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zoux posted:Frank Langella is great in it Langella is great, and honestly I don't mind Beymer, either; his portrayal of "tired of it all, especially of what other people want him to be" works for me. It's just that later arcs, in comparison, put more emphasis on characters we know already or will see again.
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"Off the hook, after all." That landed pretty well if I'm being honest.
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Atlas Hugged posted:I always wonder with retro watches like this if the viewer (me in this case) is going to land the hammer on the head of some controversial nail or in-joke that fans have discussed to death for ages. I'm glad in this case, it's an in-joke and not some highly controversial point about the subtle portrayal of the characters. You will and you will find that everyone here is quite happy to relitigate whatever issue you raise ad nauseam. Oh and by the way, transporters are suicide booths.
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Keiko scolding O'Brien for racism and then doing a racism herself is loving great writing. Also my wife thinks O'Brien looks like Chandler. I can see it.
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Atlas Hugged posted:Also, when they took the sticks out, I thought for sure they'd be an integral part of playing the game, for like making barriers, attacking enemies, or moving pieces chopstick style. They're for sounding, obviously.
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Dr Bashir I Presume is an interesting one because it says a lot about Star Fleet that Julian is so afraid that they will find out that he is secretly south-Asian
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Starfleet: "You're not allowed to genetically engineer your kids." Bashir's dad: 
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Beeftweeter posted:perhaps today is a good day to dine This. It's this one. A+ I'm thinking this for the tagline of a Klingon-themed but Ferengi-owned Applebee's type chain.
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On another note, I think a strong indicator of classic Trek's early wonkiness at least in TNG comes in Tasha Yar's ridiculously edgy backstory, growing up on a shithole moon with rampant crime otherwise and explicit mentions of (sensitive subject)sexual assault. It was such a clash with the tone of the rest of the show.
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yeah sheer loving hubris is a lot less offputting and jarring than tasha backstory blurb.
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Did Quark face literally no consequences at the end of "Invasive Procedures"? Everyone made such a big deal about him having gone too far that time, but the episode just sort of ends. Starfleet justice is practically incoherent. Did they just like let the Trill go? The episode just kind of ended.
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A new Star Trek strategy game was announced, Star Trek Infinite. It's from Paradox that makes great strategy games. From the teaser it looks like at minimum you will get to choose between Federation, Romulan, Cardassian, and Klingon factions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3cM3Rsh7lQ
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You can tell this show is fantasy because as soon as a villain is confronted with their own lies or evidence of wrongdoing, they immediately backdown even if they don't admit guilt. Gul Dukat leaves DS9 when his conspiracy around Rugal is revealed. Jaro immediately caves when Kira presents the log with the Cardassian thumbprint. I know they have to wrap the episodes up at the 45 minute mark, but it often comes across as cheap and unsatisfactory, plus a little naive. Like I don't expect the Federation to behave like Trump, but a Bajoran supremacist who just attempted a coup would probably put up more of a stink about "false news" and "Federation conspiracies" but it appears that the character never shows up again so it's just neatly resolved. The Bajorans who really bought into the Circle's narrative aren't suddenly going to reflect on how they were easily misled and used by the Cardassians anymore than your average Republican is going to admit that Trump attempted a coup on January 6th.
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FlamingLiberal posted:A new Star Trek strategy game was announced, Star Trek Infinite. It's from Paradox that makes great strategy games.
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Knormal posted:Opened the link, saw the Borg cube, sighed. To be fair the borg would fit the enemy super weapon kind of thing that’s in Stellaris pretty well.
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Atlas Hugged posted:You can tell this show is fantasy because as soon as a villain is confronted with their own lies or evidence of wrongdoing, they immediately backdown even if they don't admit guilt. I've been re-watching the x-files and I chuckle every time they talk about the syndicate fearing exposure. An entire generation of tv writers with Watergate brain.
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I hope they get the four actors from the end of that trailer back to do voices because Carolyn Seymour was good in "Face of the Enemy"
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Junkball’s got a new video on the Titan A today, some literal lol moments
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zoux posted:Junkball’s got a new video on the Titan A today, some literal lol moments Link that poo poo
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Woop! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DflErrGcNI
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"Let's set the stage for the Enterprise-G, or rather the Titan-A. Here's a recap of how we got here. Picard season one happened. Season two happened. Then season 3 begins with Picard receiving an urgent message" Perfect summary, lmao.
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cenotaph posted:I've been re-watching the x-files and I chuckle every time they talk about the syndicate fearing exposure. An entire generation of tv writers with Watergate brain. Welcome to the only game in town.
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MillennialVulcan posted:"Let's set the stage for the Enterprise-G, or rather the Titan-A. Here's a recap of how we got here. Picard season one happened. Season two happened. Then season 3 begins with Picard receiving an urgent message" Would have been better if it was "Season 1 didn't happen. Then Season 2 didn't happen. Then Season 3 beings..."
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cenotaph posted:I've been re-watching the x-files and I chuckle every time they talk about the syndicate fearing exposure. An entire generation of tv writers with Watergate brain. It's internally consistent with UFO lore though. No need to cover poo poo up if you don't fear exposure. Maybe aliens are shy or whatever.
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Nessus posted:When the X-Files began, the Watergate scandal was less than twenty years ago. We are further away from the X-Files' first episode than that episode was from Nixon's resignation. Yeah but they lived through Reagan proving nothing mattered and still kept beating that drum.
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I’ve never heard of Junkball before and just subscribed. Pretty fantastic channel; thanks!
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Atlas Hugged posted:You can tell this show is fantasy because as soon as a villain is confronted with their own lies or evidence of wrongdoing, they immediately backdown even if they don't admit guilt. You're not wrong, but you do need to make some allowances for anything made before 2016. I mean that was the way they resolved plots in pretty much everything back then, because it still seemed like a safe assumption that people would actually care. And to some extent I do think an actual societal change happened on a fundamental level. "The Drumhead" from TNG has probably suffered even worse in this regard. At least DS9 has the advantage of letting a lot of the villains return and have a continued arc instead of just going away forever, which makes it somewhat more realistic. Anyone who doesn't literally die in a DBZ space magic battle usually isn't truly defeated. cenotaph posted:Yeah but they lived through Reagan proving nothing mattered and still kept beating that drum. Nothing truly comes out of nowhere, of course. But I don't think you can underestimate how much Fox News broke people's brains. (Combined with 9/11, of course.) Sir Lemming fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Jun 9, 2023 |
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Sir Lemming posted:You're not wrong, but you do need to make some allowances for anything made before 2016. I mean that was the way they resolved plots in pretty much everything back then, because it still seemed like a safe assumption that people would actually care. And to some extent I do think an actual societal change happened on a fundamental level. "The Drumhead" from TNG has probably suffered even worse in this regard. At least DS9 has the advantage of letting a lot of the villains return and have a continued arc instead of just going away forever, which makes it somewhat more realistic. Anyone who doesn't literally die in a DBZ space magic battle usually isn't truly defeated. Oh for sure. It's really just an observation, not a criticism.
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It's amazing how much the First Duty is the prisoners dilemma for an hour.
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Also Bajorans aren't human and live in a completely different culture with different responses to things, she obviously they're going to react differently.
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nine-gear crow posted:Would have been better if it was "Season 1 didn't happen. Then Season 2 didn't happen. Then Season 3 beings..." would've been better if Patrick Stewart decided to do literally anything else and they just couldn't make Picard
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Should have just not involved Stewart and made Picard about the rest of the cast trying to locate him for 3 seasons, and then in the finale reveal that he’s been dead for ages and/or got his soul spliced into a new cast member.
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FlamingLiberal posted:A new Star Trek strategy game was announced, Star Trek Infinite. It's from Paradox that makes great strategy games. Oh yes, I'm in for this The Star Trek mod for Stellaris was really cool, but the mechanics weren't quite Trek-y enough, so if this can follow through, it'll be my perfect "lost six hours somehow" game
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*Taps the "classic" part of the thread title*
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HD DAD posted:Should have just not involved Stewart and made Picard about the rest of the cast trying to locate him for 3 seasons, and then in the finale reveal that he’s been dead for ages and/or got his soul spliced into a new cast member.
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HD DAD posted:Should have just not involved Stewart and made Picard about the rest of the cast trying to locate him for 3 seasons, and then in the finale reveal that he’s been dead for ages and/or got his soul spliced into a new cast member. I mean when they killed Picard to put him into a robot, I thought that was an excuse to recast him as a sexy young hot guy. Instead they just made the most useless robot in the history of robotics.
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Surely Morn snoring while drunk counts as a spoken line of dialog.
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HD DAD posted:Should have just not involved Stewart and made Picard about the rest of the cast trying to locate him for 3 seasons, and then in the finale reveal that he’s been dead for ages and/or got his soul spliced into a new cast member. *Tom Hardy steps out of the shadows* time to do some f*cking and fighting
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HD DAD posted:Should have just not involved Stewart and made Picard about the rest of the cast trying to locate him for 3 seasons, and then in the finale reveal that he’s been dead for ages and/or got his soul spliced into a new cast member. Whenever Picard is not on screen everyone should be asking "where is Picard"
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Tunicate posted:Whenever Picard is not on screen everyone should be asking "where is Picard" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picardy
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