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"Man this russian military surplus is cheap and like-new quality. They must really do a good job of keeping their equipment maintained"
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prigozhin can have a little treason as a treat he would have gotten away with it if not for you meddling kids in a war thunder discord
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Earlier today, I was picturing the Russian War Effort as a version of Arrested Development. There is one guy trying very hard to make it success, then you have a cast of idiots removed from reality trying to help. E- Re- Light Treason "It IS my first offense." "Do you know anyone with a second?"
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M_Gargantua posted:I assume there is receipts but even if there isn't I'm gonna accept it and laugh Apparently there is receipts, WaPo self-censored an interview with Zelensky after the discord leaks thing, because reasons
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orange juche posted:Apparently there is receipts, WaPo self-censored an interview with Zelensky after the discord leaks thing, because reasons WaPo also ran an article today taking about how Zelensky has been considering carrying out covert operations against Russian targets in Syria via the YPJ and also taking territory in Russia itself. I understand that the Russians are likely aware of this info given how fast it spread once it leaked, but at the same time I do wonder whether this would be the type of detail to hold onto maybe after the war ends.
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Unless you’re playing five D chess and want the enemy to expend defensive resources in dumb places.
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Threaten to retake Kaliningrad and return it to Poland/Lithuania, then hope Russia takes you seriously. And maybe if they don't take the threat seriously you go through with it. Make them think twice next time.
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orange juche posted:Apparently there is receipts, WaPo self-censored an interview with Zelensky after the discord leaks thing, because reasons the full version is up, apparently it was only censored until the Prigozhin story went live. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/05/13/zelensky-washington-post-interview-transcript/#selection-2417.114-2417.907 Zelensky was Very Very Unhappy about being asked about it.
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Prigozhin is absolutely going to trip out a window huh. He may be good friends with poot poot but when it comes out that you were plotting treason against the state, even if the entity you were trying to entreat doesn't take the offer as they don't trust you, friendship only goes so far.
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Wagner should just hike back to Moscow now while they're still staffed
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orange juche posted:Prigozhin is absolutely going to trip out a window huh. It’ll be ok, he’ll just tell Putin he was leading them into a trap. I’ve seen this work out in movies.
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Lum_ posted:Zelensky was Very Very Unhappy about being asked about it. "hey mr. president can you comment on these super-sensitive, top-secret documents we got a hold of?" I can see why he'd be annoyed with them, especially since they don't seem willing to drop it after the first time he tells them to gently caress off. Hannibal Rex posted:https://twitter.com/polidemitolog/status/1657894637065969669?t=2ao7FcixUgwdQ0tLFrKWyw&s=19 This sort of thing is why I sometimes wonder if the leak was intentional, full of truths that wouldn't do too much harm, along with a bunch of half-truths to confuse the Russians and their allies, because this is just way too good to be true.
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There's a certain logic to taking Russian territory; if Russia is stupid enough to see this as territorial dick measuring, then whip it out and show that yours is longer, plus it gives you more to bargain with at future talks. The problem is that that's a pretty stupid way to look at the world, and the bigger problem is that Ukraine would arguably lose the moral advantage if it's no longer fighting a war of defense, and more practically would have a far harder time holding territory that isn't fully inhabited by Ukrainians. Holding hostile territory is far different from liberating friendly lands.
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I have zero moral qualms with seizing enemy territory in a defensive war and I'm perplexed that the idea inspires such pushback everywhere.  A war of defense requires the strategic flexibility to shape the battlefield and exploit the invader's weak points wherever they might be. Threatening Belgorod and other strategically significant Russian territory (not even necessarily taking and holding them) could theoretically force a mass, chaotic shift of Russian troops out of Ukraine to shore up likely thinly-defended lines elsewhere, as well as hammer home the message of Putin's incredible overreach. Ukraine may have plenty of logistical and resourcing reasons not to broaden the front, but that's a whole different calculus. Putin's invasion has given Ukraine every moral right to march on Moscow if it were to offer a quicker conclusion to the conflict. The aggressor doesn't get carte blanche to define the rules of the game. If the concern is that it puts Russian civilians at risk, well, there's already millions of Ukrainian civilians at risk—given Russia's started genocidal intent, all 43 million of them.
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Putin started the war trying to sack Ukraine’s capital. There is no moral debate over attacks on Russian territory, only a practical one.
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The answer varies upon the interpretation of Just War, and your view of the war in general.
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Moscow was founded within the borders of the Kyivan Rus', and therefore is technically occupied historical Ukrainian territory. UAF just wants to take it back, that's all.
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Yeah but that just makes it easier for DeSantis / Trump / whomever to justify withholding aid from UA. They’re already letting the mask slip and all. But gently caress it, I’d support taking RU territory.
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Nystral posted:Yeah but that just makes it easier for DeSantis / Trump / whomever to justify withholding aid from UA. If they suddenly started running roughshod through Russian territory, gobbling up land and inflicting the same deprivations they'd suffered, then, sure, a loss of support would be a certainty. But modest gains which would still force a major redistribution of Russian resources? Not so much.
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This is funny, but it's hard to assume he was making that offer in good faith, especially since the Ukrainians themselves didn't trust him. If we're reading about it in the Post then I'd imagine it's no surprise to the Russians and he isn't dead already.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:There's a certain logic to taking Russian territory; if Russia is stupid enough to see this as territorial dick measuring, then whip it out and show that yours is longer, plus it gives you more to bargain with at future talks. Forcing the Russians to defend Belgorod is far more valuable than taking Belgorod. There are also enough Russian bases in and around Belgorod to make a small, armored thrust at HQs and depots a high yield endeavor. This all is going to tie down a lot of Russian forces just when they need high quality mobile units in reserve.
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bulletsponge13 posted:The answer varies upon the interpretation of Just War, and your view of the war in general. I thought this thing was a special military operation, not just war.
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Cugel the Clever posted:I have zero moral qualms with seizing enemy territory in a defensive war and I'm perplexed that the idea inspires such pushback everywhere. I think the landmine discussion is a good case. Just because you are in a defensive war with a war criming opponent does not mean every move you make to survive is morally justified and some level of discretion should be exercised.
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https://twitter.com/GwarWorin/status/1657882877143445506?s=20 War in 2023 is loving weird. I would have never thought to slap loving anime porn stickers on my M4
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orange juche posted:https://twitter.com/GwarWorin/status/1657882877143445506?s=20 What about your captured AK? Edit: Also the video further down the feed of the event shows him firing with the suppressor right next to his friend's ear. Lol.
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Carth Dookie posted:
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Lum_ posted:what part of this past year's war has convinced you that russian intelligence is competent in any way whatsoever Well they did get several copies of The Sims in short order.
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orange juche posted:https://twitter.com/GwarWorin/status/1657882877143445506?s=20 “Ukrainian Hentai AK” is a hell of a username.
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fartknocker posted:“Ukrainian Hentai AK” is a hell of a username. .... first time I've been tempted.
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Lum_ posted:what part of this past year's war has convinced you that russian intelligence is competent in any way whatsoever There are countless examples but one favorite was the Ukrainian Air Force pilot who was at an airbase when they got word the invasion was starting & they expected to be hit immediately as it wasn’t a hidden base & had high value targets. But Russia just didn’t attack and so they had sufficient time to move planes & pilots & continue being effective far beyond the timeline of the most optimistic projection.
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Kawaiishnikov.
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when you fire it it goes ~ara ara ara ara ara~
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orange juche posted:https://twitter.com/GwarWorin/status/1657882877143445506?s=20 I despise anime and yet this is a vast improvement over every TERRORIST HUNTING PERMIT sticker I had to see on a dickhead POG's M16 downrange. (They were in my unit, I was also a POG)
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fartknocker posted:“Ukrainian Hentai AK” is a hell of a username. Make waifus, not war.
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