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OctaMurk posted:biden isnt european hes american It’s not weird, it’s sexual harassment and he should have been arrested for doing it.
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snorch posted:When I was young living in Europe everyone was naked and it was nbd, it's the weirdos sexualizing nudity that's the problem.
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Killer robot posted:That's not at all incompatible. I don't mean "serial rapist" in the terms of someone who stalks strangers: someone attacking a number of girlfriends/dates/coworkers/etc, people he already knew, is what it had suggested. Repeat offenders who keep going until they're stopped because that's how they treat the women in their lives. Yes, thanks for the clarification. I was operating under an incorrect definition of serial rapist. Do you know if there's any good epidemiological data on perpetration? Because obviously, the data that we get from the UCR is only going to be those convicted. On the other hand it's also not something that you're liable to self report. I imagine we just don't have a lot of good data on it.
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OctaMurk posted:biden isnt european hes american I had to learn something, now you have to learn it too: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nude_swimming_classes_in_the_United_States Apparently for people of Biden's generation this would have been extremely common. FlapYoJacks posted:It’s not weird, it’s sexual harassment and he should have been arrested for doing it. This is like, a joke, right? This isn't even remotely enough information to classify this as sexual harassment. Yawgmoft fucked around with this message at 01:57 on May 31, 2023 |
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May 31, 2023 01:55
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Yawgmoft posted:I had to learn something, now you have to learn it too:
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World Famous W posted:I've posted in nothing but good faith and think calling those posts rape apologia is fair I don't have problems with you World Famous W. It's the rear end in a top hat showing up and going "You're a threat to women in your lives! *cutesy emote*" and Fister trying to apply a reductive claim to something vastly larger than that that have made me give up on discussing this. As i've said, the claims against Biden should not be tossed out on account of her past behavior. But the pattern of cynically exploiting the trust of others, lying in a way that undermines her claim, and the vast majority of character related stuff like literally claiming to be the victim of domestic abuse to get custody of her kid and then perjuring herself so thoroughly in cases involving domestic abuse as a witness that the prosecution even admitted she was an issue, and now this --- claiming she has proof of a conspiracy by Biden and fleeing into the arms of a fascist power after spending decades running fairly organized lies against a vast multitude of people for her own profit that lead to harm and in several cases even the destruction of other people's lives and freedom is not going to help her case and makes her look like another grifter. You're free to disagree with this if you want. I have no problem with that. But i'm telling you, that that's what it looks like for someone who is familiar with gaslighting abusers who know how to prey on other people like that. It is not rape apologia to point out that someone has consistently shown they have no bottom when it comes to a lack of honesty, and has actively hosed over other people to the point of possibly ruining their lives with seemingly no remorse whatsoever. It is pointing out that people should withhold judgement on the situation until more is known given the tremendous amount of damage that she has done to other people's lives, sometimes literally contributing to ruining them with prison time even though she herself claims to have been the victim of the same horrible thing. Or to put it as someone else did: Cugel the Clever posted:It's not "lied about one thing" so much as an unambiguous and sustained pattern of manipulation and deceit that had now been capped off by fleeing to the arms of a fascist foreign power. Archonex fucked around with this message at 02:03 on May 31, 2023 |
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Yawgmoft posted:I had to learn something, now you have to learn it too: And calling African Americans racist words was OK when he was growing up. Does that give him a free pass to yell racist epithets around African Americans?
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FlapYoJacks posted:It’s not weird, it’s sexual harassment and he should have been arrested for doing it. This is indistinguishable from the logic conservatives use about gay pride events and drag shows. Perhaps you should do something about that.
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Archonex posted:Sure thing! That probe was closed without any findings, and the other allegations here are at least contested https://theintercept.com/2021/03/14/new-york-times-tara-reade/
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FlapYoJacks posted:And calling African Americans racist words was OK when he was growing up. Does that give him a free pass to yell racist epithets around African Americans? The human body is like a racism car
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DeeplyConcerned posted:Yes, thanks for the clarification. I was operating under an incorrect definition of serial rapist. Do you know if there's any good epidemiological data on perpetration? Because obviously, the data that we get from the UCR is only going to be those convicted. On the other hand it's also not something that you're liable to self report. I imagine we just don't have a lot of good data on it. It's a hard thing to get good data about for sure. A quick check turned out one study that focused on college students, but pretty sure I've seen it on other groups too. https://jimhopper.com/topics/sexual-assault-and-the-brain/repeat-rape-by-college-men/
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Yawgmoft posted:The human body is like a racism car This is disingenuous and you know so. Something being socially acceptable in the past does not give you an excuse to do it in the present if it’s no longer socially acceptable.
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Yawgmoft posted:The human body is like a racism car
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FlapYoJacks posted:This is disingenuous and you know so. Something being socially acceptable in the past does not give you an excuse to do it in the present if it’s no longer socially acceptable. Something offending your personal sensibilities or not being "socially acceptable" does mean it is morally wrong or should be forbidden.
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GlyphGryph posted:Something offending your personal sensibilities or not being "socially acceptable" does mean it is morally wrong or should be forbidden. Wow it sounds like these secret service agents should just leave if he's making them uncomfortable Hey what was all that fuss about Louis CK, just normal human body stuff
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GlyphGryph posted:Something offending your personal sensibilities or not being "socially acceptable" does mean it is morally wrong or should be forbidden. Show me where it’s socially acceptable in the United States to purposefully swim nude in front of your female subordinates.
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Real blast from the past vibes going on here. Insane Tara Reade arguments, posts from uninterrupted like from back before he copped a double ban from here and cspam, now all we need is some reregs dropping in
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Let's go ahead and say that the full variety of opinions on Joe Biden's swimming preferences have been expressed and move on, please.
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GlyphGryph posted:Something offending your personal sensibilities or not being "socially acceptable" does mean it is morally wrong or should be forbidden. Is it a valuable use of your time to defend a man who has, on camera, touched and kissed women and children without their consent? Baronash posted:Let's go ahead and say that the full variety of opinions on Joe Biden's swimming preferences have been expressed and move on, please. Drafted and posted before seeing this.
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snorch posted:When I was young living in Europe everyone was naked and it was nbd, it's the weirdos sexualizing nudity that's the problem. It doesn't work that way here, where men exposing their genitals to women is used as a power-and-intimidation tactic, or in this instance. It has nothing to do with "shame" and everything to do with the hostile subjugation of women entrusted with the life & safety of the guy harassing them.
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Baronash posted:Let's go ahead and say that the full variety of opinions on Joe Biden's swimming preferences have been expressed and move on, please.
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Regardless of what you think of her past claims, I can't help but little amused by the idea that Tara Reade is on the run from homicidal federal agents determined to silence her, but somehow also so tied into deep state intelligence networks and high-level Democratic politics that she already knows the details of Biden's plans to steal the '24 election. What is she, Jack Ryan or something?
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Yawgmoft posted:Yeah sorry but if he always swam naked and the secret service has a rule like "we can't look away while you swim" well that sucks but I wouldn't change my habits either. Sorry that the vice president loses his private life but seems like a fair trade.
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Man, I've been offline all day, but there's a sparkle in the air like an antagonistic power with a weaponized media army co-opted a contentious yet vulnerable figure for a throwaway media clip just to drum up confusion and the misplaced hatred/infighting that naturally ensues at no cost to said antagonistic power. Oh well might as well use my sit-down time to start catching up on the ol' USCE thread to make sure that's not the ca- *balls explode, turlet shrapnel penetrates two walls and the fridge*
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Willa Rogers posted:It doesn't work that way here, where men exposing their genitals to women is used as a power-and-intimidation tactic, or in this instance. I thought a liberal viewpoint was that conservatives in America are too uptight about “sex” but wholly don’t have a problem with violence (as depicted in film/media for instance) so what the hell is the problem with being more “European” in this regard? Joe must have some Hunter-Dick going on if you think he’s “intimidating” his female subordinates with his dangly old man parts. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Majin posted:I thought a liberal viewpoint was that conservatives in America are too uptight about “sex” but wholly don’t have a problem with violence (as depicted in film/media for instance) so what the hell is the problem with being more “European” in this regard? so - just to be clear here - your take is that getting naked in front of your female subordinates is okay as long as you're an old guy with a little dick (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Killer robot posted:It's a hard thing to get good data about for sure. A quick check turned out one study that focused on college students, but pretty sure I've seen it on other groups too. Very cool thanks. This is what I was looking for. It cites this one, which seems pretty solid: Swartout KM, Koss MP, White JW, Thompson MP, Abbey A, Bellis AL. Trajectory Analysis of the Campus Serial Rapist Assumption. JAMA Pediatr. 2015 Dec;169(12):1148-54. doi: 10.1001/jamapediatrics.2015.0707. Erratum in: JAMA Pediatr. 2015 Dec;169(12):1179. PMID: 26168230.
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Baronash posted:Let's go ahead and say that the full variety of opinions on Joe Biden's swimming preferences have been expressed and move on, please. Is this a warning about discussing the Reade story at all, or just about the nude swimming thing?
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Fister Roboto posted:Is this a warning about discussing the Reade story at all, or just about the nude swimming thing? Just the swimming thing, which I think it is fair to say wasn't headed in anything approaching an interesting direction.
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Cool thanks for the clarification.Cugel the Clever posted:It's not "lied about one thing" so much as an unambiguous and sustained pattern of manipulation and deceit that had now been capped off by fleeing to the arms of a fascist foreign power. It doesn't matter how many other unrelated things she's lied about, or what she's done since then. She could have never told a single truth in her life and it wouldn't matter. She could have a picture of Putin on her nightstand and it wouldn't matter. You don't have to like her. You don't have to believe her about anything else. You don't have to agree with her decision to move to Russia. But you have to understand that absolutely none of it is conclusive evidence that her allegations are false. Like I said, this is exactly what rape defendants do. They dig into the victim's past, try to find anything that can paint them as untrustworthy. Sometimes they even dig up things that are true, and guess what? It doesn't loving matter.
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Fister Roboto posted:Cool thanks for the clarification. You are factually correct that if she's "never told a single truth in her life" it doesn't conclusively prove that she's wrong. Your saying that "it doesn't loving matter" is a matter of opinion, and I'll suspect it's far from universal. If someone has in fact never told a single truth in their life, I am going to be inclined to disbelieve their allegations until I get a chance to hear the other side and am given at least some level of evidence or third-party corroboration. Especially if they're openly aligning themselves with groups that are known to spread lies for ulterior political motives.
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The Washington Post has a well-researched and written article on the right wing christian home schooling movement, framed by the narrative of some of the families that grew up in it and are now breaking out of its clutches. The revolt of the Christian home-schoolers quote:They said goodbye to Aimee outside her elementary school, watching nervously as she joined the other children streaming into a low brick building framed by the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains. Christina and Aaron Beall stood among many families resuming an emotional but familiar routine: the first day of full-time, in-person classes since public schools closed at the beginning of the pandemic. The authors are seeking stories from people who have had experience with the home school movement, if anyone is able to contribute.
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Tatsuta Age posted:very cool of you to slam in here and immediately kinda prove kronix's point I already was posting in here and I don't believe it proves Kronix's point. People have been complaining that "believe women" was out of control since almost the very beginning of #metoo. It's a very very common way to shut down people who believe women. And like I said, there's no perfect victim and I'd rather err on the side of the victim especially when the dude has been caught touching people inappropriately so many times.
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Discendo Vox posted:The authors are seeking stories from people who have had experience with the home school movement, if anyone is able to contribute. There was one person around here who would probably have a lot to say about it but I'm pretty sure she doesn't post here anymore.
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