image now, I guess.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Nice BY THE POWER OF GREYSKULL sword

Kaysette
Jan 5, 2009

~*Boston makes me*~
~*feel good*~

:wrongcity:

Pham Nuwen posted:

Anyway y'all can go ahead and get down to the real business of speculating what random dudes with 10 Twitter followers are going to say about this image now, I guess.

Yeah it’s been bad. People are losing their minds over race swapping.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Numenorian to ... numenorian??

BetterLekNextTime
Jul 22, 2008

It's all a matter of perspective...
Grimey Drawer
Where A'Aragorn at?

The sword is whatever for me I guess but somehow the armor looks weird to me, like heavier than what an out-in-the-wilds ranger would be wearing and not fancy enough to be from Rivendell or Lothlorien.

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

sword sucks rear end

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DontMockMySmock
Aug 9, 2008

I got this title for the dumbest fucking possible take on sea shanties. Specifically, I derailed the meme thread because sailors in the 18th century weren't woke enough for me, and you shouldn't sing sea shanties. In fact, don't have any fun ever.


edit; poo poo i thought i was in a mtg thread lmao nvm

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