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holefoods
Jan 10, 2022

poo poo mine didn’t have that in it, gotta be on the lookout for another now

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Wayne Knight
May 11, 2006

steckles posted:

Incomparably blessed. I've got my copy of Independence Day on the mantle next to wedding photos, family portraits, photos of favored decease cats, etc.


The included patriotic lenticular hologram is also a great conversation starter.


Hell yeah! We have the VHS with that hologram card too!

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

steckles posted:

Incomparably blessed. I've got my copy of Independence Day on the mantle next to wedding photos, family portraits, photos of favored decease cats, etc.


I appreciate that the largest frame at the central focal point goes to a depiction of Nothing. :hai:

steckles
Jan 14, 2006

Powered Descent posted:

I appreciate that the largest frame at the central focal point goes to a depiction of Nothing. :hai:

It’s an antique mirror that I was assured was haunted when we bought it.

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


lobsterminator posted:

One annoying trend is that many new releases are double vinyls, because they apparently have a better sound quality, but that just means more swapping when listening. I can deal with one side swap during an album, but three starts to get annoying.

If the album is longer than about 45 minutes, this is absolutely necessary or else it will sound like poo poo.

holefoods
Jan 10, 2022

yeah whatever release I have of the first wu-tang album is crammed onto one LP and the lead out tracks on each side are horribly staticy. that being said I think some bands really go overboard with the two LP thing and it’s definitely not always needed

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


The worst I've seen was a Lee Scratch Perry album that was on two discs because they were 12" 45s :psyduck:

Aix
Jul 6, 2006
$10
theres a bunch of albums spread across multiple discs where some sides are 33rpm and some are 45 cause of weird runtime. i remember listening to some ambient thing on the wrong speed without noticing, some blixa bargeld solo or sth? it also had great runout groove loops so it took a while to notice you had to switch

HKR
Jan 13, 2006

there is no universe where duke nukem would not be a trans ally



Woolie Wool posted:

The worst I've seen was a Lee Scratch Perry album that was on two discs because they were 12" 45s :psyduck:

since 45 rpm discs have wider groove spacing, an argument is made that a 12in 45rpm record can have greater dynamic range or loudness, which benefits certain types of recordings more than others.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


By popular demand posted:

Oooh and a nifty coin slot between the vents there!

I found a 20cent coin in a DVD Drive I was opening up the other day.

Nidhg00670000
Mar 26, 2010

We're in the pipe, five by five.
Grimey Drawer

Horace posted:



The surround with the pen holder is part of the radio. I don't know why they included it, the pen flies out the first time you go round a corner. (not my picture, my car is never so dusty)

106. 💗

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



My dad had vinyls growing up and I never really cared for them, but after he passed away and we started going through his actual collection for either hard-to-find albums (Phantom of the Paradise!), older albums we actually liked (Thriller, Beatles), or just the downright weird poo poo (The West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band), we ended up keeping maybe 1/20th of my parents records. I started getting into it, and have discovered the world of VG vinyl music.

I'll admit, there is SOMETHING missing when listening to albums on CD or streaming, I don't know if it's the faint hiss and occasional pop on an older album, or having actual knobs to be able to fine tune the bass and treble, but there is an appeal to vinyl outside of just having nice, large sleeves to display. Plus modern albums feel durable enough that I don't feel like I might break them just taking them out of the sleeve, old albums were cheap AF in that regard.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Randalor posted:

Plus modern albums feel durable enough that I don't feel like I might break them just taking them out of the sleeve, old albums were cheap AF in that regard.

I have albums that are 40+ years old that are pretty sturdy. It's not like they are those shellac 78s that break if you look at them hard enough.

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost
I only listen to IMAX releases on the original 70mm print. Anything else just doesn't have the same warmth.

Of course, my entire house had to be renovated to store the system and platters, which are 550 pounds apiece. But you can't put a price on fidelity.

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



Mister Kingdom posted:

I have albums that are 40+ years old that are pretty sturdy. It's not like they are those shellac 78s that break if you look at them hard enough.

I should have clarified that I meant in comparison to new albums, the old ones feel flimsy. There's a noticeable difference in thickness and weight between a mass-produced LP from the... gently caress, 60's-to-80's to modern ones made for a niche audience.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Kamrat posted:

I enjoy vinyl, makes listening to music a little more fun.

CDs are fine as well but nowadays I just rip them and put them back on the shelf instead of playing them on the CD-player.

I stopped buying CDs because the Loudness War made them sound like poo poo and if I'm going to listen to a format with limited dynamic range I'll just stick with vinyl because it doesn't blast your ears with everything being cranked to the highest levels. Alternately in my car I was fine with MP3s because the CDs were going to sound like rear end anyway so why not go for convenience.

Did they ever stop doing that? I figured it would only happen once Butch Vig dies, but I suppose I could have been wrong.

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


I'm so glad I hopped on the Mp3 train the moment I first heard Suzanne Vega.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!
If you aren't listening to music on wax cylinders can you even call yourself a REAL audiophile?

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.

Nocheez posted:

I only listen to IMAX releases on the original 70mm print. Anything else just doesn't have the same warmth.

Of course, my entire house had to be renovated to store the system and platters, which are 550 pounds apiece. But you can't put a price on fidelity.

Is this you???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b2IOOhJmxw

Kamrat
Nov 27, 2012

Thanks for playing Alone in the dark 2.

Now please fuck off

Phanatic posted:

I stopped buying CDs because the Loudness War made them sound like poo poo and if I'm going to listen to a format with limited dynamic range I'll just stick with vinyl because it doesn't blast your ears with everything being cranked to the highest levels. Alternately in my car I was fine with MP3s because the CDs were going to sound like rear end anyway so why not go for convenience.

Did they ever stop doing that? I figured it would only happen once Butch Vig dies, but I suppose I could have been wrong.

I don't really listen to mainstream music and I buy most of my CDs directly from bands or from small labels. I haven't noticed any issues with the dynamic range on most of these.

According to Wikipedia the loudness war was over in the 2010s but I haven't been paying much attention to it personally: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
And now I'll die knowing I'll never get to hear what that system sounds like.

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.
I've watched that video like 2-3 times and I cannot tell what is actually good for the audio and what is audiophile bullshit.

Horace
Apr 17, 2007

Gone Skiin'


🎵 and it feeeeeels like I'm seventeen again

LimaBiker
Dec 9, 2020




HKR posted:

since 45 rpm discs have wider groove spacing, an argument is made that a 12in 45rpm record can have greater dynamic range or loudness, which benefits certain types of recordings more than others.

This exactly. Dub on 12" 45rpm sounds PHAT. You can literally see the squiggles in the groove. It's the reason why many dance/club/whatever records are also often recorded at 45rpm. If you really crank up the volume in a loud club, it's very nice to have that extra signal level on your record. Sound pressure levels can easily reach 100dB, and if the signal to noise ratio of a common record is only like 45dB, that does mean you have a shitton of noise in the quiet bits. Not that EDM has many quiet bits, but you get the point.

At home it's not really needed, but the couple records i do have that run on 45rpm do sound somewhat better than the 33rpm records.

By far the worst of the quirky records is Radiohead's Amnesiac pressing. That's 2 10" 33rpm records. It sounds pretty drat good, but is also recorded extremely loud - to such a degree that literally only audiophile grade record players can properly reproduce the final track without inner groove distortion. I have good consumer level stuff (Pioneer PL-12d with audio technica AT95e) but even that setup has a hard time playing the last track without sounding harsh.

It looks cool, but they should've just pressed it on 12" and left the inner grooves empty. I reckon that 12" isn't even more expensive despite the extra vinyl needed, because of the extra setup needed to do 10" records, sleeves etc.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Desert Bus posted:

I've watched that video like 2-3 times and I cannot tell what is actually good for the audio and what is audiophile bullshit.
Considering this actually toured, I think the speaker columns are at least legit.



The separate electical supply just for the room is amazing. I think that CALtech can repurpose the design of that phonograph to aid in earthquake detection, though. The 3 styluses are definitely overkill.


The end of that hit me like a ton of bricks, though. :(

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.

FilthyImp posted:

Considering this actually toured, I think the speaker columns are at least legit.



The separate electical supply just for the room is amazing. I think that CALtech can repurpose the design of that phonograph to aid in earthquake detection, though. The 3 styluses are definitely overkill.


The end of that hit me like a ton of bricks, though. :(

It makes me sad and/or makes me laugh that the Wall of Sound led to fake amp/speaker stacks.

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C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

GreenNight posted:

Now that's just fuckin weird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jjEMLhPn9M

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
https://twitter.com/wapplehouse/status/1663305221408272387?s=20

Dr_Strangelove
Dec 16, 2003

Mein Fuhrer! THEY WON!


Quality username/post combo

Also I saw this in Burn After Reading

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Dr_Strangelove posted:

Quality username/post combo

Also I saw this in Burn After Reading

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bmyGI6qQwc&t=17s

namlosh
Feb 11, 2014

I name this haircut "The Sad Rhino".

I give up, is it how they pick a new pope?

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
That's how they tell if the pope has balls.

Stexils
Jun 5, 2008

the first crankshaft

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

namlosh posted:

I give up, is it how they pick a new pope?
Does the pope poo poo in the woods? No. Not anymore he don't.

Hellequin
Feb 26, 2008

You Scream! You open your TORN, ROTTED, DECOMPOSED MOUTH AND SCREAM!

The very first boxed copy of a computer game I ever got was the 1988 Atari-ST port of this game, despite it being like six years old at that point. The box was awesome because it had one of those little sound chips on it hooked up to a tiny speaker and you could press a button for one of three horribly bit-crushed digitized voice clips (iirc "look at the size of that thing", "use the force Luke" and "nice shot kid that was one in a million"). The second boxed copy of a game I ever got was X-Wing like the next year.

Kamrat posted:

I enjoy vinyl, makes listening to music a little more fun.

CDs are fine as well but nowadays I just rip them and put them back on the shelf instead of playing them on the CD-player.

This is my take on it as well. I listen to most of my music digitally these days, and whenever I buy a CD (usually because it's some rare thing I can't find otherwise) it just gets ripped and then placed on a shelf. At least with my vinyl collection, I pull those records out all the time and put them on the turntable. Vinyl CAN sound really good but it's also more of a hassle; most people don't have time to properly set up their system, or don't clean their records, or have never replaced their stylus or calibrated the cartridge. I've got a few records that sound better in that format than others, mostly like half-mastered 45rpm LPs, 12" singles and stuff though. A lot of albums these days aren't specifically engineered/mastered for vinyl either, and there are even some loudness war casualties among the re-releases. I've got a 2013 pressing of Bowie's "Heroes" that is notably louder and worse sounding than a repressing I've got from the mid-80s, despite the former being pressed on 180gram vinyl and the latter being on the lovely thin vinyl they used after the oil crisis.

Digital is probably the best way to listen to music, that said, I will never use a streaming platform, I don't care how convenient it is, I want control of my files also I can guarantee that I've got stuff that Spotify doesn't. gently caress streaming.

Hellequin has a new favorite as of 17:45 on May 31, 2023

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


Hellequin posted:

Digital is probably the best way to listen to music, that said, I will never use a streaming platform, I don't care how convenient it is, I want control of my files also I can guarantee that I've got stuff that Spotify doesn't. gently caress streaming.

This is where I am. I have all my music on a flash drive (now that cars don't really support iPods anymore) and no streaming service can keep me happy for longer than about an hour or so. Spotify offers up something like 20 songs to me and then stops.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Count me in on Team Flash Drive Driving Music. It works great... even though the geniuses who programmed the car stereo have it read the mp3s in any given folder in filesystem order, not alphabetical/numeric order. So just drag-and-dropping a folder of music onto the drive effectively pushes the "scramble" button on it. I ended up writing a little python script to place the files onto the drive one at a time, to ensure they'll come out in the right order.

And now that I'm thinking of it, I suppose flash drives themselves are now obsolete for a lot of purposes. It's been a long time since I've used one for anything else except car music, or very occasionally a fresh OS install. I don't even use them for bringing a video file to the big TV anymore, now that I've made myself a local Plex server. But for storing stuff, or moving things between machines, there are better options available now. It's kind of a pity, since they're a really neat bit of technology, and ever since USB 3.0 came around, their speed can even be downright acceptable.

Hellequin
Feb 26, 2008

You Scream! You open your TORN, ROTTED, DECOMPOSED MOUTH AND SCREAM!

Explosionface posted:

This is where I am. I have all my music on a flash drive (now that cars don't really support iPods anymore) and no streaming service can keep me happy for longer than about an hour or so. Spotify offers up something like 20 songs to me and then stops.

There's been one exception to my "no music streaming" rule and that's NAXOS music library, which is an absolutely fantastic service if you're a classical music head and want to compare recordings/find obscure releases and which I also get for free through university alumnus library access. It doesn't really have much of an algorithmic aspect either, which is honestly the part of Spotify that rubs me wrong. The Baffler has run some really great essays on that aspect, how it's changing listening habits away from critical listening practices, and towards same-y pablum.

https://thebaffler.com/salvos/the-problem-with-muzak-pelly
https://thebaffler.com/downstream/big-mood-machine-pelly
https://thebaffler.com/latest/discover-weakly-pelly
https://thebaffler.com/latest/streamlining-the-streaming-regime-backer
https://thebaffler.com/downstream/streambait-pop-pelly

The Quietus also had some really great essays on the topic but I can't seem to find them.

So whatever, I guess I'll just continue to be one those weirdo holdovers who carries around a dedicated DAP loaded with a nearly full 1TB microSD and pirates things.

Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?
I'm still using the iPod I got in like 2004. I've just changed the battery like 4 times and put in a 128gb flash card at some point to replace the 20gb HDD

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Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


Powered Descent posted:

Count me in on Team Flash Drive Driving Music. It works great... even though the geniuses who programmed the car stereo have it read the mp3s in any given folder in filesystem order, not alphabetical/numeric order. So just drag-and-dropping a folder of music onto the drive effectively pushes the "scramble" button on it. I ended up writing a little python script to place the files onto the drive one at a time, to ensure they'll come out in the right order.

I'm a bit annoyed that I had to convert all of my playlists to use Microsoft style file structures just so they could be read. It makes sense, since Microsoft wrote the Sync software in my Ford.

What I absolutely hate is how some cars won't even work with the whole flash drive. My wife's Toyota will only recognize about 5000 files instead of the 6000+ I actually have on the drive.

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