swg pre-CU lasted just short of two years, CU only a few months, and then NGE for the rest of the game's lifespan as a dead husk of its former self. in truth while the community freaked out about the combat upgrade, private servers have taught us that pre-CU's economic mechanics start to break down a few years after a server starts up and its combat mechanics were always a tired chore that you put up with for the novelty of being in an Online Star War. CU private servers are interesting since the game really never had time to exist properly in that state before it was revamped with NGE into a WoW clone, i think they are probably the best choice if you want to play SWG today
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# ? May 18, 2023 17:44 |
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How do pre-CU economies break down after a couple years?
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# ? May 18, 2023 18:43 |
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Someone's making a games workshop game. I guess that's not really news though huhquote:“As someone who has molded my career developing expansive MMO stories, I’m proud to unveil that our first game in development at Jackalyptic Games will focus on the rich universes of Warhammer,” said Jack Emmert, CEO at Jackalyptic Games. “Bringing the deep lore of this IP to our game is a massive undertaking, and we are thrilled to work alongside Games Workshop to bring this vision to life.” https://www.jackalyptic.com/press-release/
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# ? May 18, 2023 23:34 |
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Omg it’s netease, 0% chance the game isn’t microtransaction hell.
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# ? May 18, 2023 23:55 |
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I heard today the GW is discontinuing the dreadnought model for 40k and that makes me sad.
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# ? May 18, 2023 23:56 |
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A new LoTR MMO, and now a new Warhammer MMO. SWG2 is real, I can feel it!
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# ? May 19, 2023 00:30 |
Kaysette posted:I heard today the GW is discontinuing the dreadnought model for 40k and that makes me sad. I just looked into this and they're killing off dreadnought, terminators, heroes like Gabriel angelos, and all the greater demons like great unclean ones? *why*
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# ? May 19, 2023 01:22 |
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I used to like Jack Emmert cuz he headed City of Heroes, then he left and the game got 1000% better And Champions Online sucked poo poo. I would like this new Warhammer MMO to be good, but I am braced for hot poo poo garbage
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# ? May 19, 2023 01:28 |
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I heard the new Warhammer MMO is based on AoS, which at first I said "ew", but I think most people kind of like AoS now? The new Kroxigor models they just released alone makes me like it.
Cardboard Fox fucked around with this message at 02:07 on May 19, 2023 |
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I enjoyed the last Warhammer mmo for the three months I played it
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# ? May 19, 2023 02:14 |
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CuddleCryptid posted:I just looked into this and they're killing off dreadnought, terminators, heroes like Gabriel angelos, and all the greater demons like great unclean ones? *why* The dreadnoughts and terminators have been replaced with new models that are basically the same guy but bigger The greater demons being killed off are from the forge world brand. I reckon they might be doing plastic versions, because their recent trend is to make bigger versions of the same models (with a different name and better rules, no you can't use your old models stop asking), and the forge world ones are very large. Or they just weren't popular, who knows
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# ? May 19, 2023 03:07 |
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bandaid.friend posted:The dreadnoughts and terminators have been replaced with new models that are basically the same guy but bigger They lose the iconic boxyness on dreadnoughts, I kind of hate the new variant. It's not just it being bigger. The new terminators are fine though, they keep the helmet.
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# ? May 19, 2023 03:09 |
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Some Throne and Liberty beta video from the closed beta https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TibhnOphdg
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# ? May 20, 2023 15:11 |
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blatman posted:i want a cyberpunk-themed mmo where i can run a noodle cart where players eat my noodles in the rain while on the hunt for renegade androids SWLOR persistent world on good old nwn could scratch that itch
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# ? May 22, 2023 08:15 |
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Phigs posted:How do pre-CU economies break down after a couple years? I imagine because eventually all the crafters eventually get perfect mats which is what you needed to run the uh, whatever the statline quality for the doc buffs were (i seem to recall the number 800?). And those medic buffs completely break the game. Everything becomes trivial except for content that is impossible (death watch bunker, the loving corellian corvette). People do "solo groups" where you get in groups to be able to solo because I think being in the group gave you more or different or better missions at the terminal. Then you spam the clunky rear end combat system or even macro it and kill bols for a hundred hours. The market goes bonkers. With that Rage of the Wookies expansion (ugh, terrible name), they did two things. One was the combat upgrade, which was fine. The other is that they added honest to god star wars content in the game. But it wasn't enough, and they needed to make more content. That's what people were telling them, but they weren't getting it done and people were still trying to get their jedi, which at that point was the jedi village so that it was some sort of fair way to get jedi unlocked. But it required even more grinding of bols. Millions of XP to unlock each box. People got bored, they quit. The staff panicked, they decided to do the terrible NGE. They announced it right after the Trials of Obi-Wan expansion (ugh, terrible name) and then launched it i think 2 weeks later? It was so half assed that it had pictures of the characters for each class (luke, han, commander cody, etc) and some of them had incorrect aspect ratios. Kaboom. Game over. SWG was a weird game. It was a cool social experiment but a terrible spacewars game. Then it was a slightly better spacewars game (I liked the CU fight me) and even had a space game that was good but horrendously broken at the end game, because it forced PVP and they had their head so far up their rear end that they couldn't figure out how having a completely different scale for hp and damage for npcs vs players (npcs had tens or hundreds of thousands of hit points, you had like 5 thousand) would completely break down if you didn't change those values for pvp, so one volley of lasers would destroy a multi player ship. They never fixed it because i don't know, they were dumb. And the player base who got ace rank first (which was just the top of the skill chain) made it their active duty to prevent other players from being able to finish their last mission because quote:I heard the new Warhammer MMO is based on AoS, which at first I said "ew", but I think most people kind of like AoS now? The new Kroxigor models they just released alone makes me like it. AoS has spent like 8 years reintroducing factions and unfucking their lore. It's really strange, because it launched as "the entire universe was blown up and there are only hell plains were these guys fight each other" and now it's like, eh nevermind. It's fine. Here's a map of the world.
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# ? May 22, 2023 08:44 |
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Cutedge posted:AoS has spent like 8 years reintroducing factions and unfucking their lore. It's really strange, because it launched as "the entire universe was blown up and there are only hell plains were these guys fight each other" and now it's like, eh nevermind. It's fine. Here's a map of the world. I had no idea. Thought it was still a wargame about nothing.
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# ? May 22, 2023 14:14 |
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Kaysette posted:Omg it’s netease, 0% chance the game isn’t microtransaction hell. Seeing how Darktide is a lovely ghost town of microtransactions, this is almost guaranteed.
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# ? May 22, 2023 16:32 |
Rexicon1 posted:Seeing how Darktide is a lovely ghost town of microtransactions, this is almost guaranteed. The microtransactions for cosmetics is a kick in the back for that but I'd say it's more due to their terrible launch that was missing the crafting feature carrot for the long term players more than microtransactions. But if a true micro-heavy mmo comes out you bet your rear end it's going to have tons of gameplay-impacting items to buy.
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# ? May 22, 2023 16:34 |
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CuddleCryptid posted:The microtransactions for cosmetics is a kick in the back for that but I'd say it's more due to their terrible launch that was missing the crafting feature carrot for the long term players more than microtransactions. But if a true micro-heavy mmo comes out you bet your rear end it's going to have tons of gameplay-impacting items to buy. Every game system stunk to high heaven of “in a few months we will put a microtransaction here to ease the burden and boredom of it”. But instead everyone stopped playing and they panicked.
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# ? May 22, 2023 16:40 |
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Games Workshop is bringing back the Old World factions to table top, so that tells you where Age of Sigmar is at nowadays.
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# ? May 22, 2023 16:52 |
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I ended up so bummed by Darktide. I’d been looking forward to a 40k version of Vermintide for years but they blew it. But so many of the basics did feel good! Argh!
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# ? May 22, 2023 17:00 |
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Boltgun comes out tomorrow at least! https://store.steampowered.com/app/2005010/Warhammer_40000_Boltgun/
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# ? May 22, 2023 17:02 |
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Kaysette posted:I ended up so bummed by Darktide. I’d been looking forward to a 40k version of Vermintide for years but they blew it. But so many of the basics did feel good! Argh! I lolled when I found out you killed zombies in it. Why wouldn't it be tyranids??
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# ? May 22, 2023 17:13 |
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I said come in! posted:Boltgun comes out tomorrow at least! https://store.steampowered.com/app/2005010/Warhammer_40000_Boltgun/ Not an mmo, but yeah i'm hyped Another mmo I never heard of, but pirate/naval mmos are really the most cursed of the genre: https://www.rulersofthesea.com/news/the-curtains-close/
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# ? May 22, 2023 17:27 |
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Cutedge posted:Not an mmo, but yeah i'm hyped True! Not an MMO, or live service title, which is why it will be good. Anything MMO or live service I just automatically dump into the forget about it category nowadays. Overwhelming positive word of mouth is about the only way I will play one of those games these days.
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# ? May 22, 2023 17:59 |
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Cutedge posted:Not an mmo, but yeah i'm hyped MMO Chat: We had a great design but lacked the expert developers you need for an MMORPG. Hadn't heard about this one before now. It's a little telling that all they seemed to have was concept art. Too many idea guys, not enough developers.
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# ? May 22, 2023 18:12 |
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I said come in! posted:Boltgun comes out tomorrow at least! https://store.steampowered.com/app/2005010/Warhammer_40000_Boltgun/ lol 20 dollars for a boomer shooter
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# ? May 22, 2023 18:20 |
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Third World Reagan posted:lol 20 dollars for a boomer shooter That's fine! $20 is really not bad at all.
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# ? May 22, 2023 18:31 |
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20 bucks is the boomer shooter price. That's the price of all the ones I've played - I'm surprised the licensed one is only a couple bucks more.
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# ? May 22, 2023 21:11 |
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it's the bridge game between Space Marine and Space Marine 2 apparently too, which is cool. It involves that weird battery you get in Space Marine and the servo skull that's accompanying you belongs to the inquisitor at the end of the first game. You're not playing as titus tho. Babe Magnet fucked around with this message at 22:29 on May 22, 2023 |
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Third World Reagan posted:lol 20 dollars for a boomer shooter Joke's on you, preorder is 10% off
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# ? May 23, 2023 07:35 |
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For reasons entirely unknown to me, I have been afforded the generous opportunity to invest in an up and coming MMO.quote:Dear [kedo], I know, I know, you're skeptical, but what if I hit you with these astonishing points?? quote:- Players can collect dragons, items, and abilities and may choose to trade them on the internal NFT marketplace. Blockchain 👏 NFTs 👏 Crypto 👏 What's not to love? https://www.game-of-dragons.com/ The pitch deck (it is worth a few lols): https://file.io/9dcLRzgUORCB
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# ? May 23, 2023 14:17 |
You know they know what they're doing because they think that five million dollars is enough to launch a MMO.
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# ? May 23, 2023 14:22 |
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You should respond to them that you're fully on board and ready to invest your entire FTX wallet and see how they respond
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# ? May 23, 2023 14:30 |
Fajita Queen posted:You should respond to them that you're fully on board and ready to invest your entire FTX wallet and see how they respond "I'm happy to pay five million dollars out of my FTX wallet, but unfortunately due to legal issues on the part of the holder it is currently inaccessible. For a small sum of five hundred dollars to settle these concerns I would be happy to hand this wallet to you once it is reopened as a show of support..."
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# ? May 23, 2023 14:35 |
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The CU era of SWG was the best, and I will never understand everyone's obsession with Pre-CU. It made it so Composite armor wasn't the default, shook combat up and made it a lot more fun. Essentially, it had a lot of the QoL things that were the only positives of the NGE, but the deeper skill system that so many people enjoyed. I haven't checked in years, is there a popular CU era private server?
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# ? May 23, 2023 14:46 |
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SWG Restorations was the big CU one I remember, and Legends was the biggest NGE one last time I looked.
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# ? May 23, 2023 15:47 |
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I said come in! posted:That's fine! $20 is really not bad at all. Yea 20$ for a good game is still a steal
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# ? May 23, 2023 17:04 |
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kedo posted:For reasons entirely unknown to me, I have been afforded the generous opportunity to invest in an up and coming MMO.
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Let us click the tokenomics link at the top OH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVgfHZMFFFQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4FoNVS1SGQ
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