cat botherer posted:

Yeah I was one of the weird kids at my shithole rural middle school when Columbine happened. I got interrogated a few times (multiple hours each time) by the principal and assistant principle trying to get me to admit to whatever plot me and the other weird kids were definitely cooking up. Just traumatizing a bunch of 12-13 year olds, threatening with jail and everything, trying to get us to name names or admit to a nonexistent plot. The Columbine duo weren't even in the "trenchcoat mafia." They weren't the weird kids, they were the bullies who tormented the weird kids. Not that the media wasn't happy to pump up fear.

SulfurMonoxideCute posted:

Her speech at graduation was all about how people are like geese, we have to flock together to stay strong and all outcast geese end up suffering and dying.

Bruceski posted:

One of my friends liked to wear a long coat in a similar style, after Columbine he went to the teachers and made sure that'd still be okay. Probably headed off any pushback, though it's hard to note things that didn't happen.

When I graduated my friends and I skipped the traditional Senior Lock-In, opting to do a LAN party instead. The kids at the school trashed the place, and we were told graduation would not proceed until everyone cleaned it up. The principal thanked us for helping even though she knew we hadn't been there. Lady, you were holding our diplomas hostage. At least acknowledge we didn't exactly have a choice.

BOOTY-ADE posted:

Reminds me of the end of my junior year, a bunch of super popular seniors were graduating & most years had a tendency to have a massive food fight in the cafeteria. Staff told us repeatedly that if it happened that year, they'd ban off-campus lunch altogether for everyone. In typical fashion, a food fight broke out, poo poo got broken, a few kids got hurt...but despite having like 5-6 security guards & multiple cameras, the instigator wasn't caught. Found out shortly after they graduated it was a couple of the football jocks & the school staff were lazy assholes who had proof the whole time but refused to rat them out. Tells you all you need to know really.

FMguru posted:

The things school teaches you about the world and how it works outside the classroom are often more important that what it teaches you inside.

the holy poopacy posted:

My embezzlement scheme is so transparent a snot nosed kid is calling me out on it, how should I cover my tracks? I know, I'll compel them to shake my hand on stage, that'll fix it.

the holy poopacy posted:

My embezzlement scheme is so transparent a snot nosed kid is calling me out on it, how should I cover my tracks? I know, I'll compel them to shake my hand on stage, that'll fix it.

MrQwerty posted:

I refused to shake my principal's hand as I walked because he put me in detention constantly the last half year because I was openly accusing him of embezzling from the school (1st gen charter school). They turned my rear end around and made me shake his hand.

Eventually the FBI raided the school and he got sent to federal prison for embezzling federal money lol

StrangersInTheNight posted:

oh poo poo is there a news article or anything? i'd love to read about how this guy went down. i get it if you don't wanna share bc its too personal tho

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I really don’t think I’m wrong, but I just need reassurance that I’m doing the right thing.

I (F 50s) have a son (David, 30s) who is married to Bea, 20’s. They have a daughter who is 4 months old, and my son has a daughter from a previous relationship who is 10.

Bea & I had a falling out after their baby was born, and my son and granddaughters got caught in the crossfire. The falling out happened in March, and I know I did and said things I wasn’t proud of, and although she hasn’t apologized I’m sure she feels the same way. It would be too long to go over the history, but at the most extreme point I did consult a lawyer for grandparent rights. During this time, my son had no contact with me, but when I dropped the grandparents rights case I asked for things to go back to normal. My son expressed that he wanted things to go back to normal, but that a lot of damage had been done and he really didn’t know if we could go back to normal.

For Mother's Day, my daughter decided to take me out to dinner, and she begged David to go and bring the baby (oldest was with mom). David eventually did agree on the condition it wasn’t on mothers day, and He, the baby, and Bea came. Bea was quiet most of dinner, but did talk to my daughter a few times – I guess they have a pretty good relationship. Bea held the baby the entire time, and wouldn’t let me hold or take pictures (part of the falling out was over pictures and Facebook, so I found this to be petty).

Overall, I would have called dinner a success. At the end I hugged my son and told him I was proud of him for putting his foot down and coming to dinner with his daughter, and that I hoped he could continue to do that. Looking back, I know I shouldn’t have said anything. My son called me later that night and told me that he couldn’t continue to have a relationship with me. He said that Bea was their child's mother, and he wouldn’t ever bring the baby anywhere without her blessing. I was drunk when he called because I have had a hard time coping, and I admit I lost it a little bit on the phone call and told him it was despicable that he couldn’t man up to his wife, and that he should have come to see me on mothers day because I am his mother. He ended up hanging up on me.

I called the next day and profusely apologized to him. I know it was wrong of me to have said what I did, and I told him I want a relationship with him. He told me he couldn’t do this with me anymore.

I have been heartbroken ever since, but I understand I guess. I called him last night and told him that I wouldn’t be contacting him or his wife anymore ever, and that I respected that we wouldn’t have a relationship. I also let him know I would be taking him off as my power of attorney and out of my will so he never had to be bothered with anything from me again. I don’t have much anyways.

He got mad at me and called me a sorry excuse of a mother, and now my daughter is saying I’m manipulative. I really don’t understand how I was wrong in giving him what he wants."

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I have been in therapy to help deal with this trauma. I've been told that I need to respect his boundaries so this feels like I am. Why would i want someone who doesn't care about me making medical decisions for me? He's also expressed I'm a hoarder and I don't have money so I don't know why he would want to be bothered with stuff in a will.

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No, I said I wanted to kill myself because I felt like I had no one. While I was on a hold for 72 hours and received treatment I got set up with my therapist to help deal with some of the trauma both from what's happening now and past issues.

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I had a psychotic break. This is one of the actions I truly regret.

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AITA woukdnt let me post an update due my post being "violent" so here we are.

after someone posted a link to what i believe is my daughter-in-laws reddit posts and i read some of the verbal beatings i got i did some more reflection. i feel like her perspective of events really helped shift my view. i do want to point out there are several people who told me i was not wrong and that this younger generation has a poor view of family values. i really believe i was judged so harshly because there are so few parents\grandparents on reddit.

i went to my son and dils house but it was mostly empty. i was afraid of this after reading her post and some of the comments. i found the listing and its been posted for almost a week and is currently pending but i cant find where they moved to and all the photos are of the house mostly empty. i suspect they bought it under an llc so i am currently trying to figure out how to find out the name of the llc and then find the house. i talked to one of their neighbors and they said they moved most of their stuff out around the beginning of may so my son kept this from me for quite a while and didnt even bother to mention it at dinner.

i had a meeting with my therapist to help me through this but im still a wreck. my son has just disappeared. i know everyone here is looking through my small 3000 character limited posts and my dils long gripes about me but my son woukdnt do this on his own. his wife is absolutely manipulative but it doesnt change the fact i handled this all wrong and drove him further away. if i woukd have just sought out a relationship with my son ang granddaughters without b i dont think i woukd be here. i should have just played nice. one commentor said it when they asked me “do you want to be right or do you want to have a relationship with your son and granddaughter?” and i choose wrong.

my therapist told me to give myself some healing time before pursuing anything but for now my plan is to just save some money and hire a private investigator to find my son and then rebuild my relationship and his trust so we can work to get him out from under her.

again i recognize i was wrong in some of this. i recognize i was overly demanding and critical – i was wrong in some of this. but i didnt deserve this. people who use kids and grandkids as pawns are evil.

i will probably continue to seek advice but it certainly wont be from this account. and to whoever linked my other posts from my other account and told my dil about this screw you.

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screw everyone here. i am far from being a devil. i am not evil. the person who is evil is the one who took my family completely away from me. my dil has completely manipulated my son. ill admit i was far from perfect but i dont deserve what you people are saying about me. i hope one day you guys feel what it's like to lose your child and grandchild to a manipulative person who just wants to cut their family off.

Midnight Voyager posted:

Oh. Oh god.

Hey uh... jesus this is long.

My (F50) Daughter in law (24F) gave birth and doesn't seem to want a relationship with me

Remember this story where the mother in law was SO AGGRIEVED that her son and DIL didn't visit her after DIL spent three loving days in labor? She did everything from question the doctor's diagnosis to pitching a fit that she didn't get a phone call during recovery. Remember how it got updates where her trying to find legal advice for grandparent's rights? And then a friend of hers informed the DIL about it so they could take preemptive measures?

https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/13wsuoi/shes_back_my_f50_daughter_in_law_24f_gave_birth/

There's. More. This is a NOVEL of text, so I'm only gonna post what I don't think was posted here.

******NEW Post: May 22, 2023 (2.5 months from OG Post. New Username)*****

AITA for removing my son from my will after our relationship ended?

People figure out it's the same woman because she has a pretty distinctive typo style.





Update Post to AITA: May 24, 2023

comment from OOP when her post was crossposted to r/AmITheDevil

FMguru posted:

LOL. My therapist told me to respect their boundaries and let some time pass, so I'm hiring a private eye to track down the LLC that they bought their most recent house under so they avoid my bizarre stalking and harassment, that will show them.

Clocks posted:

AITA for disposing my pads in my boyfriend’s bathroom?

Thread got locked, presumably for the amount of people they had to ban for calling him a manchild.

Cowslips Warren posted:

For that mil,. Do we know what exactly started it? Because we know for a fact she was totally the innocent party and her evil daughter-in-law Harpy of a shrew woman is the one who was at fault.

When Bea was in labor at the hospital posted:

I called him while she was in labor a few times, but on the second day after her water broke I called him and heard her snap at him to get off the phone and he refused to accept any calls after that.

After kid is born posted:

She was in the hospital 2 days after the c section, and they wouldn't stop to visit me on their way home after the birth because she was hurting, even though she had pain killers she could have taken and she "didn't feel right" according to my son.

A days after returning home with the kid posted:

I was supposed to visit a couple days after they got home, but she ended up insisting something was wrong and went back to the doctor who apparently sent her to the hospital. My son told me they diagnosed her with post partum preeclampsia, but I was pretty certain that that was only something that happened during pregnancy and went away after birth so I was pretty sure he was confused. The day after they admitted her again, 5 days after the baby being born with everyone meeting her but me, was my birthday. I called her around 8 that morning to see what was really going on but she didn't answer.

Bea calls back later that day posted:

I told her she should have called me and that I wanted to hear her voice and hear from her what was going on since my son gets confused. I then asked her if this was a mental or physical issue, and she went silent before saying physical. I asked of she was sure,

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I (16M) have been scared of my dad for a long time. He's a great dad, I love him, but every so often he shows a totally different side. When he's stressed he'll tell at you for ages for doing anything, even if you aren't the one making him stressed. Me, my mum and my sibling have all experienced this many times throughout our lives.

We've had a cat for years now. My dad's the only one who doesn't like her, because he doesn't find her cute and she causes trouble. Since we got her, most of my dad's outbursts have been directed at her because she's usually done something wrong. It's nice because I feel safe from my dad's anger, but he's started saying his mental health is bad because of the cat, despite this being a problem long before we got her.

Recently he called a family meeting and started saying that we had to get rid of the cat because it was too stressful for him. My mum argued for the cat, and I didn't have to say a word, but I was really stressed out by the argument and started crying (I tried not to but failed). It didn't help that my dad kept describing things that apparently he'd done because of the cat (crying, hiding in his room, etc.) which were all things I'd done because of him. All the pressure got to me and I just burst, saying everything I said above. My dad left the room wordlessly right after and I heard him and my mum arguing for an hour or two through the door afterwards.

The next day my dad stopped me to talk, we were alone this time. He opened with "you hurt my feelings" and then said that he thought I was just interpreting his stern voice as yelling and misremembered those times he yelled at me. He also said that I needed to be yelled at those times (e.g: there was a while where I was being bullied, and stopped talking and got really low self-esteem. I opened up to my dad about this and he yelled at me for "being too negative". He said seeing me in a bad place really stressed him out, and that he needed to snap me out of it.)

I got mad and argued with him again because it felt like he was still not listening and blaming others for his problems, but now I'm not sure if I really was overreacting. AITA?

Kurieg posted:

AITA for yelling at my dad?

I had to yell at you because you being bullied reflects poorly on me and that's your fault.

Kurieg posted:

AITA for yelling at my dad?

I had to yell at you because you being bullied reflects poorly on me and that's your fault.

hawowanlawow posted:

assholes are all so similar to each other

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I(25m) became friends with Noah (25m) sophomore year of high school. We became pretty much inseparable and did everything together. After high school we both graduated to the same college where we became roommates.

Noah met Cleo(24f) at a party our junior year and they started dating. They got engaged last July and had a huge wedding on Saturday with around 200 guests. The ceremony and venue was beautiful and I couldn’t be happier for them. The reception was great and I had a lot of fun drinking, talking to friends and seeing my buddy happy. After a while it was time to give speeches and Noah’s dad gave a beautiful speech. Everyone got teary and I could see how happy Noah was. I was kinda tipsy and thought that I should go next so I went up after him and took the microphone.

For some background info; Cleo is a black woman (will be important later) who grew up in the rough part of our area with a single mom. Noah comes from a family with money and has always dated women in the same social class. Cleo is insanely beautiful and there’s no doubt that Noah loves her. In the beginning of their relationship I used to tease him about dating a gold digger and when we’d first seen Cleo at the party Noah kept staring at her and I (thinking she was one of the strippers hired for the party) told him and some other friends that we should get a lap dance from her. It was all just jokes and Noah never seemed to take offense to it.

Back to the wedding, my speech started off good and everyone was smiling and laughing. This is the part where I might have ruined the friendship: I made a joke about how we’d thought she was a stripper when we first met her. I also made a stupid comment about how Noah used to only date girls money but I won’t go into detail about that. I got some awkward laughs but it was mostly quiet. I tried saving it with another terrible joke and finished my speech with “This toast is to getting out of the hood and into a rich guy’s pants. People laughed and I thought I had saved it.

Noah later pulled me aside saying I embarrassed Cleo and made it seem like he was marrying some cheap hooker. He also called me a racist for my comment about getting out of the hood and saying he only used to date girls with money and class(which he took as me saying white women) I’ve been friends with Noah for 10 years and I don’t wanna throw away our friendship over a stupid comment I made when drunk. I want to text him and explain myself but my gf told me to give them space? Should I go to Noah’s place? I feel like it will be better if we talk face to face.

Foo Diddley posted:

I(25m) might have destroyed my friendship with my friend (25m) over a stupid comment at his wedding.

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I was kinda tipsy and thought that I should go next so I went up after him and took the microphone.

Pope Corky the IX posted:

I know you haven’t been in the thread for very long but please don’t do this.

WaywardWoodwose posted:

Would it be ok to say something like " I feel like if you're a single woman with two kids who only makes $30k a year then you also don't get to be choosy about whether you want to get married. " ?
Because i just heard essentially that in a thread that loves to chant "death to landlords" when a guy didn't want to pay seventy percent of his girlfriends mortgage, and no one said a peep.

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I am one of three siblings: 29F, 27F (me), and 22M.

This all started about five years ago, when my older sister came to me and told me she was looking into our genealogy and wanted me to do one of those novelty genetics tests. I wasn't enthusiastic about it, but she was weirdly insistent, so I gave her the samples she asked for and moved on, not really giving it much more thought. At no point did I have a digital login for any results. I also never thought to mention this to my parents.

A few months after this, Sister moved six hours away for another job and was noncommunicative. She would call Dad every once in a while, but Brother and I found that if we didn't call/text her first, we wouldn't hear from her, and she basically cut Mom off outright. When questioned about this, she would refuse to acknowledge that's what she was doing. Ultimately, we all just accepted it. Mom was totally baffled and broken hearted, and the rest of us naturally became less close with Sister as a result. Even she and Dad only talk a few times a year now, and none of us have seen her in person in five years.

Earlier this year, Brother did 23AndMe and got weird results that led to hard conversations. Mom and Dad came clean that the three of us were donor conceived, a choice they made because Dad is infertile. They apologized for not telling us earlier, but Dad felt strongly about not telling us because he never wanted us to think of him as any less our dad.

Dad called Sister and told her this too after we talked, and she basically had a breakdown on the phone. It turns out that she knew Dad wasn't her bio father, and firmly believed for five years that Mom had cheated on Dad and had been nursing intense resentments as a result.

Apparently she did a genetics test five years ago and was puzzled that the ancestry info didn't match with what we knew about Dad's family. That's when she came to me to get a sample. She sent it to a lab with hers, and they confirmed the results were genetic half-siblings, with the same mother and different fathers. She drew her own conclusions from there (that dad was my bio-father and not hers, and that Mom had had an affair) and uprooted her life to get a fresh start.

She's now furious about the situation and feels like she's been robbed of the last five years. When we last talked, I was maybe less sympathetic than I should have been and told her cutting us off with no explanation was an insane move, and if she'd told us even a fraction of what was going on, it could have been cleared up years ago. I acknowledged Mom and Dad messed up here by not being truthful about our genetic identities (which I'm also struggling with my own feelings on), but in the end, it was her decision to do this dramatic move and slow fade with zero explanation. I also expressed how hurt Brother and I had been to be left out of her life, and that it wasn't fair to punish us for what she thought had happened. AITA?

Arc Light posted:

WaywardWoodwose posted:

Would it be ok to say something like " I feel like if you're a single woman with two kids who only makes $30k a year then you also don't get to be choosy about whether you want to get married. " ?
Because i just heard essentially that in a thread that loves to chant "death to landlords" when a guy didn't want to pay seventy percent of his girlfriends mortgage, and no one said a peep.

Pope Corky the IX posted:

I was talking about "Hey, what if we flipped the genders in this story?" not the rest of it.