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Mr. Apollo posted:A bit of a tangent, but the BitTorrent tracker RARBG shut down a few days ago and the war in Ukraine is cited as one of the reasons. I mean if they knowingly employed Russian soldiers fighting in Ukraine then gently caress em
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 06:12 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 07:08 |
Yeah not really feeling that much sympathy for an illegal torrent site given the actual victims in Ukraine.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 06:16 |
Charliegrs posted:I mean if they knowingly employed Russian soldiers fighting in Ukraine then gently caress em The takeaway I got from that part was more that they had Russian and Ukrainian team members whose contributions to keeping the site running stopped when they were conscripted into/killed by the war. I don't know how the operating organisation of a torrent site is structured, but I would expect it to be closer to an open-source project of volunteers rather than a regular company with a boss and salaried employees.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 07:33 |
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beer_war posted:Shortly after that clip: Holy poo poo, when you get Megyn Kelly to call out a right-wing human rights monster...
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 08:04 |
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The US says over and over “we don’t support Ukrainian attacks on Russian territory, we don’t support Ukrainian attacks on Russian territory” so what does Putin do? Reduces his troops protecting the border regions to a skeleton crew, and sends all the rest into Ukraine. Now the Ukrainians are getting sick of it and are shelling and making incursions into Russian border towns anyway, using a figleaf excuse. Why wouldn’t they? Every Russian soldier sent to defend the Russian border is one that’s not in Ukraine.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 15:30 |
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Has there been no news other than what BBC reported?
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 16:09 |
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Boris Galerkin posted:Has there been no news other than what BBC reported? Ukrainians are in blackout. They also apparently are suppressing Russian communications: https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1665725383327580160 So there is a lot of panicky Russian stuff on telegram but it is hard to tell what, if anything, is accurate. Most people are saying attacks so far have been preliminary.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 16:37 |
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Boris Galerkin posted:Has there been no news other than what BBC reported? The NY Times reports some kind of attacks going on. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/06/05/world/russia-ukraine-news quote:Ukrainian forces stepped up their artillery strikes and ground assaults in a flurry of offensive military activity that by Monday was raging along multiple sectors of the front line, American and Russian officials said.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 16:38 |
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A few images of KO'd Leopard 2 on Twitter now. On Russian accounts so idk if authentic, but plausible. https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1665735979427037184
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 16:40 |
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Belgian MOD is apparently concerned that RVC troops doing raids into Russia were armed with Belgium-supplied FN rifles https://www.lesoir.be/517390/article/2023-06-04/guerre-en-ukraine-la-belgique-demande-des-clarifications-quant-lutilisation
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 16:41 |
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I'm reading on De Standaard that both Prigozhin and Ukraine are reporting Russian losses in the vicinity of Bakhmut, so it appears that that's where they're attacking, unless of course it's a diversion. e: it appears that they're attacking at several places along the front, not just Bakhmut. Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Jun 5, 2023 |
# ? Jun 5, 2023 16:42 |
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There's been a lot of reporting that probing attacks are occurring on the south: https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1665693257026658304?cxt=HHwWgICznaXM3Z0uAAAA Ukraine deputy Minister of Defense noted some 100s of meters of gains while "continuing the defense." https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1665742066264027139?cxt=HHwWhsC9sa7l850uAAAA I would say that this is a more serious set of probing attacks, if only because we haven't seen confirmed reports of the new armor being committed anywhere yet. Losses are definitely happening, but I would imagine the Russian reporting is exaggerating how well they are doing as is the standard.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 16:53 |
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Boris Galerkin posted:Has there been no news other than what BBC reported? I'm sure there is plenty of news of the same credibility of the BBC, but if you are looking for anything substantial you'll be waiting for a while. Neither side is going to be forthcoming with (truthful, comprehensive) information. Just embrance not knowing and wait for dust to settle.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 16:53 |
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Dandywalken posted:A few images of KO'd Leopard 2 on Twitter now. On Russian accounts so idk if authentic, but plausible. That's an AMX-10 RC, not a leopard. Edit: I really strongly recommend to everyone to not read any of the hype posters on twitter, pro-UA or pro-Rus, for at least a few days unless you want to get worked up over rumours and fake posting. All russian telegram and twitter is likely to be posting any video of destroyed Ukrainian equipment a million times, or just making a bunch of fakes, and claiming how thousands are dead. If you read too much it will break your brain. We aren't going to have a clear idea about anything for at least a few weeks, and this seems to still be more probing attacks.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 16:55 |
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Mon dieu. ...... Def plausible, ty for correction Dandywalken fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Jun 5, 2023 |
# ? Jun 5, 2023 16:56 |
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Boris Galerkin posted:Has there been no news other than what BBC reported? Here's the most current published source I've seen: https://www.economist.com/europe/2023/06/05/ukraines-counter-offensive-appears-to-have-begun Not every attack named in the Economist article is cited as making gains, so Russia is notching some successful defenses. But Twitter rumors corroborate that these are largely company-size assaults as described in the article, so neither the successes nor failures are likely to be huge; at this stage these still seem to be probing assaults, and the new offensive brigades have not appeared yet.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 17:00 |
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DJ Burette posted:Edit: I really strongly recommend to everyone to not read any of the hype posters on twitter, pro-UA or pro-Rus, for at least a few days unless you want to get worked up over rumours and fake posting. This is a very good advice for any topic and time regarding this war (but now especially) - unless you have a filtered stream of trusted sources, take a minute and double check any report for bias and plausibility. The often repeated notion that this war is the most recorded conflict in history may be somewhat true but you should realize that even if you are deep into OSINT you only have access to very limited and often corrupt data as a side observer. fatherboxx fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Jun 5, 2023 |
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fatherboxx posted:This is a very good advice for any topic and time regarding this war (but now especially) - unless you have a filtered stream of trusted sources, take a minute and double check any report for bias and plausibility. For good or ill, SA IS my filter. Everything is going to be mixed up in the fog of war for the next few months.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 18:31 |
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Ukrainian answer to BMPT Terminator, with spicy bricks of course https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1665772495608197121?t=xgGplb9E0hrKR-3dLURsQQ&s=19
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 18:39 |
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Well, watch something while waiting for the dust to settle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWKGYnO0Jf4
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 18:40 |
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https://twitter.com/Sino_Market/status/1665691135035994114 (verbatim from MFA release so more flattering of the Chinese position than it really is) That said: https://twitter.com/fbermingham/status/1665761591432716288 it's true that if China is not supplying Russia with arms now, then there is no need to move them out of that position e: a certain someone has popped out of the woodwork to really test that French-Chinese alignment: https://twitter.com/fbermingham/status/1665794204864335873 ronya fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Jun 5, 2023 |
# ? Jun 5, 2023 18:46 |
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Ukrainian forces have apparently seized control of the border town of Novaya Tavolzhanka, according to Russian officials. https://twitter.com/noelreports/status/1665782935931219968?s=61&t=V-HV35YWq0OSpug3yKk84g
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 19:54 |
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fatherboxx posted:This is a very good advice for any topic and time regarding this war (but now especially) - unless you have a filtered stream of trusted sources, take a minute and double check any report for bias and plausibility. ironically I'd say that 1) it's definitely not the most recorded war in history except maybe due to scale of the war and 2) it is unquestionably in the top two or three of the most effectively information blockaded wars since cellphones became ubiquitous. the degree to which both sides are effectively blockading information coming out is wild. Obviously it isn't completely effective, but the vast majority of the photos/videos coming out from either side are things that are deliberately cleared for release. As such, nearly the entire information space is shaped by one of the motivated, involved parties. both sides are very aware that taking and posting photos or videos leads to things exploding and there are very serious laws reflecting this, too.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 20:40 |
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Herstory Begins Now posted:As such, nearly the entire information space is shaped by one of the motivated, involved parties. This wasn't the case when there was urban combat and constant use of aviation, but now with most of the fighting done in areas without civilians, yeah, you see what combatants and the PR departments over them want you to see.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 20:47 |
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Antigravitas posted:I'm sure there is plenty of news of the same credibility of the BBC, but if you are looking for anything substantial you'll be waiting for a while. Neither side is going to be forthcoming with (truthful, comprehensive) information. In other words..... https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1665800958662549504
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 20:50 |
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https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/retired-raaf-fighter-jets-could-be-sent-to-ukraine-20230605-p5de0hquote:Australia, the US and Ukraine are discussing sending 41 Royal Australian Air Force F/A-18 Hornets to Kyiv helping fulfil part of President Volodymyr Zelensky’s request for fighter jets, rather than sending them to the scrapheap as planned. I think that would be a pretty good haul for Ukraine if they can get their hands on the hornets. They would hopefully still be in reasonable condition. Plus the USA would have hundreds more that might also be at the end of their life as well.
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# ? Jun 6, 2023 00:33 |
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Sir Lancelot posted:https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/retired-raaf-fighter-jets-could-be-sent-to-ukraine-20230605-p5de0h I don't know anything about aircraft logistics. But wouldn't the logistics of maintaining F18s be even more difficult for Ukraine than F16s?
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# ? Jun 6, 2023 00:54 |
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Sir Lancelot posted:https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/retired-raaf-fighter-jets-could-be-sent-to-ukraine-20230605-p5de0h Both the Dutch and Australia in the mix now for supplying fighters. Looks like MH17 might finally be catching up with Russia.
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# ? Jun 6, 2023 01:03 |
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I seem to recall that the F/A-18 Hornets require less maintenance than F-16s,though my memory could be wrong. One issue is that the US Hornets are apparently in pretty bad shape compared to the Australian ones. That is, the airframes themselves are worn harder.
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# ? Jun 6, 2023 01:13 |
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Australian retired F/A-18s are of such an old vintage that the USN doesn’t fly that type anymore at all.
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# ? Jun 6, 2023 01:19 |
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mlmp08 posted:Australian retired F/A-18s are of such an old vintage that the USN doesn’t fly that type anymore at all. I think they have a bunch at the boneyard in Tucson, Arizona. So maybe getting parts wouldn't be a big deal unless they need like brand new parts.
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# ? Jun 6, 2023 01:21 |
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Australia sending their old F/A-18s to Ukraine and the US ripping up their old airframes for the spare parts to accompany them would be a real win-win.
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# ? Jun 6, 2023 01:26 |
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mlmp08 posted:Australian retired F/A-18s are of such an old vintage that the USN doesn’t fly that type anymore at all. USMC is part of the USN, but yeah. C/D Hornets, not the Super Hornet, which is a substantially different airplane.
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# ? Jun 6, 2023 01:43 |
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madeintaipei posted:USMC is part of the USN, but yeah. C/D Hornets, not the Super Hornet, which is a substantially different airplane. Yeah, I only learned this year that the super hornet is like 30% bigger than the regular hornet
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# ? Jun 6, 2023 01:48 |
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tehinternet posted:Yeah, I only learned this year that the super hornet is like 30% bigger than the regular hornet It is? Oh, wow. I really do know jack poo poo about airframes.
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# ? Jun 6, 2023 02:10 |
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I mean they don’t call it the Normal Hornet.
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# ? Jun 6, 2023 02:23 |
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Sorry I only size my hornets in Starbucks units. Send them the Venti Hornets
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# ? Jun 6, 2023 02:31 |
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Ynglaur posted:It is? Oh, wow. I really do know jack poo poo about airframes. The Navy basically pretended to Congress that it was an upgrade package to get exactly that reaction and got a new plane out of it, all time procurement success.
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# ? Jun 6, 2023 03:00 |
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Nova Khakovka dam apparently is no more? https://twitter.com/UAControlMap/status/1665905312388337664?s=20 https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1665897509179236355?s=20 this seems like it would be very hard to fake so probably inclined to put this one in the 'happened' category https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1665905255509291008?s=20 Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Jun 6, 2023 |
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https://twitter.com/warinukraineua/status/1665897532419981315 https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/1665904696429518849 So Russia just destroyed the water supply for Crimea. That's not something you do if you intend to keep it.
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