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Automotive Journalism is a loving joke. (Isnt everything though?) Everyone is so starved for clicks, that all it takes is a "My uncle works at XXXXX, and he said the model YYYYY is for sure coming out" mention on a forum or car show, and you have 4 or 5 websites reporting it as gospel. I especially loving hate when they ask a CEO or someone behind the scenes at the company a question, and they get a non committal /safe answer, but they still run with it. Reporter: Hey so before you get on your plane Jim Farley, I have to ask, Im hearing some rumblings on some sub reddits that you all are preparing a version of the Maverick with the Raptor R engine. All for around $25K. Care to elaborate when that might be available to the public? Jim Farley: *Uncomfortably laughs* "Wouldnt that be something? Haha. We are always looking for new excited ideas for the future" Reporter: Well, he didnt shoot down the rumor. Id say we can easily put the Maverick Raptor R on our '10 Vehicles worth waiting for list 2024' Then the next month Car and Driver has a render of the vehicle on their cover.
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# ? May 16, 2023 16:23 |
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# ? May 29, 2024 17:28 |
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Gotta get yer clicks
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# ? May 16, 2023 16:25 |
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Yeah every time I try to find out more info about the toyota stout it's just a bunch of clickbait bullshit and no real information
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# ? May 16, 2023 16:36 |
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I’ve found the internet bubble makes it feel like there is more attention or activity than there really is. I mean how many people in my daily life care about any of this or would ever read a word of an “article” for this?
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# ? May 16, 2023 16:57 |
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That's not the first time disproportionately loud internet voices have gotten IRL attention, and it absolutely won't be the last
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# ? May 16, 2023 17:05 |
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i just hate when they title it as new pics of bumpus mobile and you click it and the video is ai voice and an uncle jim's forum photoshop of an f150 with a fused bed cap and the video is 7 minutes long and just reads out reddit posts
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# ? May 16, 2023 17:13 |
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Yep. I refuse to click on anything now regarding the stout until Toyota's own official reveal
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# ? May 16, 2023 18:03 |
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What ever happened to the Maverick version that is hybrid AND AWD? I remember tons of magazines and articles mentioned this was going to be a thing when talking about the Maverick coming out. And then I felt like right before the reveal they went "its only Hybrid in FWD, but the AWD version is totally coming soon!" Did that just go away as rumor/bullshit?
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# ? May 16, 2023 19:09 |
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Franco Caution posted:What ever happened to the Maverick version that is hybrid AND AWD? Ford has been seen testing a plug-in hybrid version, and everybody just jumped to conclusions that it would have an electric rear axle.
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# ? May 16, 2023 19:21 |
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Powershift posted:Ford has been seen testing a plug-in hybrid version, and everybody just jumped to conclusions that it would have an electric rear axle. That was pretty speculative. The primary evidence I've seen presented of a PHEV Maverick was a blurry picture of one with an EVAP canister remote-mounted to the door which people interpreted as having 'PHEV' written on it but just as well could have been 'FHEV'. IIRC it was also around the timeframe that Ford also got the emissions certification on the Hybrid changed from ULEV50 to SULEV30. Also there were some camouflaged Tremor mules at that time getting their own emissions/economy testing. And the PHEV Escape isn't even available as AWD. Only the Lincoln Corsair does the eAWD thing while the Escape Hybrid utilizes a driveshaft. Mike Levine (Ford NA Product Communication Director) has said they don't feel a plug-in Maverick is necessary. As for a regular Hybrid AWD? I suspect Ford isn't in a big rush there because they can barely meet demand on them as it is.
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# ? May 16, 2023 20:09 |
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quote:Enthusiasts rejoice: a six-speed intelligent manual transmission (iMT2) with automatic rev matching and anti-stall technology is available. Manual transmission models produce 270 horsepower and 310 lb.-ft. of torque
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# ? May 19, 2023 03:40 |
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Nohearum posted:Is Turbo Manual 4WD Taco the new Turbo Manual AWD Wagon? I'm about 75% sure that Toyota has made exactly one (1) turbo manual AWD wagon excluding diesels and it's the Caldina GT-T which is why I was so stoked to actually get my hands on one. Since they make GR-branded Land Cruisers in cooler countries than ours, think we'll get a GR Tacoma? GR Tundra? GR Sequoia?
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# ? May 19, 2023 04:16 |
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I'm still somewhat shocked Toyota put as much effort into this as they did. A ton of trim levels, different cab options, different bed lengths, manual option, heated and cooled seats, heated steering wheel, adaptive suspension, hybrid, and a few out there yet nice color options. That purple/blue is sexy. Meanwhile GMC and Chevy were like 'the twins come one way now. We didn't really try at all this generation. gently caress you!" I think the only thing that looks off on the new Taco is on some of the Trims it has this really long Hockey Goalie neck protector thing on the front air drat. Im sure thats for MPG, but that poo poo is huge and looks weird.
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# ? May 19, 2023 04:19 |
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"IsoDynamic Performance Seat" eh? Welcome to the late 80s and early 90s in Toyota's Japan. What's old is new again
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# ? May 19, 2023 05:05 |
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KakerMix posted:I'm about 75% sure that Toyota has made exactly one (1) turbo manual AWD wagon excluding diesels and it's the Caldina GT-T which is why I was so stoked to actually get my hands on one. I was gunna say two if you count the ST240 gen, but they were auto only
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# ? May 19, 2023 05:44 |
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Hyundai again just loving around for the press attention with no intention of actually selling anything this cool. I'm happy to see my guy Guigiaro getting paid but this sort of thing is such a cock tease when the stuff that filters down and eventually gets sold looks so uninspiring. https://twitter.com/responsejp/status/1659469216842649600?t=wBxR9zsyrNi1ossTyELrFA&s=19
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# ? May 19, 2023 11:39 |
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I actually think that the Ioniq 6 looks really slick and I'm impressed they shipped a car like that. It's probably going to look dated in a few years but at least it's trying. I think the Elantra has too many angles and creases right now, though.
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# ? May 19, 2023 14:18 |
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Hyundai again just loving around for the press attention with no intention of actually selling anything this cool. I'm happy to see my guy Guigiaro getting paid but this sort of thing is such a cock tease when the stuff that filters down and eventually gets sold looks so uninspiring. Haha, what, did they really go "No you idiots we aren't making anything like the 74. Also check out this cool thing we'll never make either"??
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# ? May 19, 2023 14:20 |
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i'm just glad they're having fun, you don't usually get to do that anymore
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# ? May 19, 2023 14:20 |
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Sab669 posted:Haha, what, did they really go "No you idiots we aren't making anything like the 74. Also check out this cool thing we'll never make either"?? Hyundai are the industry's worst cockteases currently, yes.
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# ? May 19, 2023 14:42 |
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What’s the point of having back seats if you have that stupid suspension chair in your Taco. I can’t wait to see a starting msrp on the base model in Canada be ridiculous.
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# ? May 19, 2023 14:51 |
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Can’t wait to see the markup on a manual trd off road Then again the 2 door TRD Prerunner is tempting though Koirhor fucked around with this message at 16:16 on May 19, 2023 |
# ? May 19, 2023 16:10 |
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That truck is gently caress-ugly
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# ? May 19, 2023 17:23 |
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I wish they'd make a two door land cruiser variant on the Tacoma platform with the turbo 4cyl and manual transmission to give us a more reliable competitor to the Wrangler and Bronco. They can use the same design language as they got for the new Taco, Sequoia and Tundra, just shrunk to a shorter wheel base but with all the offroad credentials and Toyota reliability.
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# ? May 19, 2023 17:33 |
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Does that new tacoma finally come with rear discs?
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# ? May 19, 2023 17:46 |
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Hyundai are the industry's worst cockteases currently, yes. It'd be funny if it happened like 2 more times, each concept getting closer and closer to an actual production one and then they finally actually make it
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# ? May 19, 2023 18:21 |
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wesleywillis posted:Does that new tacoma finally come with rear discs? It does! Some of the offroad trims are a bit much, but the lower spec models and the limited look alright to me. Should be fun to drive with 465ft/lb and a 6 speed as well. EDIT drat, no manual with the top engine spec. sanchez fucked around with this message at 18:53 on May 19, 2023 |
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FBS posted:That truck is gently caress-ugly Fugly, if you will.
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# ? May 19, 2023 18:58 |
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They're going to sell every single one of those they can build for a fat markup for the next three years at least. The old Taco was outdated, uncomfortable, and ugly and this new one looks like a decent truck that's even uglier.
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# ? May 19, 2023 19:06 |
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Ugly seems to be a selling point for trucks these days
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# ? May 19, 2023 19:10 |
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Sab669 posted:Haha, what, did they really go "No you idiots we aren't making anything like the 74. Also check out this cool thing we'll never make either"?? That’s the 1974 Pony Coupe concept, they rebuilt it because the original was apparently lost
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# ? May 19, 2023 20:29 |
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What's with that bizarre overhang over the rear lights? I mean it's better than recent BMWs but let's be honest with ourselves, the bar is on the floor. It's just a shittier looking clownshoe. https://twitter.com/BMW/status/1659640333548892162?t=q1zFpmVA9Cyhza1KnrJzZw&s=19
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# ? May 19, 2023 21:06 |
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Thomas has a quick look at it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3HVTHS6Qgc
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# ? May 19, 2023 21:15 |
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the back has jag energy and although normally i would say that's a good thing it don't quite work to me
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# ? May 19, 2023 21:31 |
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Olympic Mathlete posted:What's with that bizarre overhang over the rear lights? God drat it. I would probably drive this.
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# ? May 19, 2023 21:40 |
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BMW tweets that BMW just made the car of BMW's dreams?
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# ? May 19, 2023 22:15 |
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Throatwarbler posted:BMW tweets that BMW just made the car of BMW's dreams? 😍😍😍😍
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# ? May 19, 2023 22:40 |
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phosdex posted:Thomas has a quick look at it: I love it tbh.
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# ? May 20, 2023 00:05 |
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lol the grille is actually nice and BMW too ashamed to post it on twitter
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# ? May 29, 2024 17:28 |
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So they made this concept car thing that will never see light of day and painted it… gray???
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