Aeronautical Insanity: switching to secondary tolerances

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hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

ImplicitAssembler posted:

Speaking of full-on autos:
MD500's have about the worst glide ratio of any helicopters and probably worse than most bricks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3AXPlIbO6g&t=238s

Definitely, for example check out this brick:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWy3QYBOnyE

# ? May 19, 2023 17:39

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# ? May 26, 2024 02:51

Warbird: May 23, 2012; America's Favorite Dumbass

No idea why but those videos triggered this memory so we can all just sit here and enjoy it again:

https://youtu.be/JQORXWmGMGk

# ? May 19, 2023 19:19

slidebite: Nov 6, 2005; Good egg

https://viewfromthewing.com/passenger-kicked-off-flight-after-turning-her-coach-row-of-seats-into-a-fort-using-plastic-wrap/

# ? May 19, 2023 23:28

in a well actually: Jan 26, 2011; dude, you gotta end it on the rhyme

slidebite posted:

https://viewfromthewing.com/passenger-kicked-off-flight-after-turning-her-coach-row-of-seats-into-a-fort-using-plastic-wrap/

You have to be in business at a minimum to do that.

# ? May 19, 2023 23:33

slidebite: Nov 6, 2005; Good egg

Next time I fly business I'm going to ask for a whole bunch of pillows and blankets and do that.

# ? May 20, 2023 00:16

Wingnut Ninja: Jan 11, 2003; Mostly Harmless

in a well actually posted:

You have to be in business at a minimum to do that.

It also helps if you're in a fake airplane cabin intentionally creating a viral video.

# ? May 20, 2023 00:21

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

Wingnut Ninja posted:

It also helps if you're in a fake airplane cabin intentionally creating a viral video.

It says it�s a dramatization based on real events. Comments say that it�s Delta�s FA training facility and everyone in the video is a FA instructor. I wonder if they�re doing �wild poo poo passengers have done� skits for training videos and this is just the funniest.

# ? May 20, 2023 02:09

Cojawfee: May 31, 2006; I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

That explains why the lady in the row behind is helping to build it.

# ? May 20, 2023 02:38

FrozenVent: May 1, 2009; The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Lady that�s helping build it is barefoot though so either she�s an unruly passenger or she�s very committed to the bit

# ? May 20, 2023 04:28

BIG HEADLINE: Jun 13, 2006; "Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

slidebite posted:

Next time I fly business I'm going to ask for a whole bunch of pillows and blankets and do that.

"Your authority is not recognized in Fort Kickass!" :colbert:

(the Captain comes back)

"Yours is, though." :smith:

# ? May 20, 2023 04:28

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

FrozenVent posted:

Lady that�s helping build it is barefoot though so either she�s an unruly passenger or she�s very committed to the bit

Those safety videos are mostly Delta employees and I�m pretty sure everyone in uniform is, except for when making an airplane! joke, and have been since the original deltalina one. They appear to have no lack of employees that want to commit to bits.

# ? May 20, 2023 05:00

Cactus Ghost: Dec 20, 2003; you can actually inflate your scrote pretty safely with sterile saline, syringes, needles, and aseptic technique. its a niche kink iirc

the saline just slowly gets absorbed into your blood but in the meantime you got a big round smooth distended nutsack

quote:

After her plastic wrap home is demolished, the passenger threatens to rebuild it � pointing out that she has a �backup� roll with her.

im in love

# ? May 20, 2023 10:44

PT6A: Jan 5, 2006; Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Psion posted:

code:
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 6.0">
frontpage got bundled into Office after version 4, but I believe 6.0 is FrontPage/Office XP, the finest of 2001-era software.

It certainly feels about right. But hey, it loaded fast! There's something to be said for not forcing three megabytes of javascript on every visitor to render some basic HTML.

But Psion, we imagine based on absolutely no evidence, that our visitors demand parallax scroll sections! And if you know a better way to do it than all of jQuery plus 6 additional poorly maintained add-ons, I'd like to hear it!

# ? May 21, 2023 00:31

Hadlock: Nov 9, 2004

So I found out you can get a 10 year loan on a used airplane

1) what's the oldest plane you can buy on a note? For most boats it's 20 years although there's sometimes specialty lenders. FAA has really strict licensing, inspection and maintenance requirements so I'm guessing you might be able to buy something as old as 50 years on a note assuming it's got some kind of current air worthiness certificate?
2) what's the sweet spot airplane to buy for a family of four going from the bay area to Tahoe once a month, with low price vs capability. I guess Cessna is super popular which probably drives down total cost of ownership. Looks like a bunch of sites break down monthly total cost but it's hard to figure out which meets those needs

# ? May 21, 2023 02:04

Sagebrush: Feb 26, 2012

four people + operating at tahoe i would say means minimally a 182 for safety. and you'd still be pushing it with a family's worth of baggage and/or summer ops

Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 02:21 on May 21, 2023

# ? May 21, 2023 02:19

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

Sagebrush posted:

four people + operating at tahoe i would say means minimally a 182 for safety. and you'd still be pushing it with a family's worth of baggage and/or summer ops

Useful load of 1110lb, 588lb fuel. Oof. That really sounds like it needs a 206 and those seem to be like $250k min. It looks like O-540 overhauls are $70k too so throw in one of those too because the ones on controller I saw round there need one soon.

# ? May 21, 2023 02:37

Platystemon: Feb 13, 2012; BREADS

Hadlock posted:

1) what's the oldest plane you can buy on a note? For most boats it's 20 years although there's sometimes specialty lenders. FAA has really strict licensing, inspection and maintenance requirements so I'm guessing you might be able to buy something as old as 50 years on a note assuming it's got some kind of current air worthiness certificate?

I don�t know why they would accept a 1974 Mooney but a 1938 Piper Cub is just a bridge too far.

# ? May 21, 2023 02:43

Mr. Wiggles: Dec 1, 2003; We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

I want to see a Catalina with the Tahoe boating stickers under the cabin window now.

# ? May 21, 2023 04:23

Hadlock: Nov 9, 2004

Ok so basically 250k for a Cessna 206 which is basically the Toyota Camry of airplanes. Ok thanks

Platystemon posted:

I don’t know why they would accept a 1974 Mooney but a 1938 Piper Cub is just a bridge too far.

I think I understand this joke, but also, looks like it seats max two? Wikipedia says there was a three seater glider variant at one point

# ? May 21, 2023 04:57

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

More like a Land Cruiser if you�re stuck on Toyotas.

# ? May 21, 2023 05:04

ImplicitAssembler: Jan 24, 2013

Hadlock posted:

2) what's the sweet spot airplane to buy for a family of four going from the bay area to Tahoe once a month, with low price vs capability. I guess Cessna is super popular which probably drives down total cost of ownership. Looks like a bunch of sites break down monthly total cost but it's hard to figure out which meets those needs

Yak 18T..or get an AN-2 and take the in-laws with you too.

# ? May 21, 2023 05:16

Infinotize: Sep 5, 2003

Hadlock posted:

So I found out you can get a 10 year loan on a used airplane

1) what's the oldest plane you can buy on a note? For most boats it's 20 years although there's sometimes specialty lenders. FAA has really strict licensing, inspection and maintenance requirements so I'm guessing you might be able to buy something as old as 50 years on a note assuming it's got some kind of current air worthiness certificate?
2) what's the sweet spot airplane to buy for a family of four going from the bay area to Tahoe once a month, with low price vs capability. I guess Cessna is super popular which probably drives down total cost of ownership. Looks like a bunch of sites break down monthly total cost but it's hard to figure out which meets those needs

Not sure if this post is more BWM or future NTSB report

# ? May 21, 2023 05:26

Hadlock: Nov 9, 2004

Infinotize posted:

Not sure if this post is more BWM or future NTSB report

I already have a note on a boat so it's ~~probably~~ BWM

# ? May 21, 2023 05:30

Psion: Dec 13, 2002; eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

"what is the cheapest, oldest plane i can buy" really feels like going at this in the wrong order, not gonna lie

PT6A posted:

But Psion, we imagine based on absolutely no evidence, that our visitors demand parallax scroll sections! And if you know a better way to do it than all of jQuery plus 6 additional poorly maintained add-ons, I'd like to hear it!

React and 25 poorly maintained addons, of course. with 350 dev dependencies.

I did once work on a site which loaded jquery twice (two versions) and that wasn't even the worst of our performance issues so it never got fixed. Perhaps not even to this day, I refuse to check.

# ? May 21, 2023 05:32

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

Infinotize posted:

Not sure if this post is more BWM or future NTSB report

Well, nobody has recommended a bonanza, but that does fit the bill and this is the classic �doctor killer� path.

# ? May 21, 2023 05:35

Cactus Ghost: Dec 20, 2003; you can actually inflate your scrote pretty safely with sterile saline, syringes, needles, and aseptic technique. its a niche kink iirc

the saline just slowly gets absorbed into your blood but in the meantime you got a big round smooth distended nutsack

there are no cheap planes

# ? May 21, 2023 06:42

Triggerhappypilot: Nov 8, 2009; SVMS-01 UNION FLAG GREATEST MOBILE SUIT

ENACT = CHEAP EUROTRASH COPY

hobbesmaster posted:

Well, nobody has recommended a bonanza, but that does fit the bill and this is the classic �doctor killer� path.

Old 206 can take up the mantle of "goon killer*"

*current title holder: Nissan GT:R

# ? May 21, 2023 06:46

Hadlock: Nov 9, 2004

OMGVBFLOL posted:

there are no cheap planes

This thread should probably be in BFC and retitled BWM: Aeronautical Insanity: there are no cheap planes

I should probably go get my license

# ? May 21, 2023 06:55

Hadlock: Nov 9, 2004

Triggerhappypilot posted:

Old 206 can take up the mantle of "goon killer*"

*current title holder: Nissan GT:R

# ? May 21, 2023 06:56

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

Hadlock posted:

So I found out you can get a 10 year loan on a used airplane

1) what's the oldest plane you can buy on a note? For most boats it's 20 years although there's sometimes specialty lenders. FAA has really strict licensing, inspection and maintenance requirements so I'm guessing you might be able to buy something as old as 50 years on a note assuming it's got some kind of current air worthiness certificate?
2) what's the sweet spot airplane to buy for a family of four going from the bay area to Tahoe once a month, with low price vs capability. I guess Cessna is super popular which probably drives down total cost of ownership. Looks like a bunch of sites break down monthly total cost but it's hard to figure out which meets those needs

Are you sponsored by ridge wallet by any chance?

# ? May 21, 2023 06:57

Hadlock: Nov 9, 2004

I don't understand this in this specific context but I had one I've had for like, I dunno 8 years until my toddler dropped it in the ocean 8 months ago

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01N35XJXP

If anyone needs any earbuds, weird knives or meal supplements hmu :allears:

# ? May 21, 2023 07:16

Platystemon: Feb 13, 2012; BREADS

Hadlock posted:

I don't understand this in this specific context

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-05-11/youtuber-pilot-trevor-jacobs-admits-plane-crash-destroyed-evidence posted:

About a year and a half ago, a 29-year-old former Olympic snowboarder jumped out of his single-propeller plane on a flight from Lompoc to Mammoth Lakes, claiming he parachuted out of the aircraft because of engine trouble.

It was a lie � a videotaped stunt intended to bring viewers to the pilot�s YouTube page.

The pilot, Trevor Jacob, agreed to plead guilty Thursday to a felony charge of �obstructing a federal investigation by deliberately destroying the wreckage of an airplane that he intentionally crashed in Santa Barbara County to gain online views,� according to the U.S. Attorney�s Office, Central District of California.

[�]

The Justice Department release says that Jacob had obtained a sponsorship from a company whose wallet he would promote in the plane video.

A previous version of the video showed Jacobs advertising a promotional link for the Ridge Wallet while standing in front of the plane. The link he advertised, which contained his name, still worked for an active promotion on the Ridge�s website as of Thursday.

Representatives for the Ridge did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the state of their partnership with Jacob.

# ? May 21, 2023 07:22

CAT INTERCEPTOR: Nov 9, 2004; Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

OMGVBFLOL posted:

there are no cheap planes

If it fucks, flies or floats, rent it by the hour

# ? May 21, 2023 07:45

Hadlock: Nov 9, 2004

Oh that explains the second result on this site, sorting lowest to highest

https://www.controller.com/listing/for-sale/223508807/1966-cessna-u206-stationair-piston-single-aircraft

quote:

N1954L is a low engine time Skydiving U206B set up and ready for a skydiving operation …

I've not bought a used aircraft before, but mildly concerned that someone is questioning buying a low cost FAA certified well maintained plane :ohdearsass: