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Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

lmao

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Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Marianne is cool and promoting her is one of the best things Chapo did. If only she had won, we could have teamed up with Amlo to stop the gnomes

Prescott
May 16, 2023

I’m reading the Bible so I can teach the zombies about Heaven.

projecthalaxy posted:

She's like Charles Guiteau with a twitter.
Garfield was a dark horse candidate compromised on to prevent Grant returning for a third term. I’m not certain the improbability played well with Guiteau’s obvious perceptual disorders.

The Chad Jihad
Feb 24, 2007


Communist Thoughts posted:

I went to look this up and

What?

Its referring to 2017: they called a snap election that labor was supposed to get pounded in, but instead they gained a bunch of seats which cratered Theresa May's administration especially with regards to Brexit. So widely regarded as a big labor win even if they didnt get a majority. Of course they followed up by immediately self-sabotaging and have eaten poo poo since so the time to release that book was like 4+ years ago

The Chad Jihad has issued a correction as of 21:17 on May 25, 2023

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


The Chad Jihad posted:

Its referring to 2017: they called a snap election that labor was supposed to get pounded in, but instead they gained a bunch of seats which cratered Theresa May's administration especially with regards to Brexit. So widely regarded as a big labor win even if they didnt get a majority. Of course they followed up by immediately self-sabotaging and have eaten poo poo since so the time to release that book was like 4+ years ago

Yeah I was there.
It wasn't a surprise victory, it was just losing less hard than expected and it definitely didn't pan out as a victory since we got brexit under Boris instead who smashed corbyn at next the election, May was probably the best of the last 3 wait 4 PMs as insane at that sounds to me.

It says "the labour Party's unexpected victory in the UK" and it's the only success listed in the blurb which is subtitled "the complete story of the victories and failures of millennial socialism"

That ends "But all of the late nights, heated debates, and joyous camaraderie was set against the unmistakable sense that somehow, socialism was winning."

I dunno just weird to see it put that way it's sort of American left myth making

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Lmao what I remember most about the 2019 nightmare election was the Novara stream saying that some guys from chapo were there and might come on.

Iirc They'd been doorknocking during 2017 and that had been a festive atmosphere and they did the same in 2019 and basically were a gaggle of Newyork podcasters being told at every door that corbyn was a traitor or too brexit or too remain.
Loadsa good people doorknocked for corbyn and got the same afaik.

The stream crashed the moment the results came in so it was double talking with this weird echo and visual distortion as we entered the hell realm and the shell shocked hosts realised how loving badly we had got smashed (the left had deluded ourselves into hoping for an actual unexpected victory, building on 17. Instead we got owned about as hard as can be)

quote:

The the the the Results the results results are results are IN In IN you are hosed hosed hosed

Then ash sarkar makes an excuse to go get up and leave and whatshisface the fella bastani eventually confirms the chapo guys ain't coming up either

I tab over to the UK megathread stream where they are at least appropriately furious rather than struck dumb and back pedalling.

My pal comes in off night shift and the poor fucker hasn't even seen the results yet. "Did we not win?" he says then he starts screaming

The Chad Jihad
Feb 24, 2007


Communist Thoughts posted:

Yeah I was there.
It wasn't a surprise victory, it was just losing less hard than expected and it definitely didn't pan out as a victory since we got brexit under Boris instead who smashed corbyn at next the election, May was probably the best of the last 3 wait 4 PMs as insane at that sounds to me.

It says "the labour Party's unexpected victory in the UK" and it's the only success listed in the blurb which is subtitled "the complete story of the victories and failures of millennial socialism"

That ends "But all of the late nights, heated debates, and joyous camaraderie was set against the unmistakable sense that somehow, socialism was winning."

I dunno just weird to see it put that way it's sort of American left myth making

Going from losing many seats to picking up a bunch; I'd still call it a surprise victory, but then as a leftist losing less bad than usual is all I can expect. The vibe was big win all over, I don't think anyone anticipated what would follow

But in theory the book would have come out on the cusp of Bernie winning the dem primary, so the marketing blurb makes more sense in that light imo. I kinda wish it actually had come out when it was supposed too since it'd be right up there with the Liz Truss book

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Surprise upset sure, victory is when you win

KORNOLOGY
Aug 9, 2006
loving Satan, is this a joke? I got a username of wtf

Prescott
May 16, 2023

I’m reading the Bible so I can teach the zombies about Heaven.

Private Cumshoe
Feb 15, 2019

AAAAAAAGAGHAAHGGAH
What.. is... Aleppo?

edit: booed for being pro drivers license

Private Cumshoe has issued a correction as of 23:13 on May 26, 2023

limp dick calvin
Sep 1, 2006

Strepitoso. Vedete? Una meraviglia.
https://youtu.be/pcj8yJk87cs

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

Private Cumshoe posted:

What.. is... Aleppo?

People who couldn't find syria on a map two weeks earlier now with #HolocaustAleppo in their Twitter handle declaring that this gaffe invalidated him as a candidate

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

paul_soccer12 posted:

People who couldn't find syria on a map two weeks earlier now with #HolocaustAleppo in their Twitter handle declaring that this gaffe invalidated him as a candidate

Oh, now they want a government response

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
That survey that found a majority of Americans supported airstrikes against agrabah

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

When Eric Adams said he wanted to retire to the Golan Heights.

https://twitter.com/MattBinder/status/1407331420696199180?s=20

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007



every nyc mayor is a piece of poo poo but at least eric adams is funny

Prescott
May 16, 2023

I’m reading the Bible so I can teach the zombies about Heaven.
I always assumed as an adult I’d get all the New York City politician jokes on The Critic, but no… no…

Private Cumshoe
Feb 15, 2019

AAAAAAAGAGHAAHGGAH
How'm I doin'?

We want a Cuomo not a homo

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Mind_Taker posted:

every nyc mayor is a piece of poo poo but at least eric adams is funny

DiBlasio was fine...we got expanded public schools, cut public transit fares in half (means tested, but I qualify so :cool:), NYS opted in for expanded Medicaid and NYC got expanded specialist coverage. Ended stop and frisk. I think he was a liberal drowning in a neoliberal era. Also he was physically threatened by NYPD leadership multiple times over.

Adams is a pure right wing psycho who's biggest accomplishments are 1) being homeless is now a crime 2) you can now be put in a mental institution by a NYPD officer as long as you look "like you need help" 3) murdering homeless guys is legal

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

I hate Eric adams so much and he's going to run for president one day. Hell drown on the national stage but man. gently caress that guy.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

In Training posted:

I think he was a liberal drowning in a neoliberal era.

Is there any appreciable difference between them? Like I'm sure there is and I just don't know, I'm just asking what you mean here. And yes Adams is the devil and seems the worst since giulanni but at least the groundhogs are reasonably safe so long as they have addresses

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


(some) Liberals still want to help people directly while neoliberals think helping people directly is harming them and the market has to decide

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Milo and POTUS posted:

Is there any appreciable difference between them? Like I'm sure there is and I just don't know, I'm just asking what you mean here. And yes Adams is the devil and seems the worst since giulanni but at least the groundhogs are reasonably safe so long as they have addresses

neoliberal implies a certain reverence of money in of itself. Nothing is important except number which must go up.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

ikanreed posted:

That survey that found a majority of Americans supported airstrikes against agrabah

A majority still do . Because it's Disney

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
nypd kidnapped DiBlasio's daughter.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

Private Cumshoe posted:

What.. is... Aleppo?

edit: booed for being pro drivers license

what's next? needing a license for your drat TOASTER?!?!

moist turtleneck
Jul 17, 2003

Represent.



Dinosaur Gum
Trump wanted to nuke a hurricane

Prescott
May 16, 2023

I’m reading the Bible so I can teach the zombies about Heaven.

moist turtleneck posted:

Trump wanted to nuke a hurricane
To be fair, before he asked, did you think it was a “can’t” or merely a “shouldn’t”? Personally I gained a new awe and reverence for the power of nature to learn it would be implausible.

RandolphCarter
Jul 30, 2005


eventually we’re going to try to nuke a hypercane.

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

In Training posted:

Also he was physically threatened by NYPD leadership multiple times over.
one time he made them so mad they went on a "slowdown"

vox link but lol

quote:

New York City police have all but stopped writing traffic tickets. They've all but stopped issuing court summonses for minor crimes. And they've only made half as many arrests as they did last year.
it was great they should have done it forever

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Mind_Taker posted:

every nyc mayor is a piece of poo poo but at least eric adams is funny

debungler had that one photo of him checking out his wife's tits which was extremely funny

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

lmfao it wasnt even his wifes tits

https://twitter.com/jetfella/status/1408880147042816016

In Training
Jun 28, 2008


Lmfao

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

drat whatever he was replying to got deleted. But I remember even after Seattle and some west coast cities had gone on lockdown Big Bill took a selfie of him going to movies and said that capitalism was Advanced Feudalism Lol.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Milo and POTUS posted:

Is there any appreciable difference between them? Like I'm sure there is and I just don't know, I'm just asking what you mean here. And yes Adams is the devil and seems the worst since giulanni but at least the groundhogs are reasonably safe so long as they have addresses

Compare like, LBJ admin's social programs and Obamacare for a distinction. Liberalism still assumes that "individual liberties" rule and capital cannot be questioned. But there's still some systemic understanding of material conditions, public housing would get built (racistly), food subsidies provided, Civil Rights Act passed etc. Class analysis still kind of exists for liberals.

Neoliberalism abandons all pretense of social good, extends individualism to its logical conclusion, that every person is at fault for every social ill and uses that framework to extract as much value as possible from them in a purely punitive way. Means testing access to private healthcare instead of like. Using the government to build hospitals. Acknowledging that class exists and that the relationship between capital and worker is dominant would give away the game for a neoliberal, it just can't be broached.

There's probably more to it in my mind but thats what I meant when I wrote that.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Milo and POTUS posted:

Is there any appreciable difference between them? Like I'm sure there is and I just don't know, I'm just asking what you mean here. And yes Adams is the devil and seems the worst since giulanni but at least the groundhogs are reasonably safe so long as they have addresses

I was always told that neo liberalism was liberalism applied to countries

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007




lol

Ruffian Price
Sep 17, 2016

the dumbest man on television

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1025586524782559232

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Prescott
May 16, 2023

I’m reading the Bible so I can teach the zombies about Heaven.

In Training posted:

Compare like, LBJ admin's social programs and Obamacare for a distinction….

Neoliberalism abandons all pretense of social good, extends individualism to its logical conclusion...
Spending time with primary source speeches and essays as I have recently, it’s an incredibly striking evolution between thought leaders from the Kennedy-LBJ era and Clinton-Obama, when they talk about the same concepts.

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