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Neeksy posted:Katzenberg used to have some decent instincts, such as being the guy to shield Who Framed Roger Rabbit from executive interference. What would have happened to Roger Rabbit if the execs got their way? 
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Electric Phantasm posted:What would have happened to Roger Rabbit if the execs got their way? He'd have been censored.
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May 1, 2023 21:40
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The biggest thing Katzenberg definitively got wrong was the Black Cauldron, but he was new to animation and the movie had been stewing in development hell, so it was never going to turn out very well.Electric Phantasm posted:What would have happened to Roger Rabbit if the execs got their way? Maybe scaled back a lot since it was going way over budget. I feel like I'm not much of a fan of Roger Rabbit. I know why it was important and led to a number of other things that I like, but it relies really heavily on cargo-culting classical theatrical shorts without necessarily understanding what it's doing, which bugs me a lot when I revisit the things that followed in its wake.
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SlothfulCobra posted:The biggest thing Katzenberg definitively got wrong was the Black Cauldron, but he was new to animation and the movie had been stewing in development hell, so it was never going to turn out very well. The Black Cauldron certainly wasn't helped either by Eisenberg literally busting in the editing room with a pair of scissors and cutting who chunks of otherwise locked footage out of the film because he personally didn't think they were needed.
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May 1, 2023 22:11
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SlothfulCobra posted:Maybe scaled back a lot since it was going way over budget. I get the impression if not for Kaztenberg we may not have had other animation characters besides Disney.
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May 1, 2023 23:22
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At the time, Disney corp was actually thinking about abandoning animation altogether and go all-in on the parks. Roy Disney was extremely against this move away from animation/film; and it was Katzenberg who ran interference to let the movie get made how it needed to be made. If Roger Rabbit flopped, it would have been bye-bye Disney animation.
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May 2, 2023 00:00
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And that would have been a long slow death of the parks running out of things that make them any different from Six Flags. Disney's history seems to be a lot of trying to stop tight-fisted executives from strangling the golden goose.
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May 2, 2023 02:18
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Ghost Leviathan posted:And that would have been a long slow death of the parks running out of things that make them any different from Six Flags. Disney's history seems to be a lot of trying to stop tight-fisted executives from strangling the golden goose. Disney as a company is basically one large fight between the creatives and the money people
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May 2, 2023 13:36
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Disney's history seems to be a lot of trying to stop tight-fisted executives from strangling the golden goose. Also the concurrent focus on SatAM shows, and the creation of The Disney Afternoon, really helped its cultural cachet and draw with kids. But yeah, Eisner was sharpening his axe and going after animation. Had the whole dept moved to a warehouse in Glendale. Then Mermaid happened and they were the talk of the town.
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just wanted to chime in to once again remind people that Jellystone rules. some of the changes they made compared to the originals were a little weird, but overall the show is great and way better than i expected it to be
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May 13, 2023 05:24
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My sister who is a cna had particular love for the Yogi and friends doctor episodes because as insane as there were, she felt like someone writing them had actual experience. "We are triage Boo Boo, time to pick winners and losers"
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https://twitter.com/blameitonjorge/status/1657897618180313088?s=20
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May 15, 2023 02:20
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Watching the new Muppets Mayhem show and not gonna lie, I was feeling that Desiigner Rockin’ Robin remix.
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May 15, 2023 04:45
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I got around to watching Transformers: Earthspark. It's good stuff! It's very much children's cartoon but tries to present things in emotionally mature and healthy ways. Like, one of the healthiest families on TV has giant robot children. Also, many decepticons are portrayed sympathetically and the conflict is less about good robots vs bad robots and more about robots vs human discrimination. Great action, too, probably the best animated action scenes in transformers cartoon history. https://va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_rlds8b1Thy1vfymiy_720.mp4 There was the backlash about one character being nonbinary which naturally means the show is "too woke" for some. Seems to be a vocal minority, the show has been otherwise well received.
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YO I enjoyed it quite a bit too, can't wait for more. I'm actually going back and watching Prime for the first time in order to get my fix-definitely more serious and plot-focused, but it's still a good time.
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Junpei posted:YO I enjoyed it quite a bit too, can't wait for more. I'm actually going back and watching Prime for the first time in order to get my fix-definitely more serious and plot-focused, but it's still a good time. Yeah, Prime's a lot of fun. I got to meet Sumalee Montano who played Arcee and she was very nice. It was also good Arcee was my favorite character in an iteration of the franchise because I never thought that would happen.
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May 17, 2023 23:28
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I found TF Prime extremely dull. It has all the signifiers of good tv but nearly none of the substance.
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Twibbit posted:My sister who is a cna had particular love for the Yogi and friends doctor episodes because as insane as there were, she felt like someone writing them had actual experience. was watching the first episode again and boo boo handing an old lady a $10k medical bill for removing Augie Doggie's annoying daughter still gives me a good chuckle so, are animated shows effected by the writer's strike too? or does the WGA not cover that area?
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May 18, 2023 05:13
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Some are affected, and others not. A lot of animation stuff is considered a separate union. Family Guy/American Dad, for example, are shut down with McFarlane supporting the strike.
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May 18, 2023 05:17
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I saw that Ben Schwartz (Randy Cunningham, 9th Grade Ninja, Dewey from the Ducktales reboot, Leonardo in Rise of the TMNT, movie Sonic) supported it too as well
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May 18, 2023 05:24
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Is Schwartz also a producer? I just assumed he was VO only.
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Misread, I don't think he's striking, he's just supportive of it
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May 18, 2023 05:38
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It's not a big miss, SAG-AFTRA is about to vote on a strike after 37 years.
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Today marks the 10-year anniversary of the original online release of the Steven Universe, Clarence, and OK KO pilots (plus a few others that didn't become shows) Over the Garden Wall's pilot was also produced in said batch but was screened at film festivals instead
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Neeksy posted:It's not a big miss, SAG-AFTRA is about to vote on a strike after 37 years. We can probably thank that amazingly well-timed ad 'starring' a deepfake of Ryan Reynolds as the breaking point.
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Dawgstar posted:We can probably thank that amazingly well-timed ad 'starring' a deepfake of Ryan Reynolds as the breaking point. That ad is 100% gonna be a talking point at SAG's negotiation.
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May 22, 2023 00:02
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Anyone else remember Codename: Kids Next Door? Man, that was a good show.
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The gremlins cartoon is on max.
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Also apparently Danny Phantom is coming back in graphic novel form this July: https://nickelodeon.fandom.com/wiki/Danny_Phantom:_A_Glitch_in_Time
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Larryb posted:Also apparently Danny Phantom is coming back in graphic novel form this July: Butch isn't writing it? seems like a missed opportunity.
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Phat Phingers posted:Butch isn't writing it? seems like a missed opportunity.
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Neeksy posted:…how much do you know about Butch? In my case, nothing (I only just watched DP for the first time fairly recently). Is he a John K level rear end in a top hat or something?
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About that level, yeah.
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He's a typical conservative Christian rear end in a top hat, has been involved in multiple questionable grifts, and makes hilariously bad twitter commissions. https://twitter.com/realhartman/status/1004459941074231297 He's also neither the main writer nor character designer for Danny Phantom IIRC so literally the best aspects of the show weren't from him.
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First of all, where the gently caress is Steven's jacket? Secondly, why the hell does he have what looks like an Infinity Gauntlet? Also just the tone of the image is totally off.
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May 30, 2023 21:45
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That's Stephen Universe after he has transformed into the Incredible Sulk
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mycot posted:He's a typical conservative Christian rear end in a top hat, has been involved in multiple questionable grifts, and makes hilariously bad twitter commissions. Good to know, is any of the show staff involved with the upcoming comic then?
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mycot posted:He's a typical conservative Christian rear end in a top hat, has been involved in multiple questionable grifts, and makes hilariously bad twitter commissions. Didn't it come out he traced a lot of his commissions, too? Like just took somebody's art and gave them Butch Hartman faces?
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https://www.insider.com/butch-hartman-accused-plagiarizing-commission-art-mikasa-drawing-trace-ackerman-2021-2 yeah, he ripped of some Fan Art for his $200 dollar commissions. I mean, I don't know if I'd put him in John K level. As far as I know, he never lured 16 year olds to live in his house, be his girlfriend and work on his shows. He's just a scammy prick, who mostly takes credit for of Steven Silver's character design work.
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