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Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


The undisputed world champion of wrestling effortposting
To counter Ric Flair's issues, have something funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYCXqw3JcPY

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The Last Call
Sep 9, 2011

Rehabilitating sinner
They should have let Ric fall on his own sword long ago and let him deal with the consequences of his actions and choices.

Be it bad financial ideas or the drinking he kept up even when everyone knew it was beyond a problem.

He's drat lucky he had people to bail his sorry rear end out.

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014
being in front of hundreds if not thousands of people every night cheering your name really fucks you up

Crazy Mike
Sep 16, 2005

Now with 25% more kimchee.

Archer666 posted:

Remember watching a yt review of that and being terrified, can't imagine actually seeing it live. Either on TV or in person.

At some point tho the yt review showed a picture of the other old folks there like Bret Hart and The Undertaker and everyone looked either horrified, pissed off or having none of this poo poo.

I flew to Nashville for this. It was better than Summer Slam. I ended up sitting in the Car Shield comp seats and got handed an autographed Flair picture.

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

two gatorades lol

the entire thing was really depressing and terrifying has further tarnished his wrestling legacy ric flair is determined to reenact the wrestler and die in the ring dn the people who should be preventing this are just enabling him

Lots of the Wrester comparisons in this article… from 12 years and one wife ago: https://grantland.com/features/the-wrestler-real-life/

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

Everyone loved the Ric Flair 30 for 30 then the Vice plane ride from hell documentary came out and everyone was like "Huh, maybe constantly being drunk and waving your cock around in public and on airplanes can be bad."

5er
Jun 1, 2000


Cornwind Evil posted:

To counter Ric Flair's issues, have something funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYCXqw3JcPY

These guys are absolutely leaning into the medium and it was hilarious.

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

has anyone ever done a telekinesis gimmick where they have all sorts of crazy professor x powers and can move people with their minds


second question was it any good lmao

PicklePants
May 8, 2007
Woo!
That Public Enemy/Acolytes match is always so hard to watch. It's just Bradshaw and Farooq just beating the poo poo out of two dudes, for wanting a last minute match finish change. That was just excessive brutality, just because the table guys didn't want to lose at tables.

Bradshaw sucks.

X JAKK
Sep 1, 2000

We eat the pig then together we BURN

GolfHole posted:

has anyone ever done a telekinesis gimmick where they have all sorts of crazy professor x powers and can move people with their minds


second question was it any good lmao

best i can do

https://i.imgur.com/1BWKpuA.mp4

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


GolfHole posted:

has anyone ever done a telekinesis gimmick where they have all sorts of crazy professor x powers and can move people with their minds


second question was it any good lmao

I once saw this big match where three Japanese promotions got together to do a New Year's Eve 108-person Royal Rumble where pinning was allowed. One of the entrants was able to knock his opponents out of the ring via telekinesis. It was a fun match that featured:

- A Hulk Hogan blow-up doll as an entrant.

- A guy getting eliminated, then finding out one of his next personas was the next entry and washing off his facepaint real quick.

- Everyone stopping what they were doing mid-match so everyone could come out as they counted down to the new year. Then when they were done, one guy was running to the back, only to turn back around and enter the match next.

In terms of mind-control, Chikara had a long-running plot device artifact called the Eye of Tyr, which had mind-altering abilities. It was mainly used as a way to turn face wrestlers heel for a brief period. This culminated in a storyline where a retired wrestler (confined to a wheelchair) was possessed by it and started going around, mind-controlling wrestlers into being his evil slaves. They were called the HeXed Men and all wore red and black gear.

This was eventually undone thanks to Ophidian, a snake-based wrestler with the power of hypnotizing his opponents into dancing. That apparently made him immune and he was able to save the others.

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004


the honky donkey man !!

Gavok posted:

- Everyone stopping what they were doing mid-match so everyone could come out as they counted down to the new year. Then when they were done, one guy was running to the back, only to turn back around and enter the match next.

kayfabulous

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

PicklePants posted:

That Public Enemy/Acolytes match is always so hard to watch. It's just Bradshaw and Farooq just beating the poo poo out of two dudes, for wanting a last minute match finish change. That was just excessive brutality, just because the table guys didn't want to lose at tables.

Bradshaw sucks.

after JBL beat the poo poo out of blue meanie on a live show for some stupid wrestling court reason and then stevie richards got revenge on JBL on an episode of smackdown by laying into him with a chair until he was concussed

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014
personally i would not pick a fight with the crazy ecw guys but im not JBL

Extra Large Marge
Jan 21, 2004

Fun Shoe
I would not have expected a tag team duo named "Public Enemy" to look like fat guys who work at gamestop

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

personally i would not pick a fight with the crazy ecw guys but im not JBL

JBL got knocked on his rear end by one punch from ECW's announcer, Joey Styles

not trolled not crying
Jan 29, 2007

21st Century Awezome Man

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

after JBL beat the poo poo out of blue meanie on a live show for some stupid wrestling court reason and then stevie richards got revenge on JBL on an episode of smackdown by laying into him with a chair until he was concussed

The chairshot has to be seen (heard) to be believed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj1ScIBpUq0

Of course concussions etc./cte are bad but this was well deserved.

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

Sydney Bottocks posted:

JBL got knocked on his rear end by one punch from ECW's announcer, Joey Styles

lol

Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


The undisputed world champion of wrestling effortposting
Ho boy. Behind The Bastards is beginning a six part series...on Vince McMahon.

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-one-vince-mcmahon-historys-greatest-115219643/

Based on that choice of title, it's going to be something. I wonder if it will confirm my original story.

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014
you can make an entire show about vince because the material is endless

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014
6 parts isnt enough

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014
six parts wont even cover the 80s

AlmightyBob
Sep 8, 2003

yeah the dude covered up s loving murder

The Last Call
Sep 9, 2011

Rehabilitating sinner

GolfHole posted:

has anyone ever done a telekinesis gimmick where they have all sorts of crazy professor x powers and can move people with their minds


second question was it any good lmao

Chikara had lots of crazy stories, aliens, time travelling, you name it.

quote:

Not only are they competently-written, but they tend to have a weird spice to them. Cartoon and comic book logic run rampant in CHIKARA and use concepts that you aren’t likely to find in the mainstream. Time travel, mind-control, amnesia, hypnotism, all-powerful hammers that can only be lifted by the worthy, Egyptian gods, a man with a built-in pause button that actually works, people made out of ice cream, etc.

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT

The Last Call posted:

a man with a built-in pause button that actually works

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otiizmbUY20

Gringo Heisenberg
May 30, 2009




:dukedog:
Does anyone have a link to that old thread about all the hosed up stuff wrestlers have done? I think it was something like Carnies, rapists, and something: the wrestling dirt thread. that was a good thread

Regrettable
Jan 5, 2010



Gringo Heisenberg posted:

Does anyone have a link to that old thread about all the hosed up stuff wrestlers have done? I think it was something like Carnies, rapists, and something: the wrestling dirt thread. that was a good thread

Fun fact: a lot of the rumors in that thread came from a thread on the Death Valley Driver board that was created by Tony Khan.

https://web.archive.org/web/20050308041405/http://board.deathvalleydriver.com/index.php?showtopic=19896&view=all

Regrettable fucked around with this message at 02:38 on May 18, 2023

Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


The undisputed world champion of wrestling effortposting

Gringo Heisenberg posted:

Does anyone have a link to that old thread about all the hosed up stuff wrestlers have done? I think it was something like Carnies, rapists, and something: the wrestling dirt thread. that was a good thread

I don't know about that thread, but digging through the depths of my computer made me find this that I put on a Google Doc.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fMe4vfVY6sRMVF4s1aiOXjc8KOt2r2GDPklSCKjWx94/edit?usp=sharing

It's rather out of date, and is probably 90 percent bullshit at least, but hey...stories are stories.

MD2020
May 30, 2003

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

GolfHole posted:

has anyone ever done a telekinesis gimmick where they have all sorts of crazy professor x powers and can move people with their minds


second question was it any good lmao

Not telekinesis, but there was one instance of using the power of the mind to control your opponents.

Of course, promotions had to ban this move due to its intense illegality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xIYVw3ZPJk

Beer_Suitcase
May 3, 2005

Verily, the whip is ghost riding.



Gringo Heisenberg posted:

Does anyone have a link to that old thread about all the hosed up stuff wrestlers have done? I think it was something like Carnies, rapists, and something: the wrestling dirt thread. that was a good thread

I have this old link I've saved forever just for this purpose

https://www.angelfire.com/wrestling3/kotdm15/listsleeze.html

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

While we're on lists, here's a review of some of the things Hulk Hogan has made up over the years: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7WTm-6JSds

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

Mulaney Power Move posted:

While we're on lists, here's a review of some of the things Hulk Hogan has made up over the years: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7WTm-6JSds

not long enough

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014
hulk hogan changes the story of wrestlemania 3 constantly it owns

Flinger
Oct 16, 2012

Jim Cornette might not be a liar but he is a big piece of poo poo

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

Flinger posted:

Jim Cornette might not be a liar but he is a big piece of poo poo

he's a carnie piece of poo poo but his stories about the territory days are interesting just never listen to him talk about anything else

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014
jim cornette worked himself into a shoot brother

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

i stole "thank you very little, you're welcome even less" from jim and i'm not giving it back

Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


The undisputed world champion of wrestling effortposting

Beer_Suitcase posted:

I have this old link I've saved forever just for this purpose

https://www.angelfire.com/wrestling3/kotdm15/listsleeze.html

Ironically the same list of stuff I posted.

Honestly, I think between the concussion issue in pro wrestling and 'you are what you pretend to be', I think Terry Bollea is less a liar and more he can no longer really tell the difference between his recollections, stories, and lies and the actual truth. It all just slushes together in his brain. I mean, hell, look at the last page's examination of Ric Flair's sad state. It's the same thing: Ric Flair utterly consumed Richard Felair and Ric Flair is not a way for a person to live. Same with Ultimate Warrior: the gimmick ate him alive.

That's one part of wrestling being 'fake' that the bad faith critics never consider: these men and women are stuck in their roles for longer than any other acting type. I mean yeah, you can point to say, Daniel Day Lewis and his insane method acting, but he only lost himself inside Bill the Butcher or Abraham Lincoln for several months at most, then he got to change roles or be himself if he wanted, and any sane person doesn't expect an actor to be the same as their character all the time (at best you might get them to briefly pull them out, like Giancarlo Esposito occasionally slipping into Gus from Breaking Bad's skin for a few seconds for a selfie bit) But wrestlers have to be 'the gimmick' so much more, and everyone expects them to be that way. And the quote is dead accurate. Be careful who you pretend to be, because you are who you pretend to be. Mixed with human failings, and well...

Cornwind Evil fucked around with this message at 04:49 on May 19, 2023

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014
one of ric flairs wifes didnt even know wrestling was fake until the 90's because he never told her

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16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014
one of the things that traumatized jake the snake (not the only one his childhood was a mess and his father was a genuine monster) was his father faking his neck being broken in an angle and never telling jake or his family that it was all fake

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