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https://twitter.com/sumokyokai/status/1659412725171392515
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# ? May 19, 2023 06:18 |
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# ? May 26, 2024 02:07 |
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NO
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# ? May 19, 2023 06:24 |
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godspeed you beautiful mountain of a man
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# ? May 19, 2023 07:00 |
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Started watching Juryo matches on Natto, video unavailable after 2 minutes, refresh and see that the account has been terminated. Gutted that Toshi is retiring, but have to admit he has been a shadow of his former self for too long now, and it is for the best.
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# ? May 19, 2023 08:57 |
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Lmao, thanks BloodyElbow! Edit: Anyway it seems like someone is squatting the NattoSumo5 username, so we're on 6 now: https://www.youtube.com/@nattosumo6 Makushita and Juryo for today up 15 minutes ago...uh was gonna say presumably makuuchi any minute now but then I realized it's like 5:30 pm in Japan so we've still got 30 minutes of live action.
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# ? May 19, 2023 09:25 |
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I came across this video on NHK World: Miyagino Sho: Hakuho's Next Chapter
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# ? May 19, 2023 15:59 |
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Sad news with Tochinoshin but he had a great career and brought many of us lots of sumo joy. For that we can always be thankful.
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# ? May 19, 2023 16:55 |
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I didn't know what to expect when I started watching sumo, but a buff AF Georgian forklifting dudes out of the ring was enough to get me interested - sad to see Tochi go
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# ? May 19, 2023 19:16 |
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a youtube video of tochi regaining ozeki with 10 wins got me into sumo. thanks to that video of that man i got to witness some of the best sporting moments possible. love that georgian giant.
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# ? May 19, 2023 20:21 |
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Tochinoshin’s chest and abdominal muscles during his peak were like a sculpture.
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# ? May 19, 2023 21:04 |
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Tochi and Osunaarashi were pretty much pulled straight out of a Frank Frazetta drawing
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# ? May 20, 2023 00:59 |
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https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2023/05/20/kiji/20230520s00005000199000c.html Endo withdrawing as of today; his old left knee injury from 2015 has flared up
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# ? May 20, 2023 03:23 |
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I feel like the top division is full of sumo-relative smaller guys compared to when I started watching in 2016. More guys with the leaner, Hakuho build than like Kotoshogiku or Kisenosato.
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# ? May 20, 2023 04:43 |
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Shiroc posted:I feel like the top division is full of sumo-relative smaller guys compared to when I started watching in 2016. More guys with the leaner, Hakuho build than like Kotoshogiku or Kisenosato. I am relatively new to Sumo but I really like seeing these strongman-style builds. Kotoeko's build for instance is practically Olympian. Those shoulders are incredible. But also, I love how many different types of builds and bodies you see in sumo. Human diversity is beautiful. It is also cool when they charge into each other really hard and throw each other around and stuff.
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# ? May 20, 2023 05:07 |
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I was never a big Tochinoshin fan but his Ozeki run had one of my favourite matches ever: In Natsu of 2018 Tochinoshin was in the crucial third basho of his Ozeki run, and was entering day 12 with a perfect score. It was basically a lock that he was going to get his Ozeki promotion, but he now had to face Hakuho. Hakuho had withdrawn from Hatsu 2018 with injury, and did not participate in Haru 2018. This meant that Tochinoshin had yet to face Hakuho in his entire Ozeki campaign. He had also yet to beat Hakuho ever. His career record against Hakuho was 0 and 25. For a period of about ten years, Hakuho had beaten Tochinoshin at every single opportunity. Tochinoshin however was in the form of his life and had been outmuscling everybody on the belt. So, of course, Hakuho being Hakuho, attempts to beat him at the thing he is best at. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDJWW1cd5lc It's just a great example of sumo at it's most macho. Hakuho could have easily just done what he usually does and beat Tochinoshin with finesse and speed, but here he is so determined to prove that he is physically stronger or at least a match for Tochinoshin that he gets beat. Reminds me a lot of Hakuho's last match with Terunofuji as well, Hakuho just can't help himself trying to one-up people. Anyways Tochinoshin will be missed and I'm curious what life after sumo will be like for him, as he I believe owns property back in Georgia and will probably be leaving sumo behind now.
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# ? May 20, 2023 05:48 |
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Also on the subject of retired Georgian sumo wrestlers (a segue I will likely never get to use again), ex-Gagamaru had ex-Yutakayama on his podcast for an interview and Kintamayama translated the following excerpts:Kintamayama's newsletter posted:Ex-Gagamaru had ex-Yutakayama on his youtube channel today. They spoke of the past, specifically about Yokozuna Kakuryuu's then oyakata, Izutsu. " We used to all meet at Tokitsukaze beya which is famous for it's degeiko and the fact that a lot of sekitori converge upon it..The Oyakata was a nice guy but when it came to Yokozuna Kakuryuu, he was all over him, shouting at him with extreme rage. And i mean, he did not hold back.. We used to feel awkward about it and wondered how to react. He was really nice to everyone else but was really tough on Kakuryuu. I was scared shitless of him," said Gagamaru. "Right, it was awful -he was scary.. He never got angry with us guys, but when he flew off on Kakuryuu.." agreed ex-Yutakayama. I have occasionally posted interesting stuff from Kinatamayama's newsletters here; I hope somebody will let me know if it's unwelcome, uninteresting, or against some rule or other.
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# ? May 20, 2023 05:54 |
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I think it’s great! Thanks for posting
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# ? May 20, 2023 08:12 |
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Lucasar posted:I hope somebody will let me know if it's unwelcome, uninteresting, or against some rule or other. None of these, love it!
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# ? May 20, 2023 09:49 |
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drat. Good run, Tochinoshin. I hope his retirement is excellent.
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# ? May 20, 2023 11:33 |
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Day 7: Big Doofus Abi first shamefully henkaing the smallest wrestler in the division, then trying to do it AGAIN on the torinaoshi was hilarious. Absolute galoot. As much as I dislike oshi-zumo, Daieisho is terrifying and really impressive when he's on form. Teru looking terrifying so far, but he hasn't gone up against top level competition yet. We'll see if he can keep it up in the second week
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# ? May 20, 2023 12:02 |
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We're at the halfway point and any questions about Terunofuji have to have been dispelled at this point. He seems to be fully in control, even if there are 2 others with perfect records. We'll probably start to see if Asanoyama can keep the wins going this basho in the next few days as he'll have to start going up against some stronger competition. Edit: I had completely forgotten that Asanoyama was a Covid protocol demotion. Clearly he should be winning at this point but how soon they throw the highest ranks at him will be something to watch Day 7 Standings: code:
Robviously fucked around with this message at 13:37 on May 20, 2023 |
# ? May 20, 2023 12:34 |
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Ahhh yes, winning in jungyo.
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# ? May 20, 2023 15:45 |
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Thank you Robviously, I see my Exhibition Brand of Sumo is doing well.
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# ? May 20, 2023 17:26 |
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Lucasar posted:It's just a great example of sumo at it's most macho. Hakuho could have easily just done what he usually does and beat Tochinoshin with finesse and speed, but here he is so determined to prove that he is physically stronger or at least a match for Tochinoshin that he gets beat. Reminds me a lot of Hakuho's last match with Terunofuji as well, Hakuho just can't help himself trying to one-up people. I mean, Hak clearly believed he could win that (and on most days I'd say he would have), but going into that fight there was no other plan than to give Tochi a squared-up belt battle with his preferred grip and let him try his best. quote:Anyways Tochinoshin will be missed and I'm curious what life after sumo will be like for him, as he I believe owns property back in Georgia and will probably be leaving sumo behind now.
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# ? May 20, 2023 20:03 |
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Khachapuri for all! With WTK away and now big Tochi retiring this basho is the absolute biggest bummer in my sumo watching days yet.
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# ? May 20, 2023 20:13 |
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bartolimu posted:That's one way of seeing it, but here's another: Hakuho's always had an incredibly good sense of important moments. He's more in love with sumo - the drama of it, not just the execution of the sport - than probably anyone else on the planet. Every time before that match, Tochi was just another rikshi coming for him and got dispatched in whatever way he could manage. This match was different: the guy's on an Ozeki run, competing for the yusho, and obviously in the best form he's ever been in. It would be supremely disappointing for the audience if Hakuho beat Tochi in a way that didn't let him show off his style. The best story is either the GOAT faces a challenger on the challenger's terms and wins, or the plucky challenger actually pulls it off and asserts his style over the great Yokozuna. Well, he also henka'd several people in potentially climactic fights. Look at that infamous Harumafuji bout, or the Kisenoasato one (which was hilarious, to be fair). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cfY3XFm63U
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# ? May 20, 2023 20:20 |
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bartolimu posted:It would be supremely disappointing for the audience if Hakuho beat Tochi in a way that didn't let him show off his style. I think this is another way of making the same point; Hakuho's ego wouldn't let him do it the easy way. And I don't mean that as a criticism at all, Hakuho frequently enjoyed trying to beat people at the thing they were strongest, especially for up-and-comers. His early matches with Takakeisho where he just slaps him around or goes out of stance are another example of this mentality. Hakuho's showmanship and competitiveness are two aspects of the same conceit.
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# ? May 20, 2023 20:39 |
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In short, Hakuho is a man of contrasts.
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# ? May 20, 2023 20:42 |
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Hakuho henkaing Harumafuji was very funny and something that a Yokozuna shouldn’t have fallen for so hilariously. e: To expand on it a little, it would have been super lame if it was a usual sidestep hatakikomi. Given Hakuho's superhuman ability to read bodies, I wonder if he could just tell that Harumafuji was preparing to recklessly explode out and decided to let him. Shiroc fucked around with this message at 23:37 on May 20, 2023 |
# ? May 20, 2023 23:19 |
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Khizan posted:One of the things about Hokuseiho is that he's never had a 'real' make-koshi. The only time he failed to get his KK was when he went kyujo on the second day of Kyushu 2021. Other than that he's never put up a score worse than 5-2/9-6 despite his sumo style being "be huge and let them get tired trying to shove you". I think he's mostly got a case of "It's not broken so I'm not fixing it" and he's not going to change things up until he starts losing and has to. Catching up on the thread so late, but somewhat relevant: Hakuho is his coach and is notorious for being absolutely fantastic at giving advice (Kotonowaka and Ura being a couple of examples where he beat them and then gave them a tip and they started murdering people the rest of the tourney). So I have to imagine that if there was something he was supposed to be changing, he'd be changing it. Also my fondest memory of Hakuho doing Hakuho things was smacking Shodai after lining up literally at the edge of the ring (e.g. no room to move if he was hit at the tachiai at all) which was apparently so disrespectful the Yokozuna Deliberation Council had an article written about it to censure him (https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14399422).
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# ? May 21, 2023 03:09 |
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The rivalry of the YDC vainly telling off Hakuho and him not caring is the greatest in sumo. There should be a list of how many times people demanded Hakuho retire over the decades.
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# ? May 21, 2023 03:16 |
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Someone who had earned the right to say things like this posted:“I would like to praise myself,” the yokozuna said.
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# ? May 21, 2023 03:31 |
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Oh I didn't even notice that Ochiai is 7-0 so far lmao kid's gonna hit maegashira with short hair
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# ? May 21, 2023 04:30 |
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wodin posted:Also my fondest memory of Hakuho doing Hakuho things was smacking Shodai after lining up literally at the edge of the ring (e.g. no room to move if he was hit at the tachiai at all) which was apparently so disrespectful the Yokozuna Deliberation Council had an article written about it to censure him (https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14399422). Hakuho has claimed in interviews that this wasn't a sign of disrespect but the only way he could think of to beat Shodai with his condition at that point in the basho. Presumably he knew Shodai would warm up that day, or something, I dunno. Or he's just BSing to avoid soundling like a jerk.
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# ? May 21, 2023 05:01 |
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https://youtu.be/1VqAr2LYGzU Tochinoshin
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# ? May 21, 2023 07:26 |
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NOSHIN!
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# ? May 21, 2023 10:55 |
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It was an active day today as Terunofuji now stands alone unbeaten. Asanoyama and Meisei both suffered their first loss but there are still 8 other rikishi with 6 wins including Myogiru. After winning his first bout, Kotoshoho has racked up 7 straight losses putting him on the cusp of make-koshi. If the current trends keep up, we'll have an exciting final few days of sumo to go. The race for Ozeki is also still heating up; Daieisho and Kiribayama are the two most likely to get the wins needed and they look to be set to face off on Day 9. A loss for either wouldn't immediately knock them out of contention but the road will get more difficult. Day 8 Standings: code:
Robviously fucked around with this message at 18:07 on May 21, 2023 |
# ? May 21, 2023 17:45 |
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Day 8: Whoever it was that said they cheer for Hokuseiho by shouting "BE BIG" stuck in my head and now I do it too, and you better believe I was screaming BE BIG as he beat Asanoyama/
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# ? May 21, 2023 17:57 |
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Day 9: MEISEI MOTHERFUCKERS
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# ? May 22, 2023 12:31 |
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# ? May 26, 2024 02:07 |
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Hokuseiho looks like a sumo action figure which some kid ripped the legs off of and jammed in freakishly long ken doll legs. And I’m here for it.
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# ? May 22, 2023 13:15 |