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some bust on that guy posted:So when are we ever getting a Nier Part 3? How can there be no word of one in the past 6 years? It was successful... unfortunately it was called SinoAlice
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Larryb posted:I seem to recall 3 being better than the other two in terms of gameplay at least but it’s been a while since I’ve touched it I watched an LP and it honestly did look more fun to play than I expected it to be, but it also didn't try to have as many enemies on screen as 1 did, if memory serves. It was more like a devil may cry kind of typical action game than a musou game, wasn't it? Let Caim roast thousands of soldiers with the power of a PS5 imo
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May 19, 2023 22:08
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Larryb posted:I seem to recall 3 being better than the other two in terms of gameplay at least but it’s been a while since I’ve touched it The bar was extremely not very high. Its still janky as gently caress to play but kinda fun.
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Ainsley McTree posted:I watched an LP and it honestly did look more fun to play than I expected it to be, but it also didn't try to have as many enemies on screen as 1 did, if memory serves. It was more like a devil may cry kind of typical action game than a musou game, wasn't it? From what I remember the combat in 3 is kind of Nier esque (though not quite as smooth) though there are still flying segments like the previous two games
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some bust on that guy posted:So when are we ever getting a Nier Part 3? How can there be no word of one in the past 6 years? It was successful... Taro discovered gatcha games. But beyond SINoALICE, there was also Nier Re[in]carnation back in 2021 which was a mobile RPG and was incredibly Taro in its story. Then you have the side projects he's worked on in conjunction with the anime like the "music video" for Antimony. And that Voice of Cards series of games. His next project is 404 GAME RESET which is a bullet hell mobile game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InMXgbuuvUw AlternateNu fucked around with this message at 03:35 on May 20, 2023 |
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May 20, 2023 03:33
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I wonder if a Drakengard remake could even work today, what with the incredibly edgy content in there like pedophilia, cannibalism, getting to slaughter child soldiers with a madman who can't stop smiling about it etc.
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Archer666 posted:I wonder if a Drakengard remake could even work today, what with the incredibly edgy content in there like pedophilia, cannibalism, getting to slaughter child soldiers with a madman who can't stop smiling about it etc. Yeah that's fair, I do forget sometimes how Hot Topic that game got. I guess a remaster could be an opportunity to take a second pass at the tone, too what i'm saying is, if YT isn't willing to direct, i'm in
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May 20, 2023 03:37
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YT would direct it given enough cash. Nobody has put up the funds yet.
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Archer666 posted:I wonder if a Drakengard remake could even work today, what with the incredibly edgy content in there like pedophilia, cannibalism, getting to slaughter child soldiers with a madman who can't stop smiling about it etc. I mean, in Nier Replicant theres a LOT of child murder, and there’s probably worse things you can have in a game than “pedophile who is ashamed of his desires”
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May 20, 2023 04:43
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Replicant has it obscured by making the children monsters though. In Drakengard they are just straight up normal rear end human children.Larryb posted:I seem to recall 3 being better than the other two in terms of gameplay at least but it’s been a while since I’ve touched it At this point I think I'd prefer a big game from Yoko Taro that had nothing to do with Drakengard or Nier, just because that gives them way more freedom. I don't want him to die in the gacha mines, and I also don't want him constrained to just these sorta games.
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Momomo posted:At this point I think I'd prefer a big game from Yoko Taro that had nothing to do with Drakengard or Nier, just because that gives them way more freedom. I don't want him to die in the gacha mines, and I also don't want him constrained to just these sorta games. No matter what he does now people will expect a twist linking it back to Drakengard/Nier and will be disappointed if there isn't one. Even after playing the demo people expected Voice of the Cards to be a secret Taroverse game.
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stev posted:No matter what he does now people will expect a twist linking it back to Drakengard/Nier and will be disappointed if there isn't one. Even after playing the demo people expected Voice of the Cards to be a secret Taroverse game. Apparently it sort of is, I never finished them but I've been told one of the games has a straight up Grimoire
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I mean Mortal combat is basically snuff porn in how realistic it’s getting and not very many people care
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That’s because excessive violence between adults has always been fine, if mortal kombat had you ripping the spines out of babies people would probably be at least a little bit less ok with it.
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stev posted:No matter what he does now people will expect a twist linking it back to Drakengard/Nier and will be disappointed if there isn't one. Even after playing the demo people expected Voice of the Cards to be a secret Taroverse game. Admittedly I completely forgot about Voice of Cards. I didn't bother with that one since it seemed like the cards were an aesthetic choice for a fairly standard jrpg, rather than having an effect on the game.
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Momomo posted:Admittedly I completely forgot about Voice of Cards. I didn't bother with that one since it seemed like the cards were an aesthetic choice for a fairly standard jrpg, rather than having an effect on the game. I only played the first one but yeah there was no real reason for them to be cards, it felt like a budget thing. Which hey, fair enough i guess I did appreciate that it included tactile dice rolling, i'm a sucker for that.
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May 20, 2023 16:44
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I would like another big game from YT, but it doesn't have to be Nier. I'd like him to just be able to experiment and play with whatever ideas he has, and hopefully won't be pressured by companies to do the same things he's done successfully again. And I'm sure he has plenty of ideas. He once pitched an idea for "Gun Soccer."
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean Mortal combat is basically snuff porn in how realistic it’s getting and not very many people care It’s consensual in Mortal Kombat.
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May 21, 2023 22:26
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They don’t seem to be terribly happy about it
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They knew what they were signing up for
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Momomo posted:At this point I think I'd prefer a big game from Yoko Taro that had nothing to do with Drakengard or Nier, just because that gives them way more freedom. I don't want him to die in the gacha mines, and I also don't want him constrained to just these sorta games. I want Square-Enix to put him in charge of the next mainline Kingdom Hearts game.  Ainsley McTree posted:I only played the first one but yeah there was no real reason for them to be cards, it felt like a budget thing. Which hey, fair enough i guess To me, it seemed kind of an extension of the boardgame gameplay of Unlimited Saga.
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Agents are GO! posted:I want Square-Enix to put him in charge of the next mainline Kingdom Hearts game. I don't think the world is ready for that but I would love to see it all the same.
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I did everything and sacrificed my save data. Fun game, I loved the way it used the interface for storytelling. I wasn’t really expecting All To Be Revealed but while the ending was tremendously cathartic and full of vibes, I don’t think it made any sense. Which is fine but just to be sure I’m not missing something there was no grand plan behind YorHa, right? The goal was just to forever war against the machines, then get all the androids killed, then delete the data, then ??? Both androids and machines are trapped in an endless cycle without meaning, and the machines want to escape it by going to space in their big cannon Again this isn’t really important to my enjoyment of the game, I’m just curious.
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General Battuta posted:I did everything and sacrificed my save data. Fun game, I loved the way it used the interface for storytelling. I wasn’t really expecting All To Be Revealed but while the ending was tremendously cathartic and full of vibes, I don’t think it made any sense. Which is fine but just to be sure I’m not missing something there was no grand plan behind YorHa, right? The goal was just to forever war against the machines, then get all the androids killed, then delete the data, then ??? Both androids and machines are trapped in an endless cycle without meaning, and the machines want to escape it by going to space in their big cannon
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General Battuta posted:I did everything and sacrificed my save data. Fun game, I loved the way it used the interface for storytelling. I wasn’t really expecting All To Be Revealed but while the ending was tremendously cathartic and full of vibes, I don’t think it made any sense. Which is fine but just to be sure I’m not missing something there was no grand plan behind YorHa, right? The goal was just to forever war against the machines, then get all the androids killed, then delete the data, then ??? Both androids and machines are trapped in an endless cycle without meaning, and the machines want to escape it by going to space in their big cannon IIRC the androids really wanted to win the war (even if the ones who made YorHa knew they weren't really fighting it for humanity), and saw YorHa as a breakthrough that could turn it around, but they had no idea how hopeless that was because they didn't realize the war had lasted as long as it had by the machines' choice. The machines were basically just keeping them around to fulfill their purpose of fighting the enemy that the aliens left them, and then to farm exp for evolution once they found a way to escape those orders.
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HMM okay. So was there a reason the meat box/soul box/god box were so excited about the player showing up to unlock them and get into the main tower? Do you think we’re meant to read that as the machine network egging on the androids to attack them in order to ???, or is it more directed at the player - “come jump through these hoops, we know you’re gonna do it, we promise we’ll give you a prize?
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I don't remember where it's made clear, but YorHa were always intended to be expendable. The black boxes they run from are basically machine lifeform tech, so the other androids don't consider them 'real' people.
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The idea was to create the "myth" for lack of a better word, of humans on the moon, who were in contact with YoRHa on the bunker, then deliberately let the machines destroy the bunker. Now the regular Android forces have "something to fight for" without ever having to worry about dealing with contacting or seeing the humans that don't actually exist. it's not explicitly stated, but I got the sense that neither side really wants to win the war. Machines need an enemy to give them purpose, as their entire reason for being is to "destroy the enemy," while Android high command, or whoever masterminded YoRHa, can't win because then the humans would logocally come back... which can't actually happen, and then the whole house of cards collapses.
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General Battuta posted:HMM okay. So was there a reason the meat box/soul box/god box were so excited about the player showing up to unlock them and get into the main tower? Do you think we’re meant to read that as the machine network egging on the androids to attack them in order to ???, or is it more directed at the player - “come jump through these hoops, we know you’re gonna do it, we promise we’ll give you a prize? The end run in the last act was an attempt by the robots to super jump their own evolution by seeing how far 9S/A2 would actually go to stop them and learning off of it while simultaneously putting them in an unwinnable, despair-laden position. But a wrench gets thrown into the works when the machine core consciousnesses start arguing on the efficacy of allowing the androids so far into their stronghold and you get the mini-civil war which launches the whole network into chaos. During which, Eve and his portion of the network upload themselves into the rocket and eventually give 9S the option to join them. As far as the purpose for YorHa, a lot of the detail is not revealed in the game, but it's already been hit on that the have no purpose since humanity is actually extinct. But what is not really covered in the game is YorHa's origins. e.g.; YorHa is only like...15-20 years old as an organization by the beginning of the game. And it's creator knew that the idea/religion of humanity was necessary to keep the android forces fighting. What he didn't anticipate was getting merc'd by the protype 9 unit once he learned the truth. Then Unit 9 decided to keep the grift going because he also realized it was necessary, but also allowed the machines to build in the back door into YorHa's servers because he knew if he learned the truth, other YorHa units also eventually would and cause issues. AlternateNu fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Jun 3, 2023 |
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One of the themes of the game is the question "what happens to the gods when the humans are all gone?"
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Just got this game for birthday, only know some vague things about it but I'm excited to check it out. Do you got any tips for first-time players? There are some links to mods and bug fixes in the op, are they still necessary?
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The end of Route A isn’t the end of the game, Route B is basically a director’s cut version of the A Route but it’s also the prelude to the last like third of the game. That’s the important one that gets most people.
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You’ll know when it ends If you’re gonna do side quests make sure they actually move over to the “completed” status before you carry on to the next route because if you don’t finish them all the way then their progress resets between routes
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I played it through on PC a few months back and didn't need any extra mods or fixes, it was playable as is.
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I played it on PC before they fixed the resolution thing and still had a blast, so you should have a great time
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macabresca posted:Just got this game for birthday, only know some vague things about it but I'm excited to check it out. Do you got any tips for first-time players? There are some links to mods and bug fixes in the op, are they still necessary? If you haven't started yet, you might want to begin on easy mode. The intro is kinda long, you can't save and you may die. You can change the difficulty any time
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Dont sweat it, just play. It'll be very obvious when the end is. Nothing is permanently missable except for one side story thing its worth looking up near the end, or just ask here when you're there.
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macabresca posted:Just got this game for birthday, only know some vague things about it but I'm excited to check it out. Do you got any tips for first-time players? There are some links to mods and bug fixes in the op, are they still necessary? I wish someone had told me that you gain access to fast travel between checkpoints after a decent number of plot beats in the main story. I wasted so much unnecessary time running back and forth across the desert completing side quests that I could have done much more quickly if I'd only advanced the plot a bit more.
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There hasn’t been any update lately on if/when the anime is coming back has there?
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Paperhouse posted:If you haven't started yet, you might want to begin on easy mode. The intro is kinda long, you can't save and you may die. You can change the difficulty any time Followup to this, *don't* start on hard mode. The damage is brutal.
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