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May 18, 2023 13:16
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RadiRoot posted:but individual carbon footprint is a lie perpetuated by big oil It's not like that car was manufactured for him from scratch. 
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May 18, 2023 13:22
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RadiRoot posted:but individual carbon footprint is a lie perpetuated by big oil this can be true and an individual can also be a huge rear end in a top hat at the same time like the diff between a conscript forced to the front lines of a war at gunpoint vs some meathead who volunteers and takes pleasure in warmongering
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May 18, 2023 13:26
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Cold on a Cob posted:this can be true and an individual can also be a huge rear end in a top hat at the same time thats right
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May 18, 2023 13:28
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Stereotype posted:here is a fun post from reddit but it really sounds more like from here smh at these doomers. someone somewhere may find this depressing, stop harming mental health!
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May 18, 2023 13:42
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"well at least the wildfires arent happening on my continent!" https://twitter.com/dwallacewells/status/1659159480381104128
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May 18, 2023 13:53
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:number... not go up...? simply invert number!
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May 18, 2023 14:35
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just need a massive toxic train derailment to occur in the middle of a raging forest inferno.
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May 18, 2023 14:39
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https://twitter.com/Ant_Partnership/status/1659080930777088001 Australian Antarctic Program quietly screaming in that calm way only professional scientists can do. Large ice free regions in the Antarctic, at the winter solstice, while receiving no sunlight. 
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May 18, 2023 15:06
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My neighbor down the street had an older F-650 that got repo'ed kind of recently. He never drove it anywhere and it took up so much of his driveway that he had to park his fleet of other ridiculous vehicles in the board of ed parking lot across the street. Very normal and acceptable behavior.
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May 18, 2023 15:06
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ELTON JOHN posted:"well at least the wildfires arent happening on my continent!" I hate to be that guy, but wildfires are normal and fine When we had global forest coverage and no human intervention they were common It's one of those really alarming things getting worse with climate change but the answer is really to go in and plant more fresh trees in the places the wildfires happen and keep planting trees until we get closer to historical levels Trees are supposed to burn, whole rear end plant and animal lifecycles are built around wildfires and the fertile environments they create when the fires end. Gotta take the bad with the good. Instead of worrying about this normal thing, worry about the problems humans and industry create instead. If you want to help nature along after a fire, plant some trees! Edit: we're also almost certainly producing more toxic smoke in coal emissions every day than all the wildfires do in a year. The earth can shrug off it's normal emission load, the problem is when we mine or pull concentrated carbon from the earth and burn it. Engorged Pedipalps has issued a correction as of 15:49 on May 18, 2023 |
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May 18, 2023 15:46
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actionjackson posted:from nyt This "record high temperature" thing has brought back the dumbass caveman tier "But Texas had a polar vortex" denial that leads to people holding up snowballs proclaiming global warming isn't happening because we are too stupid to understand complex systems with multiple variables apparently. It never goes away but it's being posted fresh everywhere now like deniers were pinged by this new report and must respond. Could that polar vortex have been due to climate change? Maybe weather changes too? Nope. You say get hot but still cold sometime.
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May 18, 2023 15:50
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listening to a pretty good podcast about the wildfires in alberta right nowquote:ALEX PANETTA: Mm hmm. And it doesn't seem like there's an immediate off ramp. I mean, we're not about to stop burning fossil fuels. And even if we did, scientists say what we've already burned means we're committed to at least another degree of warming worldwide. So how bad is it going to get? How about our fire season is going to be in the future? wow, loving doomers. this guy needs to go out and touch grass if he can find any that's not on fire e: link to the transcript and podcast Cold on a Cob has issued a correction as of 15:52 on May 18, 2023 |
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May 18, 2023 15:50
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Bob Ross Nuke Test posted:https://twitter.com/Ant_Partnership/status/1659080930777088001 I am not a scientist but the area difference in that picture produces a profound sense of dread in my stomach
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May 18, 2023 15:51
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Stop thinking about the climate and go outside
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May 18, 2023 15:58
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Rectal Death Adept posted:Stop thinking about the climate and go outside
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May 18, 2023 15:58
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RadiRoot posted:but individual carbon footprint is a lie perpetuated by big oil I wouldn't say it's a lie but it is only a big thing for the very wealthy. and emissions by businesses are still the vast majority.
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May 18, 2023 16:00
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I'm hiking so much less than I used to because the last few summers have been so humid and gross and the warm winters mean all the trails I'd normally hit in the colder months were just gross mud pits.
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May 18, 2023 16:01
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Yeah, well the Canadian Football League has cancelled or moved practices indoors and is talking about cancelling outdoor games due to the Alberta fires. Sportsball is being affected. This Is Serious, Mom! DOOM!!! And  that the face-eating leopards of the Make Alberta Great Again party poo poo-canned the wildfire fast attack program. Apparently it was wasteful government spending to helicopter a team in while the fire was still only a few hectares, or the private sector would provide, or some loving thing. But now Calgarians have more money in their wallets (and more smoke in their lungs). Vote!Rectal Death Adept posted:Stop thinking about the climate and go outside Cough, cough. Can't even put my transplants out in the garden lest they die of sunstroke. 
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May 18, 2023 16:01
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:I am not a scientist but the area difference in that picture produces a profound sense of dread in my stomach Have you considered improving your mental health through a combination of toxic positivity, gaslighting, and delusional expectations about the future?
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May 18, 2023 16:39
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lol its already an apocalyptic hellscape, my lungs are fried from a lifetime of air pollution and ozone red days make me dizzy without a respirator. all the coal plants got a waiver and it keeps getting worse, and the grid is still in danger of collapsing over the summer. wheee. last week was the first time i've ever blown a blood vessel in my sinuses, it looked like a tarantino movie.
Jesus Horse has issued a correction as of 16:53 on May 18, 2023 |
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May 18, 2023 16:49
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Engorged Pedipalps posted:I hate to be that guy, but wildfires are normal and fine I've lived in NY/NJ for my entire life and don't remember any of the west coast wildfires before 2020 causing horrendous air quality 3000 miles away with visible haze at ground level that makes your eyes burn. e: also it was 28 degrees last night so all the plants that started sprouting during the 80 degree weather last month are dead again
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May 18, 2023 16:56
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hey who knows maybe the toxic air will bring back masks 😂
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May 18, 2023 17:08
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Rectal Death Adept posted:Stop thinking about the climate and go outside Air is smokey. Gotta mask and even then my eyes still hurt.
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May 18, 2023 17:12
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Engorged Pedipalps posted:I hate to be that guy, but wildfires are normal and fine they're burning hotter, longer, and in places where they're not a traditional part of the ecosystem they're burning hot enough to sterilize the soil and kill all the seeds that would normally regenerate the forest after a fire they're burning more acreage than can be regenerated in any reasonable timeframe they're burning in areas where the climate has changed enough to make forest regrowth unlikely it's not the carbon that's the problem (although it's not good), the problem is that the fires are worse now than they've been in living memory
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May 18, 2023 17:18
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I've got a DIY box fan filter that really helps with the indoor air quality at my house when the smoke comes. It takes like 5 minutes to make.
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May 18, 2023 17:18
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Rectal Death Adept posted:Stop thinking about the climate and go outside I would, but I'm in northern Alberta, and it looks like Silent Hill out there.
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May 18, 2023 17:25
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but have you considered Silent Hill looked cool
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May 18, 2023 17:30
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The smoke does look totally badass when it gets like that. One of the silver linings of climate change.
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May 18, 2023 17:34
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From a few years ago I remember being entranced from seeing beautiful dark red and orange sunsets from Indiana, thanks to the wildfires from Oregon. And I long for those days
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May 18, 2023 17:50
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im_sorry posted:I would, but I'm in northern Alberta, and it looks like Silent Hill out there. one upside to Earth's Crispening is that when COVID hit my parents were already fully stocked with N95s because of the constant fires. but of course their house burned down. but N95s!
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May 18, 2023 17:57
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if your house is on fire just sell it to the human torch, duh
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May 18, 2023 18:03
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One thing the "wildfires are normal" crew usually fails to address is invasive species problems too. Like california just getting pummeled by eucalyptus. Yes wild files are historically normal and in fact needed for some trees to seed but also if the fire does burn to hot it burns the tree too into an unrecoverable state.
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May 18, 2023 18:08
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cat botherer posted:I've got a DIY box fan filter that really helps with the indoor air quality at my house when the smoke comes. It takes like 5 minutes to make. That's a pretty sad air filter, it doesn't even have a shroud around the corners. This is a DIY box fan filter: https://cleanaircrew.org/box-fan-filters/
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May 18, 2023 18:10
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Mayor Dave posted:they're burning hotter, longer, and in places where they're not a traditional part of the ecosystem Wrt the bolded part do you have any examples of a place this actually happened because I can only find articles referencing a single study performed in a lab environment drawing this conclusion I live in a part of the country that gets very hot and routinely sustains wildfires and I come from a part of the country that historically had them prior to mass human intervention and both states were fine Morels and other post burn fungi and plant life are all over the northeast and proliferated wildly prior to human land and fire management strategies On that note, part of the problem that study discusses is how human fire management processes contribute to this problem. We are addicted to controlling our environments idk what else to say. If we hadn't slashed and burned so much of the landscape the fires would be bigger and hotter. Historically forest density was many times larger than it is now. So was ground coverage on the forest floor. The toxic air is a problem but toxic air from forests burning would be a problem in any healthy ecosystem. If you live in an incredibly developed state you largely eradicated the problem by shrinking your forests and if you want them to grow back after a fire, go get planting. I really don't think they're burning hot enough to salt the earth out there just yet. Engorged Pedipalps has issued a correction as of 18:37 on May 18, 2023 |
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May 18, 2023 18:32
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https://www.denverpost.com/2023/03/09/wildfire-forest-regrowth-too-hot-the-west/
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May 18, 2023 18:36
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silicone thrills posted:https://www.denverpost.com/2023/03/09/wildfire-forest-regrowth-too-hot-the-west/ I understand their concern but I don't understand how this wasn't a problem when forests were like 90 times more dense than they are now
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May 18, 2023 18:38
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Engorged Pedipalps posted:Wrt the bolded part do you have any examples of a place this actually happened because I can only find articles referencing a single study performed in a lab environment drawing this conclusion Lol you’re literally using Trumps line about the fires being caused by fire suppression and not climate change. Historic fire suppression doesn’t help, but the big reason why this is happening is climate change.
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May 18, 2023 18:39
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Engorged Pedipalps posted:I understand their concern but I don't understand how this wasn't a problem when forests were like 90 times more dense than they are now
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May 18, 2023 18:40
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Engorged Pedipalps posted:I understand their concern but I don't understand how this wasn't a problem when forests were like 90 times more dense than they are now This actually addresses that old growth forest is less dense because of the way the forest structures itself over time and the first and second growth forests are the hosed up weird ones that are super dense. https://e360.yale.edu/features/fighting-fire-with-fire-california-turns-to-prescribed-burning It also notes that the 20 year draught has a lot to do with just the sheer insane amount of dead wood for fuel Also this article also addresses that the fires are taking out the seed bearing trees as well https://www.fastcompany.com/90560695/how-to-redesign-a-forest-restoring-californias-trees-in-the-age-of-fire silicone thrills has issued a correction as of 18:43 on May 18, 2023 |
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May 18, 2023 18:41
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