Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
(Thread IKs: weg, Toxic Mental)
 
  • Post
  • Reply
zone
Dec 6, 2016

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1665742066264027139
Things appear to be going very well in the Bakhmut direction.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006

zone posted:

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1665742066264027139
Things appear to be going very well in the Bakhmut direction.

Ivanivske is west of Bakhmut, that's odd that they would be advancing there since they never lost that territory. That could be indicative that Wagner had captured more of the surrounding Bakhmut area than was reported

OzyMandrill
Aug 12, 2013

Look upon my words
and despair

Tarquinn posted:

Can't be true.

This one seems to be working.

It appears to work by being set on fire. This is an obvious advantage with modern Russian tactics.

beer_war
Mar 10, 2005

HonorableTB posted:

So the war has been going on long enough that some legit historical scholarship has been done and published. I'm about to dive into this and see how it is:



I literally finished that book a few days ago, lol. It was useful as a refresher on what happened before the full-scale invasion. Since then, I've followed the war semi-obsessively anyway, so I didn't learn too much new there. He finished writing in February 2023, so don't expect anything newer than that. Can't blame the author for that, of course, just something to be aware of.

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
counteroffensive confirmed to have begun, ukrainians masters of maskirovka

https://twitter.com/intermarium24/status/1665748337067171840?s=20

Bluemillion
Aug 18, 2008

I got your dispensers
right here

HonorableTB posted:

counteroffensive confirmed to have begun, ukrainians masters of maskirovka

https://twitter.com/intermarium24/status/1665748337067171840?s=20

Baba Yaga has entered the chat.

Pants of brown, now fall down.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



HonorableTB posted:

counteroffensive confirmed to have begun, ukrainians masters of maskirovka

https://twitter.com/intermarium24/status/1665748337067171840?s=20

Not going to lie, if I was a poor Russian infantryman/ convict sent to die and the Baba Yaga house started rolling towards me, I would surrender/ desert in heartbeat

Holy poo poo that's terrifying

TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Jun 5, 2023

Mr Teatime
Apr 7, 2009

GABA ghoul posted:

Lmao, I made a joke in this thread that the Russian investigation will present a half eaten hamburger from the ocean floor as evidence of American involvement. I was soooooo loving close

Imagine believing that Americans would leave a burger half eaten.

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1665745253305909248?s=20

Victis
Mar 26, 2008

HonorableTB posted:

Ivanivske is west of Bakhmut, that's odd that they would be advancing there since they never lost that territory. That could be indicative that Wagner had captured more of the surrounding Bakhmut area than was reported

Not really, they've (RU) been around the SE outskirts since February attacking the one road into Bakhmut

jmnmu
Nov 21, 2004
f
that boot on the bottom of the ocean has me thinking that Putin might be the good guy after all

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
https://twitter.com/Sino_Market/status/1665691135035994114

(verbatim from MFA release so more flattering of the Chinese position than it really is)

That said:

https://twitter.com/fbermingham/status/1665761591432716288

it's true that if China is not supplying Russia with arms now, then there is no need to move them out of that position

e: whoop I meant this for the other thread. Well here it is

Oldsmobile
Jun 13, 2006

They should just have a "Pacific Treaty Organization" or something and just copy everything from NATO.

Roblo
Dec 10, 2007

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

mobby_6kl posted:

New russian MLRS just dropped

https://i.imgur.com/GShf22n.mp4

Mind Hwacha doing with that thing, you could have someone's eye out.

Tuna-Fish
Sep 13, 2017

Tarkus posted:

I'm more surprised that it's only 77m to the pipeline location. Just a moderately deep dive you could easily do on air.

Back then someone pointed out that a submarine can't transit the Danish straits submerged, and someone asked why?

The answer is that it's so shallow that it would scrape the bottom while the tower is still visible. The Baltic is shallow.

Oldsmobile
Jun 13, 2006

When the Estonia ferry sunk, it's stern hit the bottom while the bow was still on the surface.

Pine Cone Jones
Dec 6, 2009

You throw me the acorn, I throw you the whip!

Tuna-Fish posted:

Back then someone pointed out that a submarine can't transit the Danish straits submerged, and someone asked why?

The answer is that it's so shallow that it would scrape the bottom while the tower is still visible. The Baltic is shallow.

I propose a submarine-ground vessel. I will need 500 million for a study and a case of tequila, also immunity from all charges.

Wee
Dec 16, 2022

by Fluffdaddy
Learn the bass or start a cribbage group

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1665782366596415490?s=20

Strategic aviation comms frequencies have also lit up, putin's being a big piece of poo poo about the counteroffensive!

you can listen in here if you wish, assuming you have a method of pulling in sideband transmissions (there are several online radio receiver pages you can use for this, use the site I linked to grab the frequencies. The other common ones are 4694 Kilohertz USB, 2016 UTC): https://priyom.org/military-stations/russia/air-force


and because i am crazy, i cycle through these frequencies when there's periods of increased bavovna to see what might be heard:

https://www.numbers-stations.com/russia/russian-air-force-stations/

there's a surprising amount of poo poo talking in those comms

HonorableTB fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Jun 5, 2023

Dumb Sex-Parrot
Dec 25, 2020

 
Absurd Pox Term
Rad Buxom Strep
     
Retard Ox Bumps
Borax Dumpster
     
Dares Box Trump

Roblo posted:

Mind Hwacha doing with that thing, you could have someone's eye out.

:golfclap:

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012


Oldsmobile posted:

They should just have a "Pacific Treaty Organization" or something and just copy everything from NATO.

There used to be one:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Asia_Treaty_Organization

Lima
Jun 17, 2012

Tuna-Fish posted:

Back then someone pointed out that a submarine can't transit the Danish straits submerged, and someone asked why?

The answer is that it's so shallow that it would scrape the bottom while the tower is still visible. The Baltic is shallow.

It's to do with the salinity, not the lack of depth. The Baltic sea is very brackish and the huge russian ballistic subs were designed to dive in the Atlantic.
Their smaller diesel electric subs that can dive in the Baltic are prohibited to pass through the straits while submerged by treaty.

Pekinduck
May 10, 2008

Wee posted:

Learn the bass or start a cribbage group

Wrong thread?

Obviously you gotta drive the submarine sideways. They need to put me in charge

Oldsmobile
Jun 13, 2006

HonorableTB posted:

https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1665782366596415490?s=20

Strategic aviation comms frequencies have also lit up, putin's being a big piece of poo poo about the counteroffensive!


Wonder if they could down those Tupolevs if they snuck a Patriot all the way up next to the broder?

frumpykvetchbot
Feb 20, 2004

PROGRESSIVE SCAN
Upset Trowel

Lima posted:

Their smaller diesel electric subs that can dive in the Baltic are prohibited to pass through the straits while submerged by treaty.

Okay but who's gonna check?

The Swedes had all kinds of problems with russian midget subs in the waters adjacent to Stockholm, since forever. Fuckery launched out of Kaliningrad. Mostly these raids were never discovered or only years after some locals finally get around to reporting sightings to the police.

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006

Oldsmobile posted:

Wonder if they could down those Tupolevs if they snuck a Patriot all the way up next to the broder?

Maybe. The flight paths for the Tu-95s coming from the Kola peninsula take a southern route well into Russian territory before banking west and launching the missiles over the Caspian sea. They might be able to nail it on its closest approach but not worth risking a patriot battery for a couple of bears if the missiles will be intercepted by air defense anyways.

https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1665800958662549504?s=20

Lima
Jun 17, 2012

frumpykvetchbot posted:

Okay but who's gonna check?

The Swedes had all kinds of problems with russian midget subs in the waters adjacent to Stockholm, since forever. Fuckery launched out of Kaliningrad. Mostly these raids were never discovered or only years after some locals finally get around to reporting sightings to the police.

It was more to answer why russian subs pass through DK surfaced, but right now noone.
The danish navy scrapped all sonar capabilities years ago and have postponed purchasing new equipment.

Surely the nordstream bombings made the procurement departments wake up. Surely!

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

HonorableTB posted:

Maybe. The flight paths for the Tu-95s coming from the Kola peninsula take a southern route well into Russian territory before banking west and launching the missiles over the Caspian sea. They might be able to nail it on its closest approach but not worth risking a patriot battery for a couple of bears if the missiles will be intercepted by air defense anyways.

https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1665800958662549504?s=20

Why do they launch from the Caspian instead of further north?

zone
Dec 6, 2016

https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1665724355052011522
No sooner than you'd think they hit rock bottom, they take a shovel and even start digging.

Deki
May 12, 2008

It's Hammer Time!

zone posted:

https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1665724355052011522
No sooner than you'd think they hit rock bottom, they take a shovel and even start digging.


Old soviet maps were insanely good. The one for my hometown was actually better than the planning maps the city had on hand at the time.

That being said, lmao. If you told me that post was a fake parodying a lot of pro-russian attitudes towards soviet tech, I'd believe you. It's just so dumb.

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006

a pipe smoking dog posted:

Why do they launch from the Caspian instead of further north?

Ukrainian Air defense range isn't sufficient to hit aircraft launching from the Caspian, but the flip side is that just because Ukrainian Air defense can't intercept at that range doesn't mean they still can't see the incoming missiles on radar, so the increased range gives air defense more time to prepare intercept courses and fire interceptors.

bees everywhere
Nov 19, 2002

Deki posted:

Old soviet maps were insanely good. The one for my hometown was actually better than the planning maps the city had on hand at the time.

That being said, lmao. If you told me that post was a fake parodying a lot of pro-russian attitudes towards soviet tech, I'd believe you. It's just so dumb.

We were still using Soviet maps in Afghanistan in '07, it was one of the few times in my life where my practice with Cyrillic turned out to be actually useful. Our printed maps were US-made but for some reason half of the maps in the BFT were from the USSR. They got the job done at least.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

a pipe smoking dog posted:

Why do they launch from the Caspian instead of further north?

Not sure if it's 100% true but one explanation that I've seen is that they want to launch over water and not their own territory in case the missile fails to launch properly and just falls to the ground. The White sea is too far away and the Black is too awkward and close to Ukraine so that's what they do.

Plus the air force can rack up lots of flight hours.

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

And engine hours :blyat:

Deus Ex Macklemore
Jul 2, 2004


Zelensky's Zealots

Lima posted:

It's to do with the salinity, not the lack of depth. The Baltic sea is very brackish and the huge russian ballistic subs were designed to dive in the Atlantic.

What does the salinity have to do with dive depth?

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Salty water is definitely more (less?) buoyant to be in but I wouldn't think it would inconvenience a submarine - could be totally wrong though?

free hubcaps
Oct 12, 2009

When you're talking about something as large as a submarine or ship salinity definitely does make a difference regarding displacement and load levels, see also the big freighters on the great lakes in the US

Butterfly Valley
Apr 19, 2007

I am a spectacularly bad poster and everyone in the Schadenfreude thread hates my guts.
FYI you’re talking to a literal submariner

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
I'll have a sub sandwich please

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Deus Ex Macklemore
Jul 2, 2004


Zelensky's Zealots

Butterfly Valley posted:

FYI you’re talking to a literal submariner

Who?

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply