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tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

Chewbecca posted:

Question for all: how many hours of actual work do you do as part of one full working day (or shift)?

I get in about 3.5 hours of my actual job done and the remaining 7.5 hours are on mandatory non useful bullshit.

I will admit the remaining 1.5 hours I'm loving around on the internet.

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Escape From Noise
Jul 27, 2004

Anywhere from a couple hours to like 12 depending on how well the processes go on a brew day.

Scientastic
Mar 1, 2010

TRULY scientastic.
🔬🍒


Chewbecca posted:

Question for all: how many hours of actual work do you do as part of one full working day (or shift)?

Do meetings count as work?

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

Chewbecca posted:

Question for all: how many hours of actual work do you do as part of one full working day (or shift)?

it really depends, I'm a major incident manager doing 12 hour 4 on 4 off shifts and I can go sometimes an entire block without doing anything meaningful.

However when serious poo poo is going wrong I'll be doing stuff for almost the entire 12 hour shift.

but the busy days are far far less than the days where gently caress all happens and like poster above night shifts are almost always 0 hours worked.

whats interesting is that my role is entirely financed by the customers who have bought major incident as a service, so even if I'm not actually doing anything meaningful it still costs the company nothing!

Machai
Feb 21, 2013

3+

I'm IT support, so if people don't have issues, then I don't have much to do. Today has been mostly wiping old computers/tablets to give to kids for school work, and a couple small issues that have popped up.

Konar
Dec 14, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Chewbecca posted:

Question for all: how many hours of actual work do you do as part of one full working day (or shift)?

I hate this question

ALL OF THEM, me being around and available is the actual work

If you're an employee asking yourself this, stop worrying for the above reason

If you're an employer asking yourself about others, adjust your internal metrics for what is a good worker, or just gently caress off

Thomamelas
Mar 11, 2009

Chewbecca posted:

Question for all: how many hours of actual work do you do as part of one full working day (or shift)?

It depends. If I am not teaching class that day then 0-3. If I am teaching class, then 5 or so.

tinytort
Jun 10, 2013

Super healthy, super cheap

Chewbecca posted:

Question for all: how many hours of actual work do you do as part of one full working day (or shift)?

Probably around 6.5, out of a 7 hour shift. But I work as a janitor in a hotel restaurant, so on a good day, I've got time to take a minute and hydrate and breathe. On a bad day, the only time I'm guaranteed to be able to sit is my meal break and I'm going to be rushing everything.

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

LOVE IS BEAUTIFUL
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tinytort posted:

Probably around 6.5, out of a 7 hour shift. But I work as a janitor in a hotel restaurant, so on a good day, I've got time to take a minute and hydrate and breathe. On a bad day, the only time I'm guaranteed to be able to sit is my meal break and I'm going to be rushing everything.

postmortem but between 8.5 and 12.8, clocked, at the place before the last I worked at and exactly 8 hours at the last place I worked at

except that one time I worked 16 hours on thanksgiving at the place that made me work 12.8 cuz nobody was coming in to finish the fill

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

Escape From Noise posted:

Oof. Yeah. I'm really glad I saw that coming. I'm pretty sure these guys were regularly working 18 hour days or something. There was nobody on staff with professional brewing experience and the owner was just asking the impossible from everyone.

I worked at a microbrewery for awhile after college. I was a lowly bottling line worker so I got away with 40 hour weeks plus a reasonable amount of over time, but our two master brewers were working something like 80 hour weeks as a baseline. I think at least one eventually quit and opened an Indian restaurant.

Domus
May 7, 2007

Kidney Buddies
I’m working every second of the day I’m not on break or lunch. 8.5 hour day with 30 for lunch and 25 for breaks means 7.5 hours, not counting when I answer the phone during break/lunch. It’s still not enough to do everything I need to, but we survive at least. Part of the problem is that I only work 4 days due to mental health issues, and they stopped opening up on Saturday when I used to be able to squeeze an extra four hours in. So stuff is miles behind in terms of backorders and warranty and send outs, but the daily stuff gets done most of the time. I gotta squeeze everything I can into the time I have, so I can’t really just stop and fiddle around on the internet for a while or anything.

Escape From Noise
Jul 27, 2004

The Moon Monster posted:

I worked at a microbrewery for awhile after college. I was a lowly bottling line worker so I got away with 40 hour weeks plus a reasonable amount of over time, but our two master brewers were working something like 80 hour weeks as a baseline. I think at least one eventually quit and opened an Indian restaurant.

So obviously those guys had a larger work load than those two should have. That's definitely an issue.

The funny thing with this place after I left is the owner hired nobody with professional brewing experience so it was the blind leading the blind (no offense to any of them) while the owner made insane demands. There were I think 5 people for a 2k liter brewery. Just no concept of effective scheduling.

Salami Surgeon
Jan 21, 2001

Don't close. Don't close.


Nap Ghost

Chewbecca posted:

Question for all: how many hours of actual work do you do as part of one full working day (or shift)?

0-2

My boss has made it clear that he doesn't want me to participate in any new designs and does not value my feedback at all. So I've been doing as little as I can get away with.

My current task is to create a design specification document for a new component. But instead of using that for RFI/RFQs, my boss has already selected the component from a new vendor and approved their drawing. So I'm just copying all the information from the drawing. Are we going to create a validation plan? Test the component to see if it meets our requirements? Nah. We don't even have requirements. We'll just ask the vendor for their testing. So my spec doc is going to include all the tests that the vendor performed to demonstrate that their component meets their own specifications.

This place rules.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

Chewbecca posted:

Question for all: how many hours of actual work do you do as part of one full working day (or shift)?

Usually I'll be busy at least 6-7 hours out of 8. Sometimes more, sometimes less.
Usually it's low impact desk/design work, but sometimes it gets more physical when I need to get into the clean room or sub fab space.

Tarkus
Aug 27, 2000

Chewbecca posted:

Question for all: how many hours of actual work do you do as part of one full working day (or shift)?

I work anywhere from 3 to 7 1/2 hours a day. I like to gently caress around a bit here and there and work on my own stuff or browse the forums. It should be said that the idle time comes from me just watching the machines.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

I have a 7 hour workday, so 0-7 hours. I save all my data entry work for the one day a week I'm in the office so I look like I'm busy all the time. On days I'm not in the office I typically have ~2 hours of work per day.

I also kick things into overdrive during our busy season, and do maybe 3 times as much as the other near-retirement age members of my team, so I look like a vigorous young go-getter in comparison.

McGavin fucked around with this message at 19:32 on May 23, 2023

BigHead
Jul 25, 2003
Huh?


Nap Ghost

Chewbecca posted:

Question for all: how many hours of actual work do you do as part of one full working day (or shift)?

0-3, but when poo poo (very rarely) hits the fan I'm expected to solve the problem.

Salami Surgeon posted:

0-2

My boss has made it clear that he doesn't want me to participate in any new designs and does not value my feedback at all. So I've been doing as little as I can get away with.

Ditto. I'm so vastly micromanaged that I can't do anything even if I wanted. That's by design, the big boss has a work-wide directive that everyone is maximally micromanaged. My boss is doing the work of seven people. Sometimes it sucks balls, sometimes it's great. I have made many, many suggestions to improve this place but I've just been yelled at to "stay in my lane."

Oh well easy money.

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

Dude put in a ticket because he couldn't get into Outlook. Fair. I ask if there's an error. He sends me the screenshot... It can't access and OST file... And OST file for an email domain that has been dead two years. I ask how long this has been happening.

"Oh, about two years."

Lady Jaybird
Jan 23, 2014

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022



Chewbecca posted:

Question for all: how many hours of actual work do you do as part of one full working day (or shift)?

1-2 at most

Chewbecca
Feb 13, 2005

Just chillin' : )

Scientastic posted:

Do meetings count as work?

Well, I guess that depends if you can gently caress around during them (e.g. on zoom or Teams, camera off, playing switch)

Chewbecca
Feb 13, 2005

Just chillin' : )

Konar posted:

I hate this question

ALL OF THEM, me being around and available is the actual work

If you're an employee asking yourself this, stop worrying for the above reason

If you're an employer asking yourself about others, adjust your internal metrics for what is a good worker, or just gently caress off

I am not at all worried, and this question is not intended as a criticism

Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009


Chewbecca posted:

Question for all: how many hours of actual work do you do as part of one full working day (or shift)?

On paper I need to work 8 hours per day, but I haven't been logged in the mornings for the better part of a year or so, and on the remaining 6 hours, I maybe get like 4 hours of actual-non-meeting work if there's enough, but most days i work like 2 hours tops.

Samuel L. Hacksaw
Mar 26, 2007

Never Stop Posting
I'm already at 6 items as PIP fodder for my project engineer. I'm gonna give it a week to put together a list then hand it to his manager and ask that HR be involved.

I'm sick of this shitter.

Salami Surgeon
Jan 21, 2001

Don't close. Don't close.


Nap Ghost

BigHead posted:

Ditto. I'm so vastly micromanaged that I can't do anything even if I wanted. That's by design, the big boss has a work-wide directive that everyone is maximally micromanaged. My boss is doing the work of seven people. Sometimes it sucks balls, sometimes it's great. I have made many, many suggestions to improve this place but I've just been yelled at to "stay in my lane."

Dang that sucks. I'm not micromanaged at all. I'm unmanaged.
The only thing close to micromanaging I get is my boss keeps asking "When's the spec doc going to be done? It's very important that we get it done so we can move on to the next phase of the project!" And I just answer "It's going to be a while." I actually have to get it together by Friday because that's when the first review is. My boss would know this if he didn't duck out of the project meeting early while we were scheduling the review.

Cheesus
Oct 17, 2002

Let us retract the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wirebrush of enlightenment.
Yam Slacker

Scientastic posted:

Do meetings count as work?
They count as a work obligation.

Want to load me up with 8 hours a week of meetings that I'm expected to be in? Go right ahead; you're paying for it; I'm not going to work outside of my 40 to make up the time for the tasks I can't do during meetings.

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

Ever since I started I've had about 1hr15m of mandatory meetings every morning. That's mostly listening, I contribute probably once a week. Then I average about another hour of meetings every day, half of them I run half I just listen to.

Outside of that, some weeks I have literally nothing to do. I can create some bullshit reports or write up some nonsense to look busy during the 2 days I'm in the office, and the rest of the time I just play games on my PC and watch YouTube. Some weeks I do have a decent amount of work going on but as much as possible I just squeeze that into those two days even if it means doing a longer day.

I have spoken to my boss before about this - he's perfectly happy with my contribution, I get good reviews, and the higher ups seem to like me (or at least not care). What's weird is I have equivalents on other teams and they look constantly snowed under. I have no idea why. I think I'm just lucky the people I "manage" (it's not even really management) and pretty much all competent and get on with their work without me interfering.

I've considered moving but 1) I've past two years here so they can't just get rid of me (not that that's likely), and 2) I think I'd struggle to find somewhere that'd pay me enough to justify actually doing a full 5 days a week. And hell, it beats the hell out of the stress from my last place. Maybe if I get bored in a few years.

Cheesus
Oct 17, 2002

Let us retract the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wirebrush of enlightenment.
Yam Slacker

BigHead posted:

Ditto. I'm so vastly micromanaged that I can't do anything even if I wanted. That's by design, the big boss has a work-wide directive that everyone is maximally micromanaged. My boss is doing the work of seven people. Sometimes it sucks balls, sometimes it's great. I have made many, many suggestions to improve this place but I've just been yelled at to "stay in my lane."

Oh well easy money.
For most of my career I was largely free to be self-directed to do what needed to be done . If I didn't outright just take on a new task or project, my previous managers would actually ask me if 'd take on something new that was both beneficial to the department/company and/or my own professional development. It was never a burden to me.

My current manager does not acknowledge those abilities and initiative that I have still occasionally demonstrated under him, instead preferring to overload one particular individual as a load bearing silo. When I do speak up to offer advice from an experience of years roughly double or triple anyone else in our department in our specific domain, I'm ignored. Not asked to re-explain or politely patted on the head and told I'm wrong/that's not a priority/simply "no"/etc. I'm just ignored. In email and in meetings. I exist to this manager to just be a cog.

For awhile, it infuriated me but eventually I eventually reached that state of nirvana of not giving a poo poo.

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




Some days I log in and say hello and then do basically nothing except type a quick “this is what’s happening right now everything’s ok” message every couple of hours until it’s time to log off again for a grand total of like 30 minutes work across the day, and other days I’m white knuckling it through hell for the full 8 hours or more depending on just how much poo poo hit the fan and at what speed.

Luckily my bosses know that’s how it works so if it’s quiet they don’t ride our asses at all as long as we’ve not got any urgent side-project stuff in the pipe we should be working on.

Chewbecca
Feb 13, 2005

Just chillin' : )
I have gently caress all to do a lot of the time, punctuated by periods of extreme business. However the small parts where I get to use my expertise have all of the joy sucked out of them because my manager micromanages me. I loving hate it lmao

Chewbecca
Feb 13, 2005

Just chillin' : )
It's not so bad when working remotely, but I sure don't enjoy it now they are haranguing us to return to the office full time

Dance Officer
May 4, 2017

It would be awesome if we could dance!

Chewbecca posted:

Question for all: how many hours of actual work do you do as part of one full working day (or shift)?

I work 6 hours a day and north of 5:30 of that is working with some short breaks for socialising, getting coffee, bathroom breaks, etc.

withoutclass
Nov 6, 2007

Resist the siren call of rhinocerosness

College Slice
Today I was doing an interview and during the wrap up where I was asking if they had other questions they tell me they just received a denial email from the company. Sheesh.

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS




quote:

Join us on Monday, May 22nd, at 1:00pm CT/2:00pm ET via Zoom to learn more about the background of (health company) as well as (CEO)’s tips/tricks for living a fuller, healthier lifestyle. For those unable to join, a recording will be shared afterwards. Additionally, all attendees who join with their cameras on will be entered into a $200 raffle!

quote:

An extra special congratulations to (TK69) for winning our $200 raffle!

It's an Amazon gift card.

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




Amazon has everything though so that’s not such a bad deal

Itaipava
Jun 24, 2007
Wanna hear those CEO tips and tricks please

tinytort
Jun 10, 2013

Super healthy, super cheap

MrQwerty posted:

postmortem but between 8.5 and 12.8, clocked, at the place before the last I worked at and exactly 8 hours at the last place I worked at

except that one time I worked 16 hours on thanksgiving at the place that made me work 12.8 cuz nobody was coming in to finish the fill

Yeah, the only reason it's exactly 6.5 (or 7, if it's a 7.5 hour shift) is because that time gets deducted automatically for my unpaid meal break anyway and the place automatically charges anyone who's classed as food and beverage for their meal break as soon as you clock in with no sanity check for if the shift is long enough for a meal break. So, uh, gently caress anyone who tries to make me do poo poo on my meal break barring an emergency (in which case I am going to hit a mental pause on my break and go right back to it after), they can talk to my union rep about it.

Domus posted:

I’m working every second of the day I’m not on break or lunch.

Basically the same. A really good day, I've got time to sit down and take my two paid 15 minute breaks. Most days, I'm just managing to stay on top of poo poo and handling whatever wrenches have been tossed into the gears today. (Today's wrenches: we're just about out of floor cleaning solution, and then two tables of guests decided they wanted to hang out instead of eat their lunch and stayed way, way past closing.)

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Itaipava posted:

Wanna hear those CEO tips and tricks please

1. Make a shitload of money. :homebrew:

Bored
Jul 26, 2007

Dude, ix-nay on the oice-vay.

McGavin posted:

1. Make a shitload of money. :homebrew:

2. Do the above while forcing people who actually work to take time out of their day to listen to us spout meaningless business jargon.

3. Make sure employees are browbeaten for underperforming on days where we do the above.

Takes No Damage
Nov 20, 2004

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.


Grimey Drawer

TITTIEKISSER69 posted:

It's an Amazon gift card.

Not technically my work, but the office complex we used to be in was having weekly raffles for a while last summer to try and get people to come back to work so all their tenants could justify paying them rent. It was all through their 'community app' and I had to open it up and fill out a survey every day for each entry. I actually won a few of them, mostly they were little travel packs of cheap crap but one was a 500$ credit with AirBNB that I'll probably never use.

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Mantle
May 15, 2004

At my last horrijob I was given a $50 gift card to Montana's. Gift cards are taxed as income so my next pay stub showed I paid $20 in income tax for that $50 card.

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