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bobjr posted:I do wonder if Nate's leaving was changed last second because they talk about how he was fired and it was somewhat expected, only for him to later mention he quit, despite the team doing well and only having a recent loss that looked bad on him. Whatever happens, I still have faith they'll stick the landing. I've ugly cried at the end of two Lawrence shows. poo poo, in the case of Scrubs (the original show,) I ugly cry every time.
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May 18, 2023 01:48
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Escobarbarian posted:Probably like his tantrum in the s2 finale but with food Yes, the idea is that they didn't even need to show that part, because that's just his standard MO by this point.i love Sam Richardson, but that character really sucks. Not even in an endearing way.
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May 18, 2023 02:19
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That sure felt like a series finale and it would've been a pretty good one.
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May 18, 2023 02:21
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Data Graham posted:Okay, I'll take your word for it, I guess I just have some trouble picturing how it would have gone down physically lol I also thought logistically it was weird, since the people at the end of the table would basically just be sitting and waiting for him to finish flipping the plates of everyone ahead of them before doing their’s. I guess his assistant(s?) could have helped to make it more sudden, it just looked like the end of a food fight except it was one guy making the mess while everyone sat politely Tweak fucked around with this message at 02:35 on May 18, 2023 |
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May 18, 2023 02:28
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Cutting away to anyone else's reaction also felt lazy to me. Like, no one is going to argue with her? I don't know much about the football business, but couldn't you make an argument that forming a super league outside of FIFA's monopoly would be good for the sport?
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May 18, 2023 02:42
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Tweak posted:I also thought logistically it was weird, since the people at the end of the table would basically just be sitting and waiting for him to finish flipping the plates of everyone ahead of them before doing their’s. I guess his assistant(s?) could have helped to make it more sudden, it just looked like the end of a food fight except it was one guy making the mess while everyone sat politely
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May 18, 2023 02:43
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Remember when this show was about football?
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I thought it was about soccer?
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Lister posted:Cutting away to anyone else's reaction also felt lazy to me. Like, no one is going to argue with her? I don't know much about the football business, but couldn't you make an argument that forming a super league outside of FIFA's monopoly would be good for the sport? Writing that sounds hard. This season having important conversations happen offscreen feels like Liefield avoiding drawing feet.
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May 18, 2023 03:15
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Brain Curry posted:Writing that sounds hard. This season having important conversations happen offscreen feels like Liefield avoiding drawing feet. I was gonna say, yeah, this is becoming a pattern. Maybe it's a style but also maybe it sucks
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May 18, 2023 03:43
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Data Graham posted:Okay, I'll take your word for it, I guess I just have some trouble picturing how it would have gone down physically lol You can see his assistant (who shakes hands for him) wiping his hands as they walk out. So I assume Akufo told him to throw food at them and they sat there for it
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May 18, 2023 04:05
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SpiderLink posted:They were all swayed by Rebecca's speech and turned Akufo down. He threw a fit since he's an idiot baby and threw food on all of them. Given the way the professional handshaker was wiping his hand on the way out I'd like to think Akufo himself didn't physically do it but instead the handshaker went to each one as if the shake their hand and then tipped their plate onto them instead and since rich people are loving morons each one fell for it as he went around the table.
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May 18, 2023 04:41
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All the posts about how they threw the food are funnier than anything they could have filmed so at least the show produced something worthwhile.
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May 18, 2023 06:31
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the episode is non-linear. it was actually nate who burst in to throw the food everywhere while delivering his resignation.
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Lister posted:Cutting away to anyone else's reaction also felt lazy to me. Like, no one is going to argue with her? I don't know much about the football business, but couldn't you make an argument that forming a super league outside of FIFA's monopoly would be good for the sport? Clubs tried to make that argument a few years ago. It did not go well for them
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Neo Rasa posted:Given the way the professional handshaker was wiping his hand on the way out I'd like to think Akufo himself didn't physically do it but instead the handshaker went to each one as if the shake their hand and then tipped their plate onto them instead and since rich people are loving morons each one fell for it as he went around the table. This still has holes in it, though. Most of the guests have visibly been hit by a projectile trail of food from Akufo's end of the table (even the man sitting to Rupert's right, who should really have been sheltered by Rupert's body). Rebecca has an enormous and liquid splatter impact right across her chest and face, suggesting that she's taken a massive hit from directly in front of her. One guest is clutching the top of his head, suggesting a separate attack from above. Additionally, the sharing platters along the middle of the table all appear to have been upended and the food dumped out, including the ones down at Rebecca's end of the table, and the platter in the very centre of the table, even though it would have been very awkward and slow to squeeze past the seated victims' chairs to reach it. The actually sensible explanation here (and I like that this show doesn't hold your hand with the storytelling) is that Akufo's telekinetic powers only manifest when he's angry, which of course means the grand finale is going to be a head-exploding scene of mass murder in the Richmond locker room. Very excited to see the nay-sayers turn around on this one.
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There was an additional thrower by the painting of a grassy knoll
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I wrote a post but then I deleted it because it focused on one bad thing and that would undersell how atrocious this episode was. The plot line about Keeley’s company is some truly deleterious poo poo about how a rich friend solves all problems. The Nigerian national team thing went nowhere. The Super League plot line is wildly patronizing. I feel like the show goes out of its way to piss off people who watch real world football.
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May 18, 2023 09:10
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What did her company really do though? They only ever showed her hanging out there, also did they not have a lease did they somehow just get office space directly from the VC? If so how did she not know any of this like who even set this up?
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I got the feeling that it was a PR company whose sole asset was actually Keeley's celebrity status? but then it turns out that they were just kind of a front cause Jack wanted to get into her pants which to be honest is kind of almost exactly the same thing? what's to stop Keeley for bringing her clients to Richmond games like she always did? Like she's a celebrity, a model that dates footballers, well connected to billionaires who own premier league teams, it's the same thing with Nate really, her company existing in the first place is testament to how successful she is, she can pretty much just keep at it, the plot really barely makes any sense, doing PR for Richmond would by itself be enough to sustain a small agency without the need for any external funding. the universe of the show is the weirdest, really.
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Also bankruptcy doesn't work like that. They don't repo your furniture next day. There's an interesting plot almost there in that what we saw could have theoretically been ordered by Barbara on Jack's behalf. I'm choosing to interpret it that way because it makes Barbara competent and makes the snow globe scene way funnier.
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May 18, 2023 12:20
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If you drop Keely's plot you basically have time to develop everything else they were trying to do. Also, I too like Bill Lawrence's body of work.
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Show is fine. There is much worse out there. There was a few terrible moments (Keely and Rebecca swaying their heads as Ted does his song was rancid) and it does suck there isn't much focus on the game itself but at least we get to hear about them doing alright. I just hope the last 2 episodes (I believe it's 12, right?) focus entirely on Ted and the team. The Keely stuff went nowhere and it should be wrapped up now.
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What is the show doing differently now than it did in season 1 that suggests it cares more or less about soccer? I never got the impression anyone cared for verisimilitude, only storytelling. All I can think of is in season 1 it was part of almost every story, while now it's not, but the attitude towards the sport seems identical to me. The contrast with Scrubs is interesting again here, because I remember hearing about doctors and nurses praising Scrubs for being surprisingly correct in its portrayal of a hospital and medical care. Maybe that was promotional bs, but they seemed to put in the effort to run it by a doctor when they had no need to.
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Scrubs did have a bunch of medical advisors; including the eponymous Jonathan Doris (JD) that inspired the shows creation, who overviewed everything about the medical stories in that show. Maybe they have an onsite DFO named Leslie who just sort of says, "yea I mean probably that could happen" whenever soccer related stuff comes up
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10 wins in row in the premier league would be pretty drat good, basically setting up for a championship run, and yet it just happens in the background
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First episode of the season that I skipped bits of just to move it along. Somehow this will all be wrapped up nicely in two episodes.
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I really liked that episode.  I know people are talking like the series is wrapping up or heading for a spinoff - but they've specifically said they haven't decided if this is the end haven't they? I remember Nick Mohammed said on the Off Menu podcast the other week that he doesn't know if it'll carry on.
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stev posted:I really liked that episode. my uneducated guess is that negotiations are still live, or at least nothing is considered closed as far a negotiations go, with Apple. Of the core cast, who's interested and who's not interesting in making more in this universe, and what are the actual pitches being considered, dollar amounts, etc. As a production matter, I think the firmest assumption is Sudekis is done with filming in London and needs to be in the US with his kids. It could be Season 4: Witchita Nights with Ted, et. al or it could be something wildly different or who knows.
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Sometimes I feel like shows think I just binged the last season and can make callbacks without any reminders of WTF they are referencing.
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Thinking back about this week's episode, yeah there were a lot of pointless callbacks to past seasons. Must've been some confusing poo poo in there. The Roy-teacher interaction must've been baffling. Ditto Rebecca's monster pose.
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pokeyman posted:Thinking back about this week's episode, yeah there were a lot of pointless callbacks to past seasons. Must've been some confusing poo poo in there. The Roy-teacher interaction must've been baffling. Ditto Rebecca's monster pose. It was absolutely wild for them to think that interaction with Leann could coexist in an episode where Roy hooks back up with Keely. What are they even doing.
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pokeyman posted:Thinking back about this week's episode, yeah there were a lot of pointless callbacks to past seasons. Must've been some confusing poo poo in there. The Roy-teacher interaction must've been baffling. Ditto Rebecca's monster pose. It felt very weird for Rebecca to intentionally spit tea all over Ted's face for the sake of an inside joke callback. Like... Ted handed her the customary box of biscuits with clockwork precision and then she intentionally spit tea in his face... wtf. Penitent fucked around with this message at 06:23 on May 19, 2023 |
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pokeyman posted:Thinking back about this week's episode, yeah there were a lot of pointless callbacks to past seasons. Must've been some confusing poo poo in there. The Roy-teacher interaction must've been baffling. Ditto Rebecca's monster pose. The roy-teacher thing was extremely confusing because I thought it might go "oh hey Roy might let go of the Keeley thing, and the teacher is nice" but nope
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Penitent posted:It felt very weird for Rebecca to intentionally spit tea all over Ted's face for the sake of an inside joke callback. I vaguely remembered that this was a reference to something earlier in the show but I couldn't tell you for the life of me what it was. It's an odd decision to end the episode with something that'll confuse a big chunk of the audience.
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Another episode made up of very good to great component parts - especially loved the Roy/Keeley reunion although as already noted it was confusing after the flirty scene between Roy and the teacher - that just doesn't add up to a coherent or satisfying whole. It feels more like a sketch show than a syndicated comedy drama now. Nate leaving West Ham off-screen and for sketchily defined reasons was loving terrible. The scene with his father was well-acted and directed but didn't feel entirely earned as this change of attitude from his father seems to have come out of nowhere. As has been discussed already, they're really starting to strain the credulity of the football world now. Barely anybody cares about international matches outside of major tournaments, particularly not the late-March international friendlies I assume this episode is based around. A ten-game winning streak with this recently-promoted group of players would be considered a minor miracle and Ted would most definitely start to be sniffed around by bigger clubs. Ted himself is barely in this episode, sacrificed once again for the Keeley Show which I refuse to believe a single person outside of the creative team gives a flying gently caress about. The scenes with Rebecca and Keeley are starting to feel like that Spinoff Showcase episode of The Simpsons; "Who knows! An old friend from Richmond might just pop by and say hello!" The Super-League subplot was unbearably patronising and the ending of it was ridiculous in both content and execution. Rebecca taking the green matchbook out of her handbag just reminded me of that utterly bizarre sideplot with the psychic that just seems to have been dropped without a word. Absolutely no mention of Ted's ex-wive and son either.
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Hey, that's just a casualty of editing. All they need is about 40 more minutes of runtime and they can give all those storylines their proper due
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The cynic in me is convinced that the huge rewrites weren't about Sudeikis suddenly wanting entire storylines and character arcs to be overhauled, but Apple demanding material that sets up the Keeley spin-off and a potential fourth season without Ted himself.
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The Super League subplot was weird because it’s a real “ripped from the headlines” type of thing and Rebecca’s speech was overly sanctimonious to the point of being almost cringy. At the same time, though, I also get it why they did, since the actual real world proposed Super League is such a utterly gross and greed-fuel threat to the entire existence of Euro foot as we know it.
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