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HonorableTB posted:Til you see how many Russians it took out of the fight and for how long Yeah, people kept comparing Bakhmut to Stalingrad, but I really thought more of Kursk, where the Nazis just ground themselves down to a nub just be counterattacked into dust.
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May 21, 2023 18:49
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If I learned that Lavrov's family was celebrating in a resort nearby, I think I would get quite irate, and creative. Like maybe rent a digger and accidentally cut electricity and water to the place. Consequences, schmonsequences! 
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May 21, 2023 18:55
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Nenonen posted:If I learned that Lavrov's family was celebrating in a resort nearby, I think I would get quite irate, and creative. Like maybe rent a digger and accidentally cut electricity and water to the place. Consequences, schmonsequences! I was listening to the "Helluva A Way To Die" podcast and Joe Kassabian lives in Armenia and frequently goes to Georgia and he was going on about how both countries are filled with "visiting" Russians right now and the public is getting tired of them, especially Georgia, for all the reasons you could imagine. I have no loving idea why Lavrov's next of kin would visit this place when they could have just stayed in Russia.
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May 21, 2023 19:44
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Young Freud posted:I was listening to the "Helluva A Way To Die" podcast and Joe Kassabian lives in Armenia and frequently goes to Georgia and he was going on about how both countries are filled with "visiting" Russians right now and the public is getting tired of them, especially Georgia, for all the reasons you could imagine. it's honestly kinda weird that ive only had one "fuckin russians" moment on this trip (as a russian-speaking american that normally defaults to russian in post-soviet countries because english is a crapshoot) it was in tajikistan to boot, arguably one of the more russia-friendly former republics. ain't nobody wearing "Tajikistan" clothing (with the exception of the national football team, which was inexplicably staying at my hotel), but plenty of people wearing "Russia" jackets or hats (usually with the english spelling for god knows what reason) shoutout to the one kid wearing an "СССР" jacket
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May 21, 2023 20:07
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https://www.iswresearch.org/2023/04/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment_11.html?m=1  ISW should probably employ somebody from Russia or Ukraine because they got got by a loving telegram shitpost (a joke chain "petition" passed among anti-war journalists and bloggers to mock Leopards Eating Faces party)
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May 21, 2023 20:13
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interesting analyse from Girkin, not just about the capture of Bakhmut, but Russia's force strength in generel. As usual he is not positive, especially about Russia's ammunition situation, https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1660273337744982023 Interestingly this seems to be acknowledged by Russia's propagandists. https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1660349857888976897
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May 21, 2023 21:06
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Atreiden posted:Interestingly this seems to be acknowledged by Russia's propagandists. Margo should set the example, I am sure she would sacrifice her nailwork for motherland 
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May 21, 2023 21:19
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Atreiden posted:Interestingly this seems to be acknowledged by Russia's propagandists. very funny, I guess the next step is to ask Russian citizens to use their magic powers to conjure missing materials out of thin air, too
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May 21, 2023 21:19
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Libluini posted:very funny, I guess the next step is to ask Russian citizens to use their magic powers to conjure missing materials out of thin air, too Potassium nitrate for gunpowder can be produced from human waste, so get making GBS threads tovarisch!
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May 21, 2023 21:26
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poo poo, why didn't NATO countries think of asking volunteers to help at ammo factories?   Aftermath of Lapua cartridge factory explosion in 1976. 40 workers died.
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May 21, 2023 21:33
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fatherboxx posted:https://www.iswresearch.org/2023/04/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment_11.html?m=1 isw daily briefs that they put up on twitter are written up by like some intern who just puts down whatever poo poo they saw on twitter Atreiden posted:interesting analyse from Girkin, not just about the capture of Bakhmut, but Russia's force strength in generel. As usual he is not positive, especially about Russia's ammunition situation, verstka did an investigative piece a week or two back where they talked to people working in russian munition factories and common themes were 1) staffing shortages were bad enough that they couldn't actually fill a third shift 2) pay was poo poo so motivation was low 3) because of 2, they struggled to hire/retain people. 4) sometimes they weren't getting paid at all. none of the struggles are really that that surprising: it's hard and expensive to hugely scale up production of anything Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 21:56 on May 21, 2023 |
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May 21, 2023 21:50
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Herstory Begins Now posted:verstka did an investigative piece a week or two back where they talked to people working in russian munition factories and common themes were 1) staffing shortages were bad enough that they couldn't actually fill a third shift 2) pay was poo poo so motivation was low 3) because of 2, they struggled to hire/retain people. 4) sometimes they weren't getting paid at all. none of the struggles are really that that surprising: it's hard and expensive to hugely scale up production of anything Maybe they should try prisoners?
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May 21, 2023 21:57
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Nenonen posted:Maybe they should try prisoners? Oops! Didn’t they all get sent to the meat grinder already?
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May 21, 2023 22:20
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Djarum posted:Oops! Didn’t they all get sent to the meat grinder already? It would get nasty real fast. Law Enforcement would be asked to provide steady supply of able bodies. "We know you're spy, sign confession and you get to work in a work camp*, refuse and you get sent to Wagner" *good ol' GULAG
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May 21, 2023 22:36
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This question is kind of odd but why is Russia still throwing armored vehicles into random attacks across the front line? I can't really get my head around wasting stuff when you're, in theory, waiting for an offensive. Are there individual commanders feeling pressure to more or less "look busy?"
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May 21, 2023 22:52
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alex314 posted:It would get nasty real fast. Law Enforcement would be asked to provide steady supply of able bodies. Feel like sending accused foreign spies to the front lines is a bit detrimental.
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May 21, 2023 22:55
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Bashez posted:This question is kind of odd but why is Russia still throwing armored vehicles into random attacks across the front line? I can't really get my head around wasting stuff when you're, in theory, waiting for an offensive. Are there individual commanders feeling pressure to more or less "look busy?" Considering how well their various "organized" armored offensives have gone, random disorganized attacks might actually be better statistically for Russia. At least if 1 tank runs blindly into a random minefield he won't have his 4 comrades lemming train into the exact same minefield after him.
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May 21, 2023 23:13
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They have that new doctrine where tanks are backing up offensives at a low level, organizationally speaking.
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May 21, 2023 23:56
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https://therecord.media/nato-ccdcoe-ukraine-iceland-ireland-japanquote:The flags of Ukraine, the Republic of Ireland, Iceland and Japan were hoisted in Tallinn, Estonia, on Tuesday as the four nations officially joined NATO’s Cooperative Cyber Defense Center of Excellence (CCDCOE). Seems low key like a big deal.
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May 22, 2023 00:49
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Aside from the millions of reasons why I'd not want to be working in a russian ammo factory, I suppose you can add "must work alongside press-ganged untrained laborers who could easily do a whoopsie, torch the whole place, and have me die a nightmare death"
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May 22, 2023 05:58
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Bashez posted:This question is kind of odd but why is Russia still throwing armored vehicles into random attacks across the front line? I can't really get my head around wasting stuff when you're, in theory, waiting for an offensive. Are there individual commanders feeling pressure to more or less "look busy?" Perun talked a bit in one his videos that part of the Russian command system works on a bunch of variables being fed into a "calculation" that the officer then gets a stop or go on an attack. When all feedback is bullshit, the general plugs it into the calculation and gets a green light for attack. If he doesn't attack when he gets a green light he's potentially getting charged for dereliction of duty (or the Russian equivalent). So basically poo poo in results in poo poo out and you've got failed attacks backed up by failed attacks because everyone is lying.
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May 22, 2023 06:35
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Recon in force or advance until contact is unfortunately a neccessity. I would assume this is the intent of whomever is ordering such assaults, whether the Russians are doing so according to their doctrine is another question. There is also the factor that we are usually only seeing a small section of the battlefield, and that there could be other supporting elements a few hundred meters to their flanks.
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May 22, 2023 07:21
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Djarum posted:https://therecord.media/nato-ccdcoe-ukraine-iceland-ireland-japan Wasn't expecting Ireland to pop up but i guess a lot of  are stored/come and go through it these days.
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May 22, 2023 08:08
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Djarum posted:https://therecord.media/nato-ccdcoe-ukraine-iceland-ireland-japan If you know anything about Ukrainian cyberspace scene, you know it is a big deal. These are the guys who hacked the John Deere tractors, they are the ones who crack most of the games and get most of the leaks. Well, at least before the war, but Ukrainian hackers are really, really good.
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May 22, 2023 08:14
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Just Another Lurker posted:Wasn't expecting Ireland to pop up but i guess a lot of We also had the biggest ransomware attack on a health agency back in 2021, so that probably solidified opinions on the threat posed by Russian hacking.
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May 22, 2023 08:31
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Djarum posted:https://therecord.media/nato-ccdcoe-ukraine-iceland-ireland-japan Last year Hungary blocked Ukraine from joining using the excise that the Hungarian language is oppressed in Ukraine and then Orban went to Moscow and had that champagne photoshoot with Putin. This was either Feb or Jan 2022 I want to know what the hell kind of wrestling and dealmaking is going on besides the scenes
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May 22, 2023 09:29
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Some fighting at the border checkpoint in Belgorod region https://twitter.com/666_mancer/status/1660579242923401217?t=TvMqA-iyuE5i2BbWEcHSBA&s=19 https://twitter.com/ian_matveev/status/1660571119026425857?t=2ITjR8QrnjY-ARMed1sapQ&s=19 fatherboxx fucked around with this message at 10:33 on May 22, 2023 |
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May 22, 2023 10:21
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Oh poo poo we were warned that this was going to happen, the crazed Ukrs are invading Russia, which is Putin's red line and now nuclear was is about to begin. Farewell everyone 
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May 22, 2023 10:40
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Nenonen posted:Maybe they should try prisoners? Remember the french munitions full of Vietnamese solidarity notes? That except love letters from the totally pro-goverment Vory V Zakone
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May 22, 2023 12:06
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Somaen posted:Oh poo poo we were warned that this was going to happen, the crazed Ukrs are invading Russia, which is Putin's red line and now nuclear was is about to begin. Farewell everyone No, it's all Russians. Technically 'Russian Seperatists' for ultimate lols. No Ukrainians here, now move along.
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May 22, 2023 12:34
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OzyMandrill posted:No, it's all Russians. Technically 'Russian Seperatists' for ultimate lols. No Ukrainians here, now move along. Not separatists, just, uh, radical opposition.
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May 22, 2023 12:37
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OzyMandrill posted:No, it's all Russians. Technically 'Russian Seperatists' for ultimate lols. No Ukrainians here, now move along. A neat trick to dodge the escalation worries!
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May 22, 2023 12:39
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^^^^^ Hey, if they can spend 8 years pretending Russia wasn't involved in Donbass... Paladinus posted:Not separatists, just, uh, radical opposition. Yeah, whose particular flavor of "radical" is not very pleasant.
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May 22, 2023 12:49
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I'm assuming that this is do divert Russian troops from the frontlines?
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May 22, 2023 12:57
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Willo567 posted:I'm assuming that this is do divert Russian troops from the frontlines? Might also be a diversion to spoil Russia's propaganda win in Bakhmut.
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May 22, 2023 13:04
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A spokesperson for the Main Directorate of Intelligence of Ukrainain MoD had this to say:quote:The events in the Belgorod region and other territories near Russia's border are the result of Putin's full-scale invasion and aggressive war against Ukraine. Yes, the responsibility for these events was taken by Russian citizens, namely the forces of the RVC and the Freedom of Russia Legion. I think we can all only welcome the decisive actions of opposition-minded citizens of the Russian Federation who are ready to fight the criminal Putin regime with weapons.
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May 22, 2023 13:06
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Are they the same guys who went on a field trip to a Russian town some months ago?
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May 22, 2023 13:18
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Do we know how large the group crossing into Belgorod is? I saw that they had a few armored vehicles
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May 22, 2023 13:18
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Paladinus posted:A spokesperson for the Main Directorate of Intelligence of Ukrainain MoD had this to say: "conveniently they have obtained a number of russian tanks, as we understand, from a shop"
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May 22, 2023 13:22
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Willo567 posted:I'm assuming that this is do divert Russian troops from the frontlines? If they stop at doing drivebys and return, it won't divert anything, but anything to make FSB lose their poo poo is valuable short term
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May 22, 2023 13:27
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