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Average Lettuce posted:Day 13: lmao at all the hype for the Terunofuji vs Asanoyama match and in the end it all seemed so simple for Teru. Kinda weird that we will have Teru vs Kiri tomorrow, are they expecting Teru to fight Takakeisho on the last day? That was probably the most brutal kotenage I've ever seen. It wasn't particularly dangerous - Teru wasn't levering Asanoyama's ulna out of joint - but for pure kinetic strength it was incredible. Just threw him laterally by the shoulder. I hope Asanoyama's shoulder feels okay tomorrow, because his pride sure won't. Also, thank you Tamawashi for being gentle with an obviously-doing-his-best Papayasu. And cheers to Chiyoshoma and Takakeisho for a pair of lovely henka-adjacent matches. Overall a lot of good sumo on display today. Lucasar posted:Quoting myself for no reason at all. Best part was he tried it once and failed, but timed the second sotogake perfectly when Hokuseiho was paying more attention to getting an arm inside than what was going on downstairs. Really good wrestling sense by Kiri. He's obviously ready for Ozeki; I hope he handles the pressure better than Mitake and Shodai did.
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Average Lettuce posted:Day 13: lmao at all the hype for the Terunofuji vs Asanoyama match and in the end it all seemed so simple for Teru. Kinda weird that we will have Teru vs Kiri tomorrow, are they expecting Teru to fight Takakeisho on the last day? Terunofuji really seems to have Asanoyama number, 6 fights 6 wins.
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bessantj posted:Terunofuji really seems to have Asanoyama number, 6 fights 6 wins. He seems to have everyone's number, no losses do Hoshoryu and Kiribayama either.
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One of my favorite sumo facts is that Terunofuji has had two successful ozeki pushes while having only spent five bashos competing in the lower sanyaku. Every basho he ever competed in as a komusubi or a sekiwake was part of a successful ozeki run. Not only that, every one of those five bashos was either a yusho or a jun-yusho. Terunofuji is really good at sumo and it's a shame that his career has been so badly affected by injuries.
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Khizan posted:One of my favorite sumo facts is that Terunofuji has had two successful ozeki pushes while having only spent five bashos competing in the lower sanyaku. Every basho he ever competed in as a komusubi or a sekiwake was part of a successful ozeki run. Not only that, every one of those five bashos was either a yusho or a jun-yusho. Terunofuji going from Ozeki to terrible injury to returning to Ozeki was one of the most impressive things I've seen in sports. Then he added reaching Yokozuna and being dominant there when healthy to it.
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I do wish that Terunofuji relied less on Kimedashi. Its super effective but I don't like seeing how close the other rikishi always look to severe injury.
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Shiroc posted:I do wish that Terunofuji relied less on Kimedashi. Its super effective but I don't like seeing how close the other rikishi always look to severe injury. it takes a lot of shine off of him in the sense that 50% of his wins translates to 'physically massive', but i don't think i'll ever get hak's 'yokozuna sumo is winning sumo' entirely out of my head.
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bartolimu posted:Best part was he tried it once and failed, but timed the second sotogake perfectly when Hokuseiho was paying more attention to getting an arm inside than what was going on downstairs. Really good wrestling sense by Kiri. He's obviously ready for Ozeki; I hope he handles the pressure better than Mitake and Shodai did. Speaking of Mitakeumi got his first kk in a year today  Also it was fun to watch Hokuseiho's arms flail as he went over with a big splat. He and Kinbozan have a ton of potential and just need some experience/polish. Also also I think this actually happened yesterday, but Oho staved off demotion to juryo. I think he's in a good position to get a decent record this basho
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Lucasar posted:Kintamayama currently lurks about as "Mord Dresner" on youtube as well if your time is more limited. thank you i've been using rumble and i'd rather not if i can help it
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Well my concern about Asanoyama not getting a hard enough set of matchups looks good and settled. I'm rooting for Kiribayama to win out and go into Ozeki on the highest note.
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Brut posted:What's the highest rank someone's made their makuuchi debut at? Gonoyama's gonna have to be placed real high since this score of his is coming from J1e. Bright future for Goeido's student.  vs 
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double post, but so long as the current natto channel is up, check out chiyonokatsu vs kairyu - two middle-aged, mid-ranking, 3-3 makushita going at it absolute hammer and tongs for a kachkoshi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u-6_FoKdQ8&t=831s
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Day 14: Main event was worth it and then some. Keisho, please take Day 15 off. You're clearly hurt and there's nothing to be gained now that you have your kk.
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rare Magic card l00k posted:Terunofuji going from Ozeki to terrible injury to returning to Ozeki was one of the most impressive things I've seen in sports. I feel genuinely bad (well, as bad as you can for someone who ends up Yokozuna) for whoever gets the rope next. They're never going to live up to the standard Terunofuji/Hakuho set, and so history will always just sorta remember them as the next guy who was good but not great. Also agreed that this entire basho has just been really good. Cinderella stories early, getting to see some of the young talent develop (Hokuseiho in particular has been fun to see just quietly Be Big his way to victory), and seeing all the hard work the sekiwake have been putting in finally paying off has just been wonderful. Also the matchmaking gods having mercy and letting Hiradoumi get his KK finally was nice to see, I was legit worried he was going to get snuffed because they fed him to so much high-end competition. wodin fucked around with this message at 11:26 on May 27, 2023 |
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Pouring one out for Meisei who has looked absolutely heartbroken on his losing streak, respect to Tsurugisho though for trying his best to bring it in the uncharted waters of a yusho race. Great Basho so far altogether.
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Ura got loving robbed. I declare Kanly against kotonowaka.
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Apraxin posted:double post, but so long as the current natto channel is up, check out chiyonokatsu vs kairyu - two middle-aged, mid-ranking, 3-3 makushita going at it absolute hammer and tongs for a kachkoshi: Kairyu is my favourite Makushita lifer. He's been in Makushita for a decade, most of it in the top half and just will never make Juryo because despite being spirited and skillful he can just never get it over the line when it counts. Also re Day 14: Lucasar posted:I want people to start attacking Hokuseiho's legs with sotogake Quoting myself again for no reason at all.
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It's nice to see Kiribayama going into Ozeki off the back of some excellent results.
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Samuel L. Hacksaw posted:Ura got loving robbed. I declare Kanly against kotonowaka. Yeah I didn't understand this one at all... I think Hoshoryu and WMH are going to be in very good position to wind up at 33 by the end of July.
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Samuel L. Hacksaw posted:Ura got loving robbed. I declare Kanly against kotonowaka. torinaoshi would've been fair but just to reverse it is bullshit
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IIRC, the reasoning was the loser "jumped" out of the ring and was in an entirely unrecoverable position to get back inside, so they considered him a dead body. I'd have been down for a rematch though.
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Bentai posted:IIRC, the reasoning was the loser "jumped" out of the ring and was in an entirely unrecoverable position to get back inside, so they considered him a dead body. Yep, I was confused at first because it went fast but the slo-mo replay showed Ura jumping out which called for dead body judgement. I get the call.
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Kotonowaka was in an unrecoverable fall before Ura jumped though. URA GOT ROBBED
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I'm more sad that they had Teru vs. Kiribayama today instead of on day 15. I think that would have created more drama if both won today.
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We are heading into the last day and the tournament is basically sorted itself out. There are still 6 rikishi who are looking to see which side of the scale they fall on, of which 4 will be fighting head to head. I haven't been able to find anything about special prizes, though I feel that might be because they won't be contingent on wins today. Day 14 Standings: code:
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I wonder how strong Takakeisho's harite actually is. His arms look so short and his hands relatively small (lol I checked my tegata on my wall before typing this) that it doesn't seem like they'd have the same kind of power as other guys.
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Shiroc posted:I wonder how strong Takakeisho's harite actually is. His arms look so short and his hands relatively small (lol I checked my tegata on my wall before typing this) that it doesn't seem like they'd have the same kind of power as other guys. He also parries guys pretty effectively with what is effectively the same motion; I remember when he was an up-and-comer he had that signature start-and-stop oshi attack and then would just switch to a right hand slap across the space guys expected him to be in and guys would fall for it and get batted to the side. Takakeisho is a great example of how you can overachieve in sumo by understanding what your body will do better than other peoples' and just sticking to it. It always frustrates me when I see a guy using sumo that doesn't suit their physical attributes. Kagayaki springs to mind. He has basically the same approach to sumo as Mitakeumi despite having none of the physical attributes that make it work for Mitakeumi. And so he sucks.
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I'm glad to see my reasonable start to the basho has slowly faded away to mediocrity. As is my brand. And because it hasn't been mentioned, and I don't know why SHODAI
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Robviously posted:I haven't been able to find anything about special prizes, though I feel that might be because they won't be contingent on wins today. Meisei receives the shukun-sho (Outstanding performance award) Kiribayama and Wakamotoharu receives the gino-sho (technique award) No Kanto sho (fighting spirit) awarded
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Ochiai has been given a new shikona, Hakuoho. Written like 伯桜鵬 (はくおうほう).
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Top points earners by rikishi for May 2023: Terunofuji: 20 (14 wins, 5 yusho, 1 KK) Asanoyama: 16 (12 wins, 3 jun-yusho, 1 KK) Wakamotoharu: 14 (10 wins, 3 sansho, 1 KK) Meisei: 14 (8 wins, 3 sansho, 2 kinboshi, 1 KK) Hoshoryu: 12 (11 wins, 1 KK) Oho: 12 (11 wins, 1 KK) Anyone who took Meisei in their M6-M10 pick did well, same with Asanoyama or Oho in their M11-M17 pick.
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Bentai posted:Ochiai has been given a new shikona, Hakuoho. I hope he is promoted with Gonoyama. There seems to be the start of a rivalry there, at the moment it's pretty one sided with Gonyama winning all three of their matches and his playoff win was really dominant. Be interesting if they meet up again in Makuuchi next basho will Ochiai/Hakuoho be able to get a measure of revenge. Though Teru was very good against Takakeisho. Clamped him quick then ushered him into the stands like he was a confused old man who forgot where his seating was. bessantj fucked around with this message at 16:41 on May 28, 2023 |
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Bentai posted:Ochiai has been given a new shikona, Hakuoho. Well that's... something to be saddled with for sure
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Beeswax posted:Well that's... something to be saddled with for sure *edit* https://www.sanspo.com/article/20230528-SWKELPVIKNPEPHU7FPIBPUVW44/ Sanspo seems certain that Ochiai/Hakuoho might have sealed a promotion to Makuuchi. Bentai fucked around with this message at 19:14 on May 28, 2023 |
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Race to 33 for the other current sekiwake: Hoshoryu and WMH would need 12, Daiesho needs 11. Should make for an interesting July!
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Bentai posted:Ochiai has been given a new shikona, Hakuoho. Somehow, this seems much harder to pronounce than Hakuho lol
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