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MorningMoon posted:chapter officially out So thats the second time ive seen a rook attack being used instead of TCB's smothered mate.TCBs quality ahs felt worse and worse, have they changed translators recently? I used to liek TCB more than the official but TCB has been sounding more corny lately, and TCB has been changing things arbitrarily a lot too. Like did they just see a chess move and think "Wait theres a more appropriate chess move Sabo could have said" and subbed it in? Absolutely awful if thats the case. I feel like a year ago, TCB would have been the one that has Imu's speech be relatively tame, with just a few thees and thous while Viz would have been the ones to crank up the corny old timey words but now theyre completely opposite Meme Emulator fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Jun 4, 2023 |
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So how did Viz translate Cobra’s reaction to Imu’s name? I remember that being a bit of a sticking point a few pages ago
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Jun 4, 2023 17:22
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Larryb posted:So how did Viz translate Cobra’s reaction to Imu’s name? I remember that being a bit of a sticking point a few pages ago He said that Imu was the name of one of the 20
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Jun 4, 2023 18:02
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Waffleman_ posted:He said that Imu was the name of one of the 20 Oh, so it was exactly the same as the TCB version then
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Jun 4, 2023 18:13
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Larryb posted:So how did Viz translate Cobra’s reaction to Imu’s name? I remember that being a bit of a sticking point a few pages ago It's a tad more vague "I know the name Imu already. But it must be a coincidence... among the first 20-"
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Jun 4, 2023 18:27
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I know the standard "you're a dead man walking but I'll answer your questions anyway" is a bit of a cliche but I like how it's presented here. Imu doesn't actually care about answering Cobra's questions, they're only bothering to because Cobra is asking dangerous questions that will kill him, and Imu's answers provides context for the question Imu is pretty sure they know the answer to, but want confirmation anyway.
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Jun 4, 2023 18:46
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Marluxia posted:I know the standard "you're a dead man walking but I'll answer your questions anyway" is a bit of a cliche but I like how it's presented here. Imu doesn't actually care about answering Cobra's questions, they're only bothering to because Cobra is asking dangerous questions that will kill him, and Imu's answers provides context for the question Imu is pretty sure they know the answer to, but want confirmation anyway.
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Jun 4, 2023 19:23
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Imu’s powers in this chapter have me wondering if the term “void century” might be a bit more literal than metaphorical. Also I wonder if Imu having Lily’s sword in their garden is for the same reason they’ve kept the big hat around? Simple trophies, or maybe the successors to the will of Joy Boy and Lily having those would be a problem? Gear 5 Luffy has shown that the hat is no longer too big for he gotdamn head… 
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Jun 4, 2023 22:25
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joy boy's hat... and it's autographed! but i cant wear that. only emperor type guys with big heads like me can wear things like that
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Jun 4, 2023 22:34
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Based on the way Imu talks about the poneglyphs being "scattered across the world", I'm going to guess that it was done by a previous user of Kuma's ability. In that case, Lily's "mistake" could have been giving the fruit to the person in question. That would actually be a neat parallel to the debate on whether Luffy eating the Nika fruit was planned by Shanks or a simple twist of fate. It's like poetry, it rhymes
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Jun 4, 2023 23:06
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Lily had Kuma's DF and made a big show of tripping and yelling ooooops! as she dove headfirst into the pile of ponegliffs
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Jun 4, 2023 23:31
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Artur/Library of Ohara has a pretty compelling theory regarding Imu's true powers/identity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQEIeGV8wZQ I could buy Imu being a petulant immortal god-child, but I think Imu having ink/cartoon devil powers as a parallel to Luffy's Nika cartoon powers is even more interesting, especially the small detail of the devil tail/arrow thing dripping as it's shot toward Cobra. Having one of the final ultimate battles of One Piece be between two cartoon characters would be amazing, if nothing else.
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Jun 4, 2023 23:50
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I forget, but how much did we see before of Fujitora and GreenBull's clash? The wording that Fujitora Helped the revolutionaries is strong
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Jun 5, 2023 00:32
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My man Fujitora def helped free them slaves.
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Jun 5, 2023 00:44
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SyntheticPolygon posted:My man Fujitora def helped free them slaves. U-DO Burger posted:Fujitora made a big show of tripping and yelling ooooops! as he dropped his meteors right in the path of the pursuing guards. Star Platinum posted:It's like poetry, it rhymes
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Jun 5, 2023 01:11
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Fujitora is cool because he's chill but also ready to obliterate all life in the area for no reason whatsoever
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Jun 5, 2023 01:26
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:Fujitora is cool because he's chill but also ready to obliterate all life in the area for no reason whatsoever The reason is "gently caress the system" but in Fujitora's eyes everything is the System. Except slaves.
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Jun 5, 2023 01:41
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:The reason is "gently caress the system" but in Fujitora's eyes everything is the System. Except slaves. 
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Jun 5, 2023 01:57
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Star Platinum posted:Based on the way Imu talks about the poneglyphs being "scattered across the world", I'm going to guess that it was done by a previous user of Kuma's ability. This would tie neatly into the very long running fan theory that Vivi will eventually inherit the Paw Paw Fruit.
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Jun 5, 2023 01:58
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:Fujitora is cool because he's chill but also ready to obliterate all life in the area for no reason whatsoever He was ready to drop a meteor on Marijoa. Super embarassing that Imu and Five Elders can't contain the Nika fruit but also supposing they are immortal they used the Op-Op fruit then let it repeatedly be out of their grasp even allowing a Warlord of the Sea control it without ganking him and getting it back.
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:Artur/Library of Ohara has a pretty compelling theory regarding Imu's true powers/identity: I hate this guys youtube voice, but I did like him pointing out Sabo becomes 'Sad Boy' to compare against Luffy being Joy Boy.
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law is sengokus grandson?
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yup
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:law is sengokus grandson? I think just in a similar way that Ace is Garp's grandson. Sengoku was a surrogate father to Rosinate (Doflamingo's brother) and Rosinate was essentially a surrogate father to Law.
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MorningMoon posted:I forget, but how much did we see before of Fujitora and GreenBull's clash? The wording that Fujitora Helped the revolutionaries is strong It is kind of weird how every admiral has their own form of justice, except Greenbull. That dude seems to just be what if Axe Hand Morgan actually had power.
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Gyges posted:It is kind of weird how every admiral has their own form of justice, except Greenbull. That dude seems to just be what if Axe Hand Morgan actually had power. That’s a little harsh, Morgan was just a bully, Green Bull is a cop doing his job, which is a delusional bully propping up a crooked system.
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Gyges posted:It is kind of weird how every admiral has their own form of justice, except Greenbull. That dude seems to just be what if Axe Hand Morgan actually had power. As I understand it, Green Bull's deal is that he's a true believer in the World Government and sincerely believes that Celestial Dragons are living gods, and the best deal anyone else can get is being their unquestioning lackey. Akainu, while still a fascist, has never had any strong opinions about them beyond 'this is the price to pay in order to maintain a strong hand on the world', and now that they're actively meddling in what he considers Navy business, he's visibly starting to chafe under their directives.
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Jun 5, 2023 07:15
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If anything, Axe Hand Morgan is his natural enemy 
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Inadequately posted:As I understand it, Green Bull's deal is that he's a true believer in the World Government and sincerely believes that Celestial Dragons are living gods, and the best deal anyone else can get is being their unquestioning lackey. Akainu, while still a fascist, has never had any strong opinions about them beyond 'this is the price to pay in order to maintain a strong hand on the world', and now that they're actively meddling in what he considers Navy business, he's visibly starting to chafe under their directives. Does he, though? Like when we see him fight the Revolutionaries you see him mentally telling the Celestial Dragons to gently caress off to safety because he can't fight properly while they're around. It's like he considers them (very dangerous and stupid) nuisances. The whole "Celestial Dragons are gods!" spiel he spouts in Wanokuni (which happens AFTER the Revelly fight) seems more like an act he's trying to keep up than anything else.
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The implication is that Imu is an immortal rmember of the First Twenty from 800 years ago. If so, how is Imu unaffected by the 19 sword oath? Did Imu put in a "fake" sword? Is Imu part of the Nefertari family without the "D"? Nonetheless, Imu clearly abhors the D and is wary of it. Imu even stepped out of the shadows and risk the world knowing of the truth in order to learn about Lily's full name.
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Star Platinum posted:Based on the way Imu talks about the poneglyphs being "scattered across the world", I'm going to guess that it was done by a previous user of Kuma's ability. In that case, Lily's "mistake" could have been giving the fruit to the person in question. That would actually be a neat parallel to the debate on whether Luffy eating the Nika fruit was planned by Shanks or a simple twist of fate. It's like poetry, it rhymes They're made from sea stone so should be immune to devil fruit powers
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Jose posted:They're made from sea stone so should be immune to devil fruit powers That's why you put them in a cardboard box and then use the Paw Paw Fruit on the box. Once the package lands, nature (wind, wild animals, whatever) will get rid of the packaging and leave behind a shiny Inscribed Sea Stone Cube.
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They’re not made of Seastone, and I don’t think Seastone is entirely immune to devil fruit powers either. Law has cut through seastone cuffs before I believe
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Does he, though? Wasn't his thing basically "hierarchy is natural and good and the CDs are at the top so therefore they're the greatest"? That's not really incompatible with them being a problem for him in that moment
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Flair posted:The implication is that Imu is an immortal rmember of the First Twenty from 800 years ago. If so, how is Imu unaffected by the 19 sword oath? Did Imu put in a "fake" sword? Is Imu part of the Nefertari family without the "D"? I mean, he could have just waited until the other 19 died and then ascended to the throne that way, it's not like he couldn't just lie.
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RatHat posted:They’re not made of Seastone, and I don’t think Seastone is entirely immune to devil fruit powers either. Law has cut through seastone cuffs before I believe oh you're right. Them being made on Wano and seastone coming from there I just assumed they were also made of it
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While seastone isnt indestructible (just very strong), poneglyphs are. aside from the etching technique of the kozuki you cant so much as mar them.
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Flair posted:The implication is that Imu is an immortal rmember of the First Twenty from 800 years ago. If so, how is Imu unaffected by the 19 sword oath? Did Imu put in a "fake" sword? Is Imu part of the Nefertari family without the "D"? Again, if Imu was part of the first twenty, him also being a Nefertari would be a bit odd because like what would there be two different countries ruled by the Nefertari line? Feel like Cobra would have brought that up.
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OK, here's a theory: Imu ate a Devil Fruit...the Devil Devil Fruit, specifically. (Maybe it was the first known Devil Fruit, and that's why they're called Devil Fruits.) In addition to the pointy tail, he can make supernaturally enforced contracts. That's why the sword thing matters; it's not just a mundane agreement between the Twenty Kings. The loophole that allows Imu to rule the world relies on either Lily's or Imu's own sword not being present, but may also forbid him from destroying the sword. Possibly the Elder Stars don't have Devil Fruits of their own, but can transform because of their bargains with Imu. There's one potential big problem with this theory, which might have an interesting explanation: Doflamingo claims that D stands for devil. Was Imu one of the original Ds who ended up betraying their ideals?
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Silver2195 posted:Doflamingo claims that D stands for devil. This didn't actually happen, afaik.
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