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Insane that those kids are college age. Wasn't I just in college like a couple years ago? What happened, how did this happen
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VelociBacon posted:Insane that those kids are college age. Wasn't I just in college like a couple years ago? What happened, how did this happen Strap in bro it only gets worse and worse
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May 28, 2023 03:41
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I went to a college that had some rooms with cathedral ceilings and there was one group of guys who set up a triple decker bunk bed. It looked terrifying.
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May 28, 2023 03:53
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:triple decker bunk bed. It looked terrifying. Well that’s just the camp I went to back in the 80s
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May 28, 2023 03:58
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Presumably your summer camp beds were actually designed and built that way though.
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May 28, 2023 04:01
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Lol no, at best they were designed and executed by previous generations of camp staff. These were beds built as a step in building the uninsulated, amenity-free wood panel cabin itself. If you’re the sort that thinks those people are qualified to engineer anything, I have one word for you: zipline
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May 28, 2023 04:05
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We bought a triple bunk off Wayfair or similar. Bottom bunk is essentially a mattress sitting two inches off the floor. It was a great space solution for having three kids close to the same age, it's like they're in a little barracks
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Bad Munki posted:Lol no, at best they were designed and executed by previous generations of camp staff. These were beds built as a step in building the uninsulated, amenity-free wood panel cabin itself. I wouldn’t even believe the zipline story if not for the photos. Like, they put the zipline on a natural slop that is too steep and it’s unusable: sure. Sinking a bunch of telephone poles into the ground and making a launch platform that overshoots the safe slope by a factor of nineteen, now that’s special.
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Platystemon posted:I wouldn’t even believe the zipline story if not for the photos. It's just an order of magnitude, Michael.
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May 28, 2023 12:52
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Somebody decided to build the cheapest Sims house possible and autogenerated the roof.
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May 28, 2023 13:25
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Beardcrumb posted:Somebody decided to build the cheapest Sims house possible and autogenerated the roof. Everyone needs a place to store their grain.
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May 28, 2023 13:28
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Beardcrumb posted:Somebody decided to build the cheapest Sims house possible and autogenerated the roof. I don’t get it. Everyone complains when the roof has a dozen different ridges and all kinds of peaks and valleys and is a huge visual mess. Now someone designs a nice clean 4 sided roof, and they still get complaints. There is just no winning. Look, it even has the same size (and number) windows on all the visible sides.
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May 28, 2023 14:03
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Beardcrumb posted:Somebody decided to build the cheapest Sims house possible and autogenerated the roof. A mathematically perfect building.
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Beardcrumb posted:Somebody decided to build the cheapest Sims house possible and autogenerated the roof. The symmetrical completist in me is deeply satisfied by this.
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May 28, 2023 16:24
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Needs a door on all sides.
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May 28, 2023 16:32
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Beardcrumb posted:Somebody decided to build the cheapest Sims house possible and autogenerated the roof. It may just be an optical illusion, but it kind of looks like the house is starting to tip over, like one corner is notably lower than the rest.
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May 28, 2023 16:37
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PurpleXVI posted:It may just be an optical illusion, but it kind of looks like the house is starting to tip over, like one corner is notably lower than the rest. The horizon has also tipped over in the same direction! 
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May 28, 2023 16:40
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Nenonen posted:The horizon has also tipped over in the same direction! Construction so crappy it tilts the flat Earth
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I have no idea if this is a good thread to ask this or not... please point me in a better direction if it's not on-topic. It's more of the "preventing crappy construction" vibe. My partner has a hanging hammock chair she wants me to hang on our porch. The ceiling of the porch is plywood with joists/studs? going through it under the plywood. I think I can find the joists/studs. I went to Home Depot and bought a Everbilt Screw Eye that's 5/16in and has a "250lb working load limit". Partner and chair together are going to be under 135lb.
Ok, my questions: 1) is this a plainly stupid idea in a way I'm not seeing? 2) what size pilot hole should I drill for a 5/16 "screw eye"? The chair should only be about a foot or 2 feet off the ground at most. We also already plan to put a pillow below it, at least for a while to break any fall  .I know enough from this thread to not saw sections out of the joists for my bathtub, but I'm unclear whether drilling into them is bad too. Oh and above the porch ceiling is roof, not another floor/room if that matters.
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namlosh posted:I went to Home Depot and bought a Everbilt Screw Eye that's 5/16in and has a "250lb working load limit". Partner and chair together are going to be under 135lb
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May 28, 2023 18:12
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Slugworth posted:Your partner and chair together are gonna be well over 135 lbs when they start moving. To be honest though, there are probably thousands of swinging benches hung with the exact same hardware all over the country, and this will probably be ok, but strictly speaking, you're well over that stated working load limit, but also that load limit has likely been under-stated. This is a really great point... it's not a "swing" like a porch swing, but it does hang and she'll obviously be swinging some back and forth and side to side. That's the point of the chair after all, lol. This was the "screw eye" I found with the largest weight rating they had in stock at my HD that I could find. any idea what size pilot hole I should drill for 5/16" wood screw?
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If your partner is swinging you could end up loading the joist in directions it isn't intended to be loaded. The plywood will help there, assuming it is fastened to the joists in a bunch of spots. Also if she likes to plop in chairs that's a big dynamic load. You can get hanging hardware sets that include a spring to mitigate that.
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I wouldn't drill one any bigger than 3/16" for the pilot. Also make sure you can find the centre of the joist/stud. I'm not an engineer, but I'd be more worried about tearing the screw out of the wood than it's tensile strength.
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Are you only mounting this on one screw or am I misreading the post?
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Shifty Pony posted:You can get hanging hardware sets that include a spring to mitigate that. I used to have a hanging chair that used something very much like this. The chair had been suspended from a simple ceiling eyebolt, which worked great. Then I moved, and I re-screwed that eyebolt into the ceiling at the new place. I wasn't 100% certain that it would hold, and so for the first test sit, I piled the couch pillows underneath it. Sure enough, the bolt popped right out after only a few seconds (I figured out later I hadn't gotten it quite centered on the ceiling joist) and the pillows worked great and saved me from bumping my butt. However, remember the spring? (In this case, the chair was attached to the spring, which in turn was attached to the chain to the ceiling.) When I sat down, that spring was placed under almost 200 pounds of tension, and when the eyebolt popped out of the ceiling, that stretched spring suddenly found itself floating weightless with nothing pulling on its ends. And so at this point some simple physics happened rather quickly, and before I had even hit the ground, the chain and eyebolt had been propelled downward with astonishing force directly into my upturned face. And that's the origin story of my chipped tooth.
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Shifty Pony posted:If your partner is swinging you could end up loading the joist in directions it isn't intended to be loaded. The plywood will help there, assuming it is fastened to the joists in a bunch of spots. I'm going to use some rope... which should provide some bounciness. the rope is rated for an ungodly amount and it's as thick as my thumb. wesleywillis posted:I wouldn't drill one any bigger than 3/16" for the pilot. yeah, I'm worried about that too... normally I'd just drill whatever pilot hole felt right, but I wanted to get this right since it's a single point of failure. PurpleXVI posted:Are you only mounting this on one screw or am I misreading the post? That is correct, one screw. If you guys say its an absolutely stupid idea, then I'll reconsider... but that was the plan. Powered Descent posted:I used to have a hanging chair that used something very much like this. The chair had been suspended from a simple ceiling eyebolt, which worked great. Then I moved, and I re-screwed that eyebolt into the ceiling at the new place. I wasn't 100% certain that it would hold, and so for the first test sit, I piled the couch pillows underneath it. Sure enough, the bolt popped right out after only a few seconds (I figured out later I hadn't gotten it quite centered on the ceiling joist) and the pillows worked great and saved me from bumping my butt. oh dang... sorry that happened... We're both prepared for this to not work, but want to mitigate injury as much as possible obviously. I had considered getting chain and a clevis(?) to go through the screw eye, but I have this rope that should work a treat and not cause the issue above if/when it comes down. So my plan is not the dumbest idea, but also not the smartest... I think I can live with that. if anyone has any other recommends I'd appreciate it, and thanks so much for the responses.
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This related video was just posted in the schadenfreude thread https://va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_rvdnrfvkQe1uk10e9.mp4
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Shifty Pony posted:If your partner is swinging I thought that it's only called that when you both are involved?
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namlosh posted:I'm going to use some rope... which should provide some bounciness. the rope is rated for an ungodly amount and it's as thick as my thumb. The pitfalls I'd be concerned about are screwing into a knot or split in the joist/stud, landing the fastener close to the edge of the stud, or the screw randomly pulling out. For the size fastener you need and the load it will create, I personally wouldn't be comfortable screwing that into a 2 inch wide stud. But I'm a nervous nelly so ymmv. If it were me and this was my chosen solution, I'd make sure I was screwing into the center of a 4 x 4, and I'd drill a small pilot hole with a guide block to make sure it was square to the face. I'd also want some way of knowing that the wood is in sound condition.
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One important detail that got overlooked, do you own the place? If it's a rental, absolutely do not drill any joyces whatsoever without consulting your landlord.
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namlosh posted:I'm going to use some rope... which should provide some bounciness. the rope is rated for an ungodly amount and it's as thick as my thumb. For what it's worth, we have a two story screened in porch with slotted board flooring for the second floor. I put in (what I think is what you're talking about) a rope/seat/swingy thing on the first floor by looping the nylon webbed strap up one side the joist, over the upper flooring board, and then down the other side of the joist to create a loop. I'm fairly certain that will hold well, but my only concern is potential traffic running over the strap on the second floor. But actually, it's just me and my wife that use it, so I'll just have to inspect it to make sure it isn't getting worn by foot traffic. BlankIsBeautiful fucked around with this message at 21:48 on May 28, 2023 |
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Fastening it in multiple places would add some stability and also spread the load some. I'd always do that if it was an option.
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Nitrox posted:If it's a rental, absolutely do not drill any joyces whatsoever without consulting your landlord.
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Powered Descent posted:I used to have a hanging chair that used something very much like this. The chair had been suspended from a simple ceiling eyebolt, which worked great. Then I moved, and I re-screwed that eyebolt into the ceiling at the new place. I wasn't 100% certain that it would hold, and so for the first test sit, I piled the couch pillows underneath it. Sure enough, the bolt popped right out after only a few seconds (I figured out later I hadn't gotten it quite centered on the ceiling joist) and the pillows worked great and saved me from bumping my butt. Username/post combo
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Beardcrumb posted:Somebody decided to build the cheapest Sims house possible and autogenerated the roof. drat, big trussy
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Jenkl posted:A mathematically perfect building. Only if the base of it is a triangle. (could well be from this angle!)
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Beardcrumb posted:Somebody decided to build the cheapest Sims house possible and autogenerated the roof. 
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Is this one of those fake substation houses?
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Captain Toasted posted:Is this one of those fake substation houses? A home for the blind.
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