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FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007

Sweet 'N Sour
Can't
Melt
Steel Beams
Screw the haters, I love The Storyteller.

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CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.
Ok Julian

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

FISHMANPET posted:

Screw the haters, I love The Storyteller.

ok. why

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

FuturePastNow posted:

The baseball episode is fun behind the scenes because apparently Nana Visitor was the actual worst player on the cast, she couldn't throw or catch a ball at all. Meanwhile, Rom's actor Max Grodénchik was a semi-pro player who literally could not play badly enough for the script and had to do everything left handed

I love that Odo is having an absolute blast playing ump

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



FISHMANPET posted:

Screw the haters, I love The Storyteller.
I like it better than several other S1 episodes.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.

IShallRiseAgain posted:

I mean being functional is better than being non-functional and being heavily reliant on others for even simple day to day tasks. It also gives them a lot more freedom. The others realistically are going to be stuck at the institute for the rest of their lives because there is no cure for their condition. It'd be like giving a non-verbal autistic person the ability to communicate and the ability to live on their own.

I got that, that's why I said it was unintentional. I just thought the language and behaviour were amusingly similar. Also I love that by season 7, both Benjamin and Dukat have gone completely native, just one is Bajoran Jesus and the other is Bajoran Satan.

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


Payndz posted:

Damar also got one of the most hilariously delivered lines in all of Star Trek. "Well hellooooooooooo!" :haw:

Maybe you should talk to Worf again!

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Finster Dexter posted:

:goonsay:

what spinoff stuff?

DS9 Novel "Hollow Men".

Tighclops
Jan 23, 2008

Unable to deal with it


Grimey Drawer
*me, vaping*

the Dal'Rok!!

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.
goddamn most of keikos bad writing seems to crop up in "time's orphan" which is probably the weakest episode of the season

other than the bits with worf and kirayoshi, gung gung gung indeed

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
I have like 8 episodes of TNG and I'm actually kinda sad about it, the show has been a nice companion for getting through the NFL offseason doldrums that I always dread.

Anyway, the natural choice would be to jump right into DS9, but I do want to ask if there might be any benefit to watching DS9 and Voyager side by side instead of just one after the other. Did they have a lot of crossover? I know they partially aired at the same time so most fans at the time would've been watching both, at least for a few years there.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
The first episode of Voyager begins with the ship docked at Deep Space Nine. Quark also has a cameo in that episode.

That’s the only crossover.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




No. The only crossover is that there's a few plot points in the initial premise of Voyager that get set up by earlier events during DS9 season 2, but there's no actual crossover during their runs, you gain nothing by watching them in parallel.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Basebf555 posted:

I have like 8 episodes of TNG and I'm actually kinda sad about it, the show has been a nice companion for getting through the NFL offseason doldrums that I always dread.

Anyway, the natural choice would be to jump right into DS9, but I do want to ask if there might be any benefit to watching DS9 and Voyager side by side instead of just one after the other. Did they have a lot of crossover? I know they partially aired at the same time so most fans at the time would've been watching both, at least for a few years there.

they have no crossover, due to voyager's whole being in the delta quadrant thing - quark and his bar and ds9 are where voyager leaves from in the first episode, but that's it. technically if you want to get literally every detail about the maquis you should watch ds9's "the maquis" two-parter, but really "journey's end" and "preemptive strike" in tng are meant to give you plenty to just jump right into voyager.

later on there's some tng characters who make reappearances in voyager - mostly barclay, and also a little troi.

e: it should be noted they couldn't even pull off the little crossover bit of voyager's origins correctly. chakotay was SUPPOSED to be from the planet in journey's end, but they bobbled that. robert duncan mcneill was supposed to be continuing nick locarno (from "the first duty") but that got deep-sixed, likely for royalty reasons. voyager ends up being this puzzle piece that's supposed to fit in with that tng s7/ds9 s2 context and just doesn't quite fit.

Arivia fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Jun 5, 2023

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Ok well I'll at least watch the first season of DS9 on it's own in that case. If I start to lose interest maybe I'll start going back and forth.

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


Arivia posted:

later on there's some tng characters who make reappearances in voyager - mostly barclay, and also a little troi.

And also the two Ferengi who got lost in the Barzan Wormhole

Paper Lion
Dec 14, 2009




Basebf555 posted:

Ok well I'll at least watch the first season of DS9 on it's own in that case. If I start to lose interest maybe I'll start going back and forth.

judging by your avatar you need to sit your country rear end down and mainline all of ds9 pronto

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Paper Lion posted:

judging by your avatar you need to sit your country rear end down and mainline all of ds9 pronto

Lots of Combs in DS9? I do recall hearing that he had several Trek appearances but I don't remember the details.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Yeah, I'd say his definitive Trek role is in that series The alien that commissions the Major Kira deepfake porno from Quark

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Basebf555 posted:

Lots of Combs in DS9? I do recall hearing that he had several Trek appearances but I don't remember the details.

Paper Lion
Dec 14, 2009




he also has a pretty notable role in enterprise. always bums me out thinking about how if theyd gotten to season 5 shran would have joined the enterprise as a crew member and combs would have finally made it to regular cast member in a trek show

Burning_Monk
Jan 11, 2005
Mad, Bad, and Dangerous to know

Paper Lion posted:

he also has a pretty notable role in enterprise. always bums me out thinking about how if theyd gotten to season 5 shran would have joined the enterprise as a crew member and combs would have finally made it to regular cast member in a trek show

Each episode a cast member is replaced by another Combs character. Until you hit critical mass of Combs and the universe implodes.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Burning_Monk posted:

Each episode a cast member is replaced by another Combs character. Until you hit critical mass of Combs and the universe implodes.

And is reborn as a universe filled with Andrew Robinsons.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Mister Kingdom posted:

And is reborn as a universe filled with Andrew Robinsons.

Well now Doctor....that would be an interesting universe indeed!

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

zoux posted:

Yeah, I'd say his definitive Trek role is in that series The alien that commissions the Major Kira deepfake porno from Quark

Star Trek once more predicting the future of sleaze!!

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
I like the Vic Fontaine stuff in later seasons, it's a cute idea. Also the Chimera was a really cool episode. I loved the other changeling who has mastered form, even able to become something formless

BioEnchanted fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Jun 5, 2023

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

BioEnchanted posted:

I like the Vic Fontaine stuff in later seasons, it's a cute idea. Also the Chimera was a really cool episode. I loved the other changeling who has mastered form, even able to become something formless

I know what you mean, but that does make it sound like a wuxia movie.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
Also if I had an idiot like Sloan constantly wandering into my bedroom unannounced for some idiotic mission, I'd start sleeping with no bottoms on and just try to make our encounters as uncomfortable as possible. "My bedroom, my rules. You don't want me flopping aggressively around the room, arrange meetings in a more considerate place."

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011

COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING

Section 31 has already seen what you are packing and frankly, we aren't that impressed

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013
It's funny, the ACTUAL Section 31 clause in the Federation charter is the sexual harassment guidelines.

V-Men
Aug 15, 2001

Don't it make your dick bust concrete to be in the same room with two noble, selfless public servants.
Section 31's original mandate was to make sure everyone wore regulation underwear to sleep.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

V-Men posted:

Section 31's original mandate was to make sure everyone wore regulation underwear to sleep.

Ah yes, :turianass:Mormons:turianass:.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Feldegast42 posted:

Section 31 has already seen what you are packing and frankly, we aren't that impressed

Counterpoint: if you're getting your idiot son on illegal and experimental smart DNA treatments, you'd probably also do a penis enhancement.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
I kind of want to see a show where a small ship gets attacked by some bigger villain ships, a crewmember gets annoyed, opens a general com channel and just yells "WOULD YOU PLEASE gently caress OFF!" and it works.

Sash!
Mar 16, 2001


nine-gear crow posted:

Ah yes, :turianass:Mormons:turianass:.

Hey pal, the Expanse thread is over that way

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
It's interesting that the last few episodes are a big 9-parter with the titles even ending in "Part 5", "Part 6" etc. I'm at episode 20 of the final season. Also I love how much of a mess the Breen ship is, it looks like it was cobbled together with no rhyme or reason.

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007

Sweet 'N Sour
Can't
Melt
Steel Beams

Since I sniped, I might as well try and explain why. Which, I'm not entirely sure why. I find it entertaining. I think it's kind of interesting that there is some kind of spiritual force at play here, which our rational logical star fleet officers aren't at all expecting, which sort of hints a little bit about what Bajor is all about. I think it's fun to see O'Brien's and Bashir's relationship start blossoming. It's fun to see O'Brien not do a very good job at uniting the villagers. "Ok, let's all really try now!". And see him get really confused and flustered when, for example, the village elders offer him his choice of young women to be his wife. I think it's clever how the original storyteller basically planned all this, as a way to get his real apprentice prepared for the job. Because as it turns out it really wasn't about how prepared the storyteller was, it was about how much the village believed the storyteller. It's all just... I don't know, I think it's fun.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

BioEnchanted posted:

I like the Vic Fontaine stuff in later seasons, it's a cute idea. Also the Chimera was a really cool episode. I loved the other changeling who has mastered form, even able to become something formless

Laas is such a loving dickhead, I guess that's just how they naturally are. Hertzler's great in that role. Agreed on the Vic stuff, I love the Vic stuff, all of it, I love that guy. Though I'm surprised Quark allows a better bar to go on within his bar.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
I love how confusing the Breen are, even Weyoun's got no idea what the gently caress is going on with those robot wolf-lizard things with fridge-suits despite existing on a temperate planet. I like to think they don't need the suits and their faces are just normal humanoid without even any weird prosthetics, they're just loving with people by wearing weird shaped helmets.

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HD DAD
Jan 13, 2010

Generic white guy.

Toilet Rascal
My favorite scene in DS9 is the mid-scene cut to

Thot Gor: *unintelligible garbage sound*

Weyoun: Ohohoho hahah you are so funny Thot Gor - oh hi Damar I didn’t see you there :smug:

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