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Young Freud posted:Apparently, it's Linda Yaccarino's first day on the job. Anyone want to setup a "death" pool on how long she lasts before resigning or getting fired? Just in time for this to drop? https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/technology/twitter-ad-sales-musk.html quote:Elon Musk recently said Twitter’s advertising business was on the upswing. “Almost all advertisers have come back,” he asserted, adding that the social media company could soon become profitable.
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Vegetable posted:Elon’s ownership literally led to more child porn proliferating on Twitter. "uh sure we improved our detection system. By the way and not related at all to our improved detection system, could you please tell us if you detect another spike in child porn?"
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Levitate posted:"uh sure we improved our detection system. By the way and not related at all to our improved detection system, could you please tell us if you detect another spike in child porn?" It's a much better response than "Don't worry, we've fixed it. Nothing else to see here."
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Since I've gotten hit with the discord renaming today, it has me wondering if anyone has figured out what the actual reason they made the change is? Cause the reasons they gave range from negligible to being worse in the new system. If the original system had become an uncontrolled spaghetti code that could be replaced with a simple drop in system saying that would have made people more accepting of the change.
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heard about the discord name thing from pyf's iosm thread. whats with supposed modern tech things (like birdsite, or discord) being unable to deal with multiple same usernames(and other things)? like real life meat space gets that people can in fact have the same name , hell a single family at the same house, a grandparent, parent, and grandkid can all have the same name, and while thats confusing, its not system breaking.
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Communist Zombie posted:Since I've gotten hit with the discord renaming today, it has me wondering if anyone has figured out what the actual reason they made the change is? Cause the reasons they gave range from negligible to being worse in the new system. If the original system had become an uncontrolled spaghetti code that could be replaced with a simple drop in system saying that would have made people more accepting of the change. You've always had a system id in discord that's a huge string of numbers that only needs to be seen by discord. That bit isn't changing and supports dropping in any kind of naming convention. It's why you could change your name freely before and still keep your friends list etc
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Communist Zombie posted:Since I've gotten hit with the discord renaming today, it has me wondering if anyone has figured out what the actual reason they made the change is? Cause the reasons they gave range from negligible to being worse in the new system. If the original system had become an uncontrolled spaghetti code that could be replaced with a simple drop in system saying that would have made people more accepting of the change. Since they are going by regdate with this, would you mind sharing your (approximate) regdate for Discord?
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That Italian Guy posted:Since they are going by regdate with this, would you mind sharing your (approximate) regdate for Discord? I thought this was true, but it doesn't seem to be actually the case across the board. I've seen paid subscribers with '18 get the update, but other friends of mine with late '15 regdates have only gotten their chance within the past week. It is very clear that the new system will likely not keep to the scale that Discord requires. While the old disambiguator system may have been strange and unusual, it at least solved the problem of conflicting usernames as a matter of course. The new system feels automatically flawed in this way. The public namespace of allowable usernames is something which these systems tend to quickly exhaust after 10 years. Discord was free of those problems, but it will quickly develop them now. The stated reason was that most users didn't know how to use the old disambiguator system effectively; to the tune of 60% of their sampled user base, anytime they asked. That is an issue that could've just as easily been solved through better education on the subject, not by throwing the old thing out entirely.
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They are, in fact, going by regdate, they're just doing so in two streams where the Nitro users are in advance of the non-Nitro users. (So, for instance, Nitro users might be into the 2019 regdates while non-Nitro might still be in 2017.) Another factor is whether you've closed and reopened your client lately; you seem to have to do that if you want to get the popup, so you should probably restart the client once or twice a day if you're still waiting. Their stated justification for it is likely the actual reason for doing it; they think people are having trouble finding each other (I think the figure they mentioned was 50% of all friend matches fail) and they're hoping that's less likely to happen if people are encouraged to not have the same username. They may not be right about this, but that doesn't mean they're necessarily lying about it. Of course, there could be more to it; maybe they're planning on adding some kind of public-update twitter-like service, where having a username without numbers on it might be more valuable. While it is a little annoying, they aren't really taking anything away; functionally usernames are unique already, because everyone's username is really the thing they picked plus four numbers. They're just making it possible to have usernames that don't have numbers in them, if you get lucky enough to get to your username first or are willing to change it to something else. If you were BaconLover#1729 before, nothing really stops you from changing your username to BaconLover1729 when the choice gets offered to you and just proceeding as you were before. Edit: It's also worth mentioning that Discord usernames are currently case-sensitive, so that BaconLover and baconlover are different. This is mildly insane, and they're fixing that too. (They apparently considered just changing that, but a lot of their users would still have had to change usernames in that scenario anyway so they just went whole-hog on it.) idonotlikepeas fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Jun 9, 2023 |
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That Italian Guy posted:Since they are going by regdate with this, would you mind sharing your (approximate) regdate for Discord?
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https://twitter.com/m_d_c_t/status/1668070983498977280 Next in the ongoing social media apocalypse: Discord!
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its been mention in this thread and other threads, but lol when discord blinks out of existence and a whole bunch of knowledge and info just vanishes.
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PhazonLink posted:its been mention in this thread and other threads, but lol when discord blinks out of existence and a whole bunch of knowledge and info just vanishes.
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It's cool and good that there's no TOS-satisfying way to back up the data in your server.
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StratGoatCom posted:https://twitter.com/m_d_c_t/status/1668070983498977280 Woah, what? Why would you hire ex-Meta mangers? Meta sucks, and so why hire mangers who worked on a poo poo project to also ruin your business?
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Woah, what? Why would you hire ex-Meta mangers? Meta sucks, and so why hire mangers who worked on a poo poo project to also ruin your business? My speculative take: the VC-appointed directors are helping out their friends who were laid off from other companies that had a lot of their money in. It's basically a bunch of sinecures for connected people, and they, in turn, bring over people who were loyal to them.
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Tbh some of those sound like classic startup problems. From the outside, even pre-pandemic, Discord never seemed like a company that had its poo poo together. Now there’s probably also a crisis in morale from the layoffs and declining growth. You can find negative glassdoor reviews of any company a dime a dozen.
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What's wrong with Discord? Is it just a hyperbolic response to the username system change?
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Szmitten posted:What's wrong with Discord? Is it just a hyperbolic response to the username system change? It is genuinely lovely that discord replaced publicly accessable websites as a storehouse of information if nothing else
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ImpAtom posted:It is genuinely lovely that discord replaced publicly accessable websites as a storehouse of information if nothing else It doesn't seem like Discord had much to do with this, so much as the users did?
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Papercut posted:It doesn't seem like Discord had much to do with this, so much as the users did? Yeah can't quite blame Discord, but it's getting increasingly annoying that to get any real info on like a smaller game you have to join their stupid rear end Discord.
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Discord at least seems to have potential for legit income streams with Nitro and Server Boosting? Dunno if those are enough to make it profitable, but I hope so since I use it more than any other big platform.
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Speaking of social media shittification, is there any info on Reddit’s current making GBS threads of the bed on API stuff?
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whydirt posted:Speaking of social media shittification, is there any info on Reddit’s current making GBS threads of the bed on API stuff? I don't think anything has meaningfully changed. A number of high-profile subreddits shut down today, for durations ranging from "48 hours" to "we will periodically check in to see if we should come back yet". Reddit themselves have not made any statement that I'm aware of since then
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"join a random discord server and check the pins and pray" is just such a regression in terms of sharing knowledge and its endlessly frustrating that it's the model for so many things, now but lowest-effort from contributors is generally gonna win in the end
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The worrisome part is that some subreddits do plan to shut down permanently. They are supposedly the ones who have unique moderation concerns, where they need to rely on third-party tools to moderate large subreddits at scale. If the API changes go through, the tools they rely on would probably go offline due to the pricing demands, and Reddit still doesn't have any ready-made equivalent toolkits to replace them. (Especially since any new tools would now need to be made entirely in-house by Reddit, as external developers would need to pay for privilege.) The quality and safety of those subreddits would no longer be ensured, especially if circumstances have them already vulnerable to ongoing troll incursions.
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ImpAtom posted:It is genuinely lovely that discord replaced publicly accessable websites as a storehouse of information if nothing else Yes, this times a million.
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Discord is nice because you can set up a private space and not have any random shithead dropping in or snooping on you. There is no LibsOfDiscord. If you want a public space, Reddit already exists. Why does Discord need to be Reddit v2?
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Yeah, it's decent at being a chat room but horrible at being a store of easily navigable information And the private siloing cuts both ways as there are absolutely nazi organization discords and even worse things that are now that much harder to expose and disrupt
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Yes, the nazis are hurting for spaces to communicate, stuck with just Twitter and Facebook and Parler and Gab and 4chan and 8chan and Telegram and Element and Signal and a dozen other sites lmao
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I'm paid and registered my account in October 2016 and got the name change several days ago so it does seem like the general order they had intended is working.socialsecurity posted:Yeah can't quite blame Discord, but it's getting increasingly annoying that to get any real info on like a smaller game you have to join their stupid rear end Discord. Not just for games but some adjacent nerd stuff too like if I need to know some specific thing about if X component talks to Y and stuff. poo poo that you used to be able to Google and find on some random person's site or could search out pretty easily on a message board is now I like cycle through joining and leaving like five Discord servers when I want to know this stuff, or it's trawling through comment sections which is almost (but not) worse. koolkal posted:Discord is nice because you can set up a private space and not have any random shithead dropping in or snooping on you. There is no LibsOfDiscord. Hard agree, I used Discord almost exclusively for this reason. The only I'm even paid is because I split that down to almost nothing between my partner and a bunch of our friends so we can stream stuff to each other in higher quality. I hate that all the platforms have/are starting to have stupid poo poo built around the mindset of how everyone obviously must be trying to grow their personal brand otherwise why are they even using our platform?
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socialsecurity posted:Yeah can't quite blame Discord, but it's getting increasingly annoying that to get any real info on like a smaller game you have to join their stupid rear end Discord. This is why I only play games that have guides on GameFaqs
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awesmoe posted:"join a random discord server and check the pins and pray" is just such a regression in terms of sharing knowledge and its endlessly frustrating that it's the model for so many things, now Half my Google searches end in "site:reddit.com" because I get to see questions and answers from real people. I wanted to find where a quest was in Diablo 4, but Google searches led to pages of incorrect, ad-riddled, AI-written websites. Only through the site:reddit.com trick was I able to find actual information. Discord is like back to IRC days. Half the time they don't even have anything useful pinned, and Discord's search feature is terrible.
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koolkal posted:Why does Discord need to be Reddit v2?
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Szmitten posted:What's wrong with Discord? Is it just a hyperbolic response to the username system change? it's a very good chat client that supports voice calls and video streaming it has also tried to be:
it has sucked at pretty much all of these things because none of them are what people actually care about also it's had some pretty major moderation blunders where nazis have been able to pretty openly get away with making internet clubhouses and nothing was done about them in a timely manner
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I use Discord as an image host because it's easier to upload something to chat than to use actual dedicated image hosts. Re: Nazis, I'm not really sure what we expect Discord to do about that unless it's monitoring every single server, which I'm sure we don't want for other reasons.
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Clarste posted:I use Discord as an image host because it's easier to upload something to chat than to use actual dedicated image hosts. also less subject to link rot since imgur has decided to poo poo the bed Clarste posted:Re: Nazis, I'm not really sure what we expect Discord to do about that unless it's monitoring every single server, which I'm sure we don't want for other reasons. keyword scraping can be done without requiring review of the content just ask some of SA's mods 
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