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Dak has let down the cowboys multiple times when it came down to him making a play; he has no "clutch" in him.
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May 23, 2023 14:35
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You saw the eagles offense with Gardner Minshew last year
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euphronius posted:You saw the eagles offense with Gardner
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https://wtop.com/washington-commanders/2023/05/goodell-confident-commanders-sale-will-gain-approval/ Sounds like the hold up is the league needing to rewrite their rules to allow it. Because the costs are skyrocketing for team sales, this is not going to be the last time someone will have to have an army of investors to raise enough capital otherwise there’s only like 10 or so billionaires able/willing to buy a team.
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May 24, 2023 12:56
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euphronius posted:You saw the eagles offense with Gardner Minshew put up 36 against Dallas; Hurts only scored 24.
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Cartoon Man posted:https://wtop.com/washington-commanders/2023/05/goodell-confident-commanders-sale-will-gain-approval/ they should probably make sure, like, none of the new owners are sex pests, but eh, you know the nfl
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BiggerBoat posted:So...every QB in the NFL then? The following things are all true: - Dak has always had enough around him to succeed. - Dak has played only one full season with both CeeDee Lamb and Amari Cooper; Dallas led the NFL in points and yards that year. - Dak has posted a top 5 offense in five of the seven seasons he's played. - Dak spent half of his career in a Garrett/Linehan offense, while also sacrificing 15 plays a game to the Zeke Elliot Contract from 2019-2022. - Dallas has had just a Pretty Good O line most seasons, some big holes for long stretches, due to injury. 2016 was the only year, IMO, that he played with a dominant line. - Dak Prescott led 14 game-winning drives in his first 3 seasons, which is the most by any QB through 3 seasons since at least 1960. (this stat just popped up on PFR and I thought it was neat).
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blarzgh posted:- Dak Prescott led 14 game-winning drives in his first 3 seasons, which is the most by any QB through 3 seasons since at least 1960. (this stat just popped up on PFR and I thought it was neat). no one is impressed by any of these cherry picked dak stats
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I'm not impressed but I'm also really loathe to think of Dak as a bad QB. I've seen him enough throughout college and the pros. The guy can absolutely ball and multiple outlets have gone over his INTs proving that most of them aren't his fault. I really don't see how he can be blamed for an inflated INT total this year when balls were pinging off of WRs hands. This is a Dallas Cowboys QB we're talking about. The media and fans are going to find every way to validate or invalidate him.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:no one is impressed by any of these cherry picked dak stats I THOUGH T IT WAS NEAT
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blarzgh posted:Minshew put up 36 against Dallas; Hurts only scored 24. I looked at the box scores and Minshew scored 6 points on a 1 yard rush. Anyway the important thing is he lost Hurts did not score any points against Dallas last year, BUT he won the game. As an aside Points scored by a QB is a strange way to judge them. For example tom Brady barely scores any points but hes the best QB of all time. euphronius fucked around with this message at 15:30 on May 24, 2023 |
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euphronius posted:I looked at the box scores and Minshew scored 6 points on a 1 yard rush. Anyway the important thing is he lost So QBs are responsible for the defense but do not get credit for throwing the ball on a TD pass?
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They do but that is not the QB "scoring" the TD. Anyway a QB in a game where his teams scores 40 pts can play worse than a QB in a game where his team scores 24 points. Looking at team scoring on its own does not tell me much. euphronius fucked around with this message at 16:13 on May 24, 2023 |
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It doesn’t matter how good Dak is, he is a loser to the core while wearing a Cowboys Uniform.
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This Tom Brady guy? He never scored.
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Diqnol posted:It doesn’t matter how good Dak is, he is a loser to the core while wearing a Cowboys Uniform. I think this is where a lot of people are coming from when they say Hurts is a better QB. Blarzgh tries his best, but you cannot use logic to talk someone out of a position when the original position is not based upon logic.
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blarzgh posted:Minshew put up 36 against Dallas; Hurts only scored 24. Minshew also almost left the Eagles without any receivers by hucking hospital balls left and right. Hurts has definitely benefited from the supporting cast, but I think that game shows how hard everyone else would have had to hustle without a good qb.
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Mr. Nice! posted:This Tom Brady guy? He never scored. 165 pts in 335 regular season games. Kickers score way more for example. Justin tucker has 1500 pts or so in 178 games. Justin Tucker is not a better QB than Tom Brady
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What the gently caress are we even talking about, god I hate the offseason. Isn’t it about time for somebody in the NFC East to get arrested by now?
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euphronius posted:Justin Tucker is not a better QB than Tom Brady but by the time preseason rolls around i would not be surprised to see this thread making the assertion
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Mr. Nice! posted:I think this is where a lot of people are coming from when they say Hurts is a better QB. Blarzgh tries his best, but you cannot use logic to talk someone out of a position when the original position is not based upon logic. football stats don't have much to do with "logic"
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Cartoon Man posted:What the gently caress are we even talking about, god I hate the offseason. Isn’t it about time for somebody in the NFC East to get arrested by now? Euphronius is trying to say that the only points a QB scores are on the ground as a way to argue that Jalen Hurts actually did better against the cowboys than Gardner Minshew even though the Minshew led offense scored more points.
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The Minshew led defense, on the other hand, gave up a lot more points to Dak than the Hurts led defense did against Cooper Rush, so another feather in the cap for Jalen!
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Mr. Nice! posted:The Minshew led defense, on the other hand, gave up a lot more points to Dak than the Hurts led defense did against Cooper Rush, so another feather in the cap for Jalen! Correct
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Both Eagles/Cowboys games featured one starting QB versus the other team's backup so this entire argument is goofy Hopefully this year we get a pure matchup and the meteor puts up the best numbers
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Black Lighter posted:Minshew also almost left the Eagles without any receivers by hucking hospital balls left and right. Hurts has definitely benefited from the supporting cast, but I think that game shows how hard everyone else would have had to hustle without a good qb. I'm not being sincere, I'm teeing up Euphronius for his 'QB WINZZZ' bit
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Mr. Nice! posted:This Tom Brady guy? He never scored. Who even is that; didn't Dak Prescott kill him last year in the playoffs
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Mr. Nice! posted:This Tom Brady guy? He never scored. Not legally anyway, since he always cheated.
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Mr. Nice! posted:I think this is where a lot of people are coming from when they say Hurts is a better QB. Blarzgh tries his best, but you cannot use logic to talk someone out of a position when the original position is not based upon logic. There is an inherent logic to Dallas being a mismanaged organization and this consigning its players to losing and thus bring losers. But obviously division rivals will troll too 
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xpost:Traxis posted:I wonder if they will work through the issues or just change names again looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool Welcome back WFT!
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Diqnol posted:There is an inherent logic to Dallas being a mismanaged organization and this consigning its players to losing and thus bring losers. But obviously division rivals will troll too Jerry Jones won executive of the year or whatever for his "excellent" GM work within the past decade I'm still laughing about it
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Diqnol posted:xpost: Oh no, how dreadful.
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The Washington Football Team will become a team of masterless men, roaming America and challenging any groups of 50 or more athletes that they find to football games.
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Quiet Feet posted:The Washington Football Team will become a team of masterless men, roaming America and challenging any groups of 50 or more athletes that they find to football games. And often losing!
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Quiet Feet posted:The Washington Football Team will become a team of masterless men, roaming America and challenging any groups of 50 or more athletes that they find to football games. The Washington Ronin
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fartknocker posted:And often losing! The Washington Generals
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Shinjobi posted:Jerry Jones won executive of the year or whatever for his "excellent" GM work within the past decade Specifically for the year where he tried to take Jonny Football, and his son physically had to tackle him and rip the card out of his hand so they could pick Zack Martin!!!
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