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McCloud posted:Hobie is the best Spider-being. I crowed when Jessica told him, "Hobie, you're not helping," and he snapped back, "Good." And that smirk as everyone else was reacting was just fantastic. Such an amazingly beautiful and intricately made flick. So many of the shots I just wanted to pause and admire like a painting, because that's what so many of the frames were, fine art. The animators need to be doing victory laps 24/7 after turning this out. I loved what they did with the first movie, but this one is just so far beyond that it's hard to put it into words. (As for the sound thing, back when my brother and I saw the Blade Runner sequel they had it jacked so loud that during the scene with the spinner in the water the music was like a loving jackhammer. I complained about it and the manager said that's how they were required to set the dials. It was a painful experience. I'm thinking the next time I go to a theater for a blockbuster it's going to behoove me to sit as far away from the loving speakers as possible.) kazmeyer fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Jun 6, 2023 |
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I just got done watching Across the Spider-Verse and I think it might be my favorite superhero movie. Like, ever. What the hell, that was just so insanely good. I can't count how many times it just made me feel so much. So much heart and emotion. Crazy s-tier primo capeshit.
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kazmeyer posted:I crowed when Jessica told him, "Hobie, you're not helping," and he snapped back, "Good." And that smirk as everyone else was reacting was just fantastic. His comment about the plot hole being a metaphor for capitalism had me cackling. Man just oozed style. The hero we need but dont deserve
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Jun 6, 2023 06:16
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By the way, it's right at the start of the movie so I feel like it's not fresh in anyone's mind by the end, but I loved the design and animation of renaissance vulture. The way they blended his design with the other characters and Gwen's world was incredibly cool and a great tone setter.
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Jun 6, 2023 07:34
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Talking about the score again: In the beginning with the first spot fight, they start mixing goose honks in with the record scratching during that segment, fantastic.
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The opening sequence is astounding. The movie wastes no time in getting down to business and having every moment pull at least triple duty. It's an amazing action set piece. It's an effective prologue to set up the fundamental conflicts for Gwen. It also is cleverly meta. The statue that is cut open to reveal a bunch of smaller versions of the statue is so brilliant in a Spider-Man story that is going to be broken open to reveal a bunch of different Spider-Man stories inside. More of a commentary on what is art, but also still art, indeed.
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Jun 6, 2023 11:47
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I was really keeping an eye out for Superior during the Spider-person scenes but didnt see him.
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Jun 6, 2023 13:07
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a joke I liked is when Jessica Drew is first escorting Miles into spider city, she says something about the spot and asks if anyone has jokes. Dozens of Spider people immediately start cracking jokes.
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Darko posted:XMen is one of the main inventors of the whole analogy since the whole comic was about Civil Rights and the analogy gradually shifts over time to who the main focus of civil rights is at the time. Xmen is much more overt but superhero comics have a very very long history of being queer coded, like just about since they were invented.
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It's pretty small and definitely corny but I really love that joke in Hobie's introduction about hating the AM and the PM (iirc a Thatcher pic appeared on.screen for a frame). Just a clever bit of wordplay that keeps popping back into my head
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keet posted:The way Miles got jumped in the 42verse makes me think the whole evil Miles thing is a fakeout, since neither Miles or his uncle actually SAY anything incriminating or hurt him besides the knockout (the movie frames the whole thing as very grim, yes) it felt more like knocking someone out to interrogate them cause what are they supposed to think when an obviously 'fake' Miles double rolls up on em? I think it'll end up being a universe where Miles just turned out as more of an Batman/Punisher antihero. mystes posted:I think that's very likely and it would especially make sense if the idea is for Across the Spider-Verse to set up the idea of predestination in a way where we're supposed to assume that the Prowler has to be evil and then have the next movie reject that While I don't think there are many people who haven't seen the movie this deep into the thread, I'll warn of discussions for the very end of the movie. I think what they're doing is showing not that Miles is inevitably heroic, but that he's always, as Gwen says, "amazing." This is what Miles becomes in a world that doesn't have Spider-Man. Thing is: Now this world DOES have Spider-Man. So Miles can be inspired all over again. Something I'm going back and forth on is if I want to see the different MIleses pop up to prove to 2099 that he belongs, or whether this Miles simply does that on his own. Come to think of it, I'd love to see a Miles from a world where Peter Parker is Spider-Man and Miles is never bit. Does he become a super-scientist or something? Talorat posted:By the way, it's right at the start of the movie so I feel like it's not fresh in anyone's mind by the end, but I loved the design and animation of renaissance vulture. The way they blended his design with the other characters and Gwen's world was incredibly cool and a great tone setter. I thought back to this guy constantly throughout the movie. I was hoping to hop into the Leonardo Da Vinci notebook universe, but I understand why we never saw it again. I mean, how many ideas would really come out of that?
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ImpAtom posted:It is absolutely absurd how much the Spiderverse films style (quite literally) over pretty much every other 3D movie out there. It's genuinely embarassing to see the previews for Elemental and go "oh yeah same basic art style of bland nothingness" and then go directly in the opening sequence which is some of the most jaw-dropping stunningly beautiful animation I can recall seeing. same with this and Puss in Boots. compared to soulless husks like The Little Mermaid live action and most of the recent marvel movies which other than 1 or 2, were really weak. There's so much soul and emotion in this freaking animated cat and swinging spider-people
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Was Alt-Miles also voiced by Shameik Moore?
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DC Murderverse posted:Was Alt-Miles also voiced by Shameik Moore? it was Moore Shameik, half the production time on the film was spent trying to track someone with the name down. You gotta hand it to ‘em, Lord and Miller know what they’re doing
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Having Alt-Miles be a villain may also reinforce that a Captain should not die in Miles case as a cannon event because his positive influence was important in shaping Mile’s future.
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DC Murderverse posted:Was Alt-Miles also voiced by Shameik Moore? Different actor, Jharrel Jerome.
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https://twitter.com/discussingfilm/status/1666140189733814272?s=46&t=8qKeRz1MPwpnqaU9WYBJgg
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checkplease posted:Philip Lord talked about the sound issue. Basically the way it is mixed or compressed required theaters to turn volume up to 7 (and even made stickers for projectionist to do this), but I guess not every place wants to turn up theater volume. I felt weirdly responsible.
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"Projectionist" was part of my duties as a Floor Team Leader when I worked at Cineplex, and even back then (six or seven years ago), all of the projectors were digital. On a night where everything was working, I didn't have to be up there at all.* Sometimes on Saturdays I had to go up and press play for a DVD that was plugged into the projector's HDMI port. There were two dusty old analog projectors in the corner and they always made me feel like I missed out on something special when I saw them. *This did not stop me from watching Mad Max: Fury Road from the booth no less than nine times
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Pigma_Micron posted:I thought back to this guy constantly throughout the movie. I was hoping to hop into the Leonardo Da Vinci notebook universe, but I understand why we never saw it again. I mean, how many ideas would really come out of that? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.H.I.E.L.D._(2010_series)
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LividLiquid posted:There aren't projectionists. That job died a long time ago. Three generations of film projectionists in my family and the job died on my watch. That’s a cool family history. Hmm what’s the proper term now then, digital switch pusher?
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Bleck posted:There were two dusty old analog projectors in the corner and they always made me feel like I missed out on something special when I saw them. Stressful as gently caress.
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Spider-verse was better on second viewing. Better theater and sound, made a difference. People seemed engaged with it and enjoyed the movie plus theater was full. Good sign I hope for a strong second week. I think this is going to define “Spider-man” and what it entails moving forward.
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No, that's overrating it highly.
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Saw it a second time with a friend this evening and WOW my sound mixing was 100% better haha I could hear almost ALL of Hobie’s dialogue loud and clear It’s still an incredible film, at least 8.5/10, and the visuals simply are the best ever, but there were a couple moments and sequences I thought could be shorter/excised and the film might be a LIL better for it. Still, I’ll probably see it at least once more in theaters. My friend also didn’t know it was part 1 of 2 and about two minutes before it ended whispered to me “this seems like a lot to resolve…” I didn’t say anything but was internally chuckling.
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Holy poo poo. Saying lightning struck twice almost seems like underselling it, I can't believe how they were able to top themselves with animation and ideas while keeping so much of the heart. Might catch up the thread and post more, right now I'm just kind of awestruck.
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I don't think I'm imagining things when I think Hobie looks like an indie 'zine brought to life
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I should really watch the first one again. I just heard someone say "remember when miles got bitten by the spider in the first movie, and it glitched out right before? huh, wasn't that WEIRD?!" and man that's so true, I completely forgot about that, and I'm sure there's tons of other little foreshadowing tidbits.
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Guy A. Person posted:Holy poo poo. For me it was like the entirety of Across the Spider-Verse hit like the what's up danger scene from the first film, lol. I was on an insane high the whole time really. It's just so well made in every aspect that I find meaningfully affecting; the visuals, the characters, the music, the story, the performances. Perfect. Just absolute top tier movie making, not just capeshit, but movies in general. I mean gently caress, at the end when Miles glitched out in what he thought was his universe, that feeling I got when that happened is such a rare thing. I'm getting goosebumps typing this out thinking about it lol. teagone fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Jun 7, 2023 |
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Gnome de plume posted:I don't think I'm imagining things when I think Hobie looks like an indie 'zine brought to life that was 100% the look and it was incredibly well done
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Captain Invictus posted:I should really watch the first one again. I just heard someone say "remember when miles got bitten by the spider in the first movie, and it glitched out right before? huh, wasn't that WEIRD?!" and man that's so true, I completely forgot about that, and I'm sure there's tons of other little foreshadowing tidbits. I’m interested to see now we’re in universe 42, who made the spider? It was Norman Osbourne in the ultimate universe I believe.
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One small thing I love in something they set up for stakes is one character specifically said they have two days until Jefferson dies to Spot. It seemed like a huge amount of time when I was thinking “they’re gonna fit two days into the next thirty minutes?”, but it’s a great set-up for Beyond. A hard time limit to save Miles, to save Jefferson, to save everyone. Having that laid out in advance is just kind of nice to have.
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Nerdietalk posted:One small thing I love in something they set up for stakes is one character specifically said they have two days until Jefferson dies to Spot. It seemed like a huge amount of time when I was thinking “they’re gonna fit two days into the next thirty minutes?”, but it’s a great set-up for Beyond. A hard time limit to save Miles, to save Jefferson, to save everyone. Having that laid out in advance is just kind of nice to have. Probably more coincidence than anything but, two days was also the timeframe of the original film, how long it took miles to gain enough confidence in himself to save the day.
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I kept waiting for that shoe to drop for so long I was second guessing myself. The machine said it was sending him to earth 42, which was of course the spiders home world, not Miles's. But they really dragged the reveal out lol
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Captain Invictus posted:I should really watch the first one again. I just heard someone say "remember when miles got bitten by the spider in the first movie, and it glitched out right before? huh, wasn't that WEIRD?!" and man that's so true, I completely forgot about that, and I'm sure there's tons of other little foreshadowing tidbits. gently caress how did I not catch that?
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massive spider posted:I’m interested to see now we’re in universe 42, who made the spider? It was Norman Osbourne in the ultimate universe I believe. Rule of narrative conservation suggests it could be universe-42 Spot...
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I laughed way too hard when Spot screamed “You threw a bagel at me!” I’m pretty sure he admits to being the one (or at least his lab being the one) that created the spider. So, there may have already been some interdimentional communication between the labs of Earth 42 and Earth-1610.
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