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Sir John Falstaff posted:I think it has generally been recognized that American equipment is usually somewhat superior to Russian, but it's also a lot more expensive. Like, an Abrams is about twice the price of a T-90. A country could reasonably decide that, although each T-90 is individually slightly worse than an Abrams, it's better to have twice as many tanks. I think "individually slightly worse" is a bit of an understatement
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May 17, 2023 05:13
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hahaha prigozhin nearly got blasted. he posted a video and in the middle of the video everyone scrambles for cover because Ukrainian artillery hit two houses over
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May 17, 2023 05:37
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zone posted:https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1658566623962320915 It will take some time for Russians, especially russians who swallow the propaganda and nationalism to realize they're a resource colony of China now.
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May 17, 2023 05:42
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Rust Martialis posted:The burden you're placing on "slightly" here is a lot more than I think the term was designed for, frankly. The T-90 as advertised was individually slightly worse than an Abrams.
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May 17, 2023 06:02
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Autisanal Cheese posted:I think "individually slightly worse" is a bit of an understatement Well, probably, and focusing just on cost is probably rather simplistic. In Kuwait's case, they also field plenty of Abrams as well as the T-90s. But, the T-90s were purchased to replace Yugoslavian M-84s, another T-72 variant, so purchasing T-90s probably allowed them to use some of the same ammunition, parts, logistics, etc. they already had in place for the M-84s. Plus, there's probably something to be said for not becoming entirely dependent on a single supplier.
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May 17, 2023 06:36
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HonorableTB posted:hahaha prigozhin nearly got blasted. he posted a video and in the middle of the video everyone scrambles for cover because Ukrainian artillery hit two houses over Time to figure out how to say Worldstar in Ukrainian
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May 17, 2023 07:44
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Deki posted:Why the gently caress was Kuwait going to buy Russian gear? Enormous kickbacks to the procurement team, op.
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May 17, 2023 08:48
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wouldn't there be more money to work with buying american
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May 17, 2023 08:55
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https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1658727784338845696 Spokesman for the Air Force appears to confirm that the Patriot battery is fine.
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May 17, 2023 09:07
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How likely is it that Ukraine took the Bakhmut flanks primarily in order to simplify evacuation?
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May 17, 2023 09:08
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Storkrasch posted:How likely is it that Ukraine took the Bakhmut flanks primarily in order to simplify evacuation? The gains along the flanks were gains of opportunity done by whoever was already fighting in and around the embattled city. It happened mainly because they were so severely weakened by the non-stop fighting. It appears though, that the Ukrainian forces are preparing to withdraw from the city while continuing their operation to flank it on both sides.
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May 17, 2023 09:15
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I'd like to know if the primary goal is to worsen the situation around Bakhmut for Russia, forcing it to bring in reserves from other, more important fronts thus opening them up for offensive operations there
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May 17, 2023 09:38
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zone posted:https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1658727784338845696 there was some damage according to US officials https://twitter.com/idreesali114/status/1658599129780502530 artillery ammo issues on UA side persist. while RU side has some ammo issues too, it's still far better than on UA side https://twitter.com/Tatarigami_UA/status/1658730697064947712 https://twitter.com/Tatarigami_UA/status/1658732098683797506 I wonder whether Pingu does 'nook nook' noises on Russian TV instead of 'noot noot' https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1658737151326969860
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May 17, 2023 09:38
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Somaen posted:I'd like to know if the primary goal is to worsen the situation around Bakhmut for Russia, forcing it to bring in reserves from other, more important fronts thus opening them up for offensive operations there Some days ago, they did try to bring in reinforcements to complete the capture of the city before may 9th. Unfortunately, their locations were spotted, and most of the troops, equipment, and supplies that were brought in were subsequently swept away by a mass HIMARS strike.
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May 17, 2023 10:10
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Alan Smithee posted:wouldn't there be more money to work with buying american The US probably has at least some sort of anti-corruption measures in place while with russia it's "yes please"
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May 17, 2023 10:17
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true the trump years are over
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May 17, 2023 10:23
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Even if that Patriot battery got got, the amount of infrastructure it saved by just being a missile magnet is huge. It did it's job either way. And the US can really easily just send more of them, especially now that they've proven their worth. Also, a patriot battery isn't just one thing you can blow up with a single missile, it is a bunch of launchers, a radar, and a command vehicle that are dispersed over a wide area. If one launcher got taken out, that's fine, the battery still works, and if the radar or command vehicle got blown up, they can just give them a replacement. A bigger loss would be if any of the guys trained to use it were injured or killed. It is also very funny that a single Patriot battery is a huge strategic impediment to Russia, supposedly a power that could have gone toe to toe with the US.
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May 17, 2023 10:48
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Geisladisk posted:It is also very funny that a single Patriot battery is a huge strategic impediment to Russia, supposedly a power that could have gone toe to toe with the US. This is the best part, a bunch of facists just beet red in the face with anger launching everything and anything in complete rage, and the system reportedly chilling in sleep mode, occasionally swatting some trash out of the sky.
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May 17, 2023 11:22
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Since it looks like the patriot can shoot down kinzhal then baiting them to keep throwing poo poo at it to shoot down seems reasonable.
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May 17, 2023 11:50
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I think that it’s safe to say that, amongst the many reasons certain western nations are windmill slamming their domestically produced military equipment into Ukraine, there is the fact that for their defence industries this is the greatest advertisement opportunity in decades to try and get other countries interested in buying their poo poo.
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May 17, 2023 12:36
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Obviously this has been pretty good advertising. Are Patriots currently on the list of things allowed to be sold?
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May 17, 2023 12:36
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Not freely, but diplomatic bargaining chips are better when they’re proven to work.
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May 17, 2023 12:38
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https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status/1658715269361987589
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May 17, 2023 12:44
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https://twitter.com/vidtranslator/status/1658261743548891136?s=20 lmao CIA recruiting Russians using commercials in the bleak dingy stylings they all know and love
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May 17, 2023 13:00
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'If you want Storm Shadow, give His Majestys Government a call today. Our operators are standing by and eagerly waiting to take your orders!*' *Offer not valid to Argentina** **Welllll, maybe if they pay double, we really need the money.
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May 17, 2023 13:07
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Mr Teatime posted:I think that it’s safe to say that, amongst the many reasons certain western nations are windmill slamming their domestically produced military equipment into Ukraine, there is the fact that for their defence industries this is the greatest advertisement opportunity in decades to try and get other countries interested in buying their poo poo. Also to just test this poo poo in real life strenuous situations. Up until last month nobody in the Pentagon was quite sure how Patriot would stand up to the worst Russia could throw at it. Now they know.
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May 17, 2023 13:09
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Geisladisk posted:Also to just test this poo poo in real life strenuous situations. Up until last month nobody in the Pentagon was quite sure how Patriot would stand up to the worst Russia could throw at it. Now they know. https://twitter.com/jebbbby/status/1658577472072429573?s=20
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May 17, 2023 13:11
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Rust Martialis posted:The burden you're placing on "slightly" here is a lot more than I think the term was designed for, frankly. Autisanal Cheese posted:I think "individually slightly worse" is a bit of an understatement Note that many of the countries who are looking at a T-90 are probably not qualified for the good versions of the Abrams. The russians don't have nearly as much stuff that they downgrade on the export model. So export T-90 vs export Abrams was, until recently, an interesting question. Especially if your plan for the T-90 was to put in all new non-russian (non-crap) electronics and optics, like the Indians did. TBQH that article is kinda bogus. Russia had already stopped exporting tanks last year, to replace their losses. The other countries didn't need to cancel.
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May 17, 2023 13:19
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Alan Smithee posted:lmao This is extremely stupid because if they wanted effective ads targeting government servants they would have done garish 10 second ads about MAKING MONEYZZZ$$ to target on webcam and gambling sites
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May 17, 2023 13:21
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What will you say when your child asks "Why didn't you invest in
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May 17, 2023 13:21
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Hersh showing his deep knowledge of EE region https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1658801471192723456
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May 17, 2023 13:23
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mercenarynuker posted:What will you say when your child asks "Why didn't you invest in blast from the past quote:What will you say when your child asks "Why didn't you invest, eastern Poland?"
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May 17, 2023 13:24
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Dwesa posted:Hersh showing his deep knowledge of EE region drat this guy is an idiot. mobby_6kl fucked around with this message at 13:31 on May 17, 2023 |
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May 17, 2023 13:28
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mercenarynuker posted:What will you say when your child asks "Why didn't you invest in I mean if you think about it, it wasn't that long ago that Western Ukraine was Eastern Poland.
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May 17, 2023 13:28
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Randarkman posted:I mean if you think about it, it wasn't that long ago that Western Ukraine was Eastern Poland. Weird, what happened?!
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May 17, 2023 13:31
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Captain Splendid posted:Weird, what happened?! 
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May 17, 2023 13:33
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Dwesa posted:Hersh showing his deep knowledge of EE region https://twitter.com/Brzczszczkwcz/status/1658809166050340865 lmao
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May 17, 2023 13:39
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I was told Stalin is the greatest person of the 20th century though
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May 17, 2023 13:56
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Dwesa posted:Hersh showing his deep knowledge of EE region 
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Dwesa posted:Hersh showing his deep knowledge of EE region Him using a map that hasn't been updated since 1990 would explain so much
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