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esperantinc
May 5, 2003

JERRY! HELLO!

Sash! posted:

They are in the sense that no one else owns the team. There's no main owner. The whole arrangement is strange.

To add: shareholders do get to vote for the president and board of directors, which is pretty much all you're getting when you own one share of any other company.

You can't sell Packers shares like you can with any other company though. All you can do is transfer them to family members.

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Robobot
Aug 21, 2018
And I doubt they are an actual share of ownership, so no dividends or anything. They’re basically just a really expensive small poster.

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.
Yeah, the "shares" are basically just a receipt for a donation you made to the team, like when we all donated to Lowtax that one time and got wacky badges under our avatars.

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

Spin off reveals Mae is a secret billionaire and bought them all for everyone

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

esperantinc posted:

You can't sell Packers shares like you can with any other company though. All you can do is transfer them to family members.
That's a damned good thing, too, 'cause somebody with the money could take the team private again.

Unless they're playing the Seahawks, I always loving cheer for Green Bay. The socialist NFL team. gently caress yes.

DrVenkman
Dec 28, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.
https://twitter.com/sageyoungest/status/1664677955727917062?t=4pXcC_2vgaKnv63CzivnZA&s=19

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

What did you say the strategy was?
Max cruising to pole by nearly a half second, oof

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Of all the pointless side plots that petered out without any significance, the one I'm wondering most about, even if just from a narrative-device standpoint, is Sam's restaurant. What purpose did that even serve? If they wanted to do restaurant scenes and such, they already had a restaurant-centered subplot. Sam's story involving the Nigerian team and the rich owner guy (not to mention Rebecca) were already there as centers-of-gravity for his character. The whole restaurant thing just sort of came and went without achieving much except introducing his dad which, while great, was a one-episode thing. What a weird waste

Tea Bone
Feb 18, 2011

I'm going for gasps.
I liked the final episode. It feels like it was written before even season 2 but they fumbled badly getting everything into place for it with weird pacing and b plots. If you watch the last episode in a vacuum and imagine they competently got everyone where they needed to be for it, it's not far off season 1 quality.

Watching this along side the final season of Barry highlights just how much they dropped the ball here (and conversely how well they handled Barry). Barry was still sticking to 30 minute episodes right to the end which kept it incredibly tight always leaving us wanting more, where as Ted was like 90% filler for most episodes. Also Barry had a ton of b plots and side character stories but everyone was engaging to watch and I never really minded when the focus was taken away from Barry himself.

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.

ilmucche posted:

Max cruising to pole by nearly a half second, oof

He was offside

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

:spooky:
Screaming is the only useful thing that we can do.

Game gets put on hold for groundskeepers to replace the net - injury time 2 minutes.

There would have been a riot when that injury time went up with the home team needing to score.

grobbo
May 29, 2014

quote:

With Nate, I agree that there are quite a few offscreen moments. From an acting point of view, I love working with Anthony Head. If we’d have got to do that “I’m quitting” scene, I’m sure we would’ve had a lot of fun with it. But you have to respect the fact that there’s also an efficiency to the storytelling in the way that they do it. It means that you can then save time for more unexpected moments like the footballers singing “So Long, Farewell.”

"It's good to skip major character moments, actually, because it means we had time to include that awkward song" is truly a brutal indictment.

Robobot
Aug 21, 2018

grobbo posted:

"It's good to skip major character moments, actually, because it means we had time to include that awkward song" is truly a brutal indictment.

I read that more as “Anthony Head isn’t a good enough actor to do those scenes, but he’s a good guy” personally. Why bring up the acting otherwise?

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

I didn't get that at all.

That has the smell of "I hate this, but can't say it" all over it. He's openly wishing he got to do that scene with Anthony Stewart Head.

Yannick_B
Oct 11, 2007
I've rewatched a whole bunch of season 1 and man, the difference is night and day.
The show's premise effectively dies as soon as Ted forgives Rebecca--it's of course what the characters would do, but they
weren't able to transform the show after that.

Phenotype
Jul 24, 2007

You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.



also ted and rebecca totally banged that night, they got wasted with beard and his girlfriend.

emanresu tnuocca
Sep 2, 2011

by Athanatos
You can't have a story with no drama or conflicts, the first season had the switcheroo as a plot device, Rebeca was the villain in a sense, beyond that once the show got famous for being that 'feel good show' it was decided that literally everyone in the show other than Rupert is just, well, a swell guy, and even Rupert is kind of a whanker dick womanizer but we've also seen that he has his moments, like killing the super-league, so... mmm yeay, on the final episode we discoer that Roy did grow but he's only 99% of the way there, I guess that's conflict.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


LividLiquid posted:

That's a damned good thing, too, 'cause somebody with the money could take the team private again.

Unless they're playing the Seahawks, I always loving cheer for Green Bay. The socialist NFL team. gently caress yes.

My dad used to be one of the lifelong fans who bought Manchester United shares, and was mighty pissed when a takeover forced everyone to give up their shares.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

MokBa posted:

Season 8 of Scrubs is loving great because it had a concentrated effort to return to the feel of seasons 1–3. Season 9 gets a bad rap (it only existed because Bill Lawrence wanted the crew to keep their jobs) but the new cast was pretty solid and by the end it had found its footing.

Ted Lasso would've been significantly better and more cohesive if Lawrence had stayed on.

Lawrence even admitted season 9 taking so long to get its footing was a bit his fault and a bit studio interference. Studio wanted the first 6 scripts before they would greenlight the season and he didn't fight them on it. Once they were filmed and they could see which actors worked best with each other the wrote the back half taking advantage of that.

sporkstand
Jun 15, 2021
Was Zava based on any actual real-life footballer?

emanresu tnuocca
Sep 2, 2011

by Athanatos

sporkstand posted:

Was Zava based on any actual real-life footballer?

Yes, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, who happened to retire from professional football yesterday at the age of 41.

Panic! At The Tesco
Aug 19, 2005

FART


Zlatan: "Only God knows who will go through."
Reporter: "It's hard to ask him."
Zlatan: "You're talking to him."

Cpt. Mahatma Gandhi
Mar 26, 2005

When my non-football acquainted friends & relatives as that inevitable "who is Zava based on?" question, I always show them this vid, which is about the most perfect representation of the inspiration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mxrVrU724k

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"
"When you buy me, you are buying a Ferrari. If you drive a Ferrari you put premium petrol in the tank, you hit the motorway and you step on the gas. [Pep] Guardiola filled up with diesel and took a spin in the countryside. He should have bought a Fiat."

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

Yannick_B posted:

I've rewatched a whole bunch of season 1 and man, the difference is night and day.
The show's premise effectively dies as soon as Ted forgives Rebecca--it's of course what the characters would do, but they
weren't able to transform the show after that.

It’s pretty loving weird they couldn’t recognize how saccharine it became with literally 0 conflict. I have never seen a show fall off like this without a writers strike or someone dying

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Remember when Jamie was an rear end in a top hat

MokBa
Jun 8, 2006

If you see something suspicious, bomb it!

I knew season three was a bit doomed when Zava just left without incident. Felt like his character was going to end up bringing some fun conflict into the show but nope. Everyone loved him then he quit to grow a giant avocado and they were all great at soccer without him anyway. Served no purpose to the plot or arcs or themes or anything.

Like you need conflict for a story. That's what makes them stories. Nate was kind of an antagonist for half an episode maybe despite that turn being a huge part of season two. Rupert still sucks but nothing he does actually challenges or hurts the characters in any way — he's just a douche in what could be an entirely isolated story from anything Richmond (or even Nate!) is dealing with.

I liked the last couple episodes more than most because the characters and the actors are endearing, but watching millionaires be friends isn't any kind of story.

Anyway, everyone should watch Bill Lawrence's new show, Shrinking. It also turns into a neighborhood comedy about upper middle class people but it has genuine emotion and edge to it in a way that Ted Lasso completely lost. (And it's very nice to see modern Harrison Ford actually give a poo poo in something.)

fullroundaction
Apr 20, 2007

Drink beer every day

Data Graham posted:

Remember when Jamie was an rear end in a top hat

It wasn't his fault it was because of his dad. And now his dad's not even an rear end in a top hat.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Data Graham posted:

Remember when Jamie was an rear end in a top hat

Jamie becoming not an rear end in a top hat is one of the things the show did really well, especially the growth of his friendship with Roy and increased maturity and self-reflection in dealing with Keeley.

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

MokBa posted:

I knew season three was a bit doomed when Zava just left without incident. Felt like his character was going to end up bringing some fun conflict into the show but nope. Everyone loved him then he quit to grow a giant avocado and they were all great at soccer without him anyway. Served no purpose to the plot or arcs or themes or anything.

Like you need conflict for a story. That's what makes them stories. Nate was kind of an antagonist for half an episode maybe despite that turn being a huge part of season two. Rupert still sucks but nothing he does actually challenges or hurts the characters in any way — he's just a douche in what could be an entirely isolated story from anything Richmond (or even Nate!) is dealing with.
Him leaving was the conflict, and Total Football and Jamie learning to be selfless were the resolution.

Y'know. On paper.

Gods, what a disappointing season. I really thought they'd stick the landing.

Yannick_B
Oct 11, 2007

Data Graham posted:

Remember when Jamie was an rear end in a top hat

I did ! I just watched it and it was great. He grew up a bit and then was yanked off the team by Rebecca and thought it was Ted's fault. A great dramatic move that affected every character involved!

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
They point to Keeley over and over this season as vaguely PR for the individual players/also a dating app or something/also marketing for the team and it all adds up to I think she's Vincent Adultman but she doesn't know it. Everyday she goes to work and does a business and Rebecca pats her on the head and pays her employees.

emanresu tnuocca
Sep 2, 2011

by Athanatos
but that's kind of the life of a celebrity past model whose current claim to fame is her various romcom tabloid filling relationships, she gets paid to be in places and talk to people, that's really one of the more realistic parts of the show.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
It felt like they were afraid to have Nate be an antagonist. So they'd have him say something bad about Richmond and then immediately see an article about Ted being nice and then feel bad about it. Then they tried to make Rupert be an antagonist, but he ended up being a cartoon character. Then they made that therapist guy be an antagonist for no reason. Seems like the writers were afraid to make tough choices for this season and always just left themselves an out for every big decision.

Robobot
Aug 21, 2018
The show started losing its way as soon as it stopped whole sale ripping off Major League. They had one season of worthwhile story to tell and then spun their wheels with saccharine swill. Not to mention getting super preachy about their swill this last season.

The juxtaposition of Rebecca and Ted’s stories of their parents during the funeral followed immediately by them all singing a group song was where it totally came apart for me. Finding your dad’s body after he took his own life is NOT the same as someone staying with a cheater. Like, what the hell?

CatstropheWaitress
Nov 26, 2017

grobbo posted:

"It's good to skip major character moments, actually, because it means we had time to include that awkward song" is truly a brutal indictment.

This is loving hilarious. The episode run times were as long as they've ever been and it's not like Apple wasn't going to give them whatever time they asked for. And the team singing Farewell isn't even that memorable, it comes out of nowhere with no build up. We felt "lol sports guys singing a showtune was way more important to shoot than pivotal scenes of a main protagonist."

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

Do you think Nate had to give back that car?

Tom Tucker
Jul 19, 2003

I want to warn you fellers
And tell you one by one
What makes a gallows rope to swing
A woman and a gun

So was there really a scene where a guy was trying to pick a picture to use on Bantr, the dating app whose entire point is that there are no pictures on it to allow Rebecca and Sam to You’ve Got Mail?

I mean the show invented the app itself how do you mess that up

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



The amount of apps that change their entire core to become just a generic clone makes that feel fine. OKCupid is now basically Tinder with all of its original functionality essentially stripped.

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CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.
Ugh, OKCupid. I tried signing back up for it after having been gone for like ten years and yeah. Deleted my account again fifteen minutes later.

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