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Iko Uwais should still be impaling dudes on broken doors instead of hanging out with these Hollywood has-beens. gently caress it, conjure up a John Wick spinoff with him it. It'd be a cinch since he'd hardly need any dialogue since Wick sure as hell didn't in the last movie.
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duz posted:Whatever happened to the Expenda-girls spinoff? Got dropped last year because they apparently had problems trying to come up with a story to explain why the team would be all women (?!) and instead they're saying they'll just get more women in the main series.
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muscles like this! posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhlaBO-SwVE I don't remember much about part 3, but I do remember there was explicitly a pass the baton to a younger generation theme. No, it didn't really make much sense.
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The Saddest Rhino posted:Is the mermaid movie actually bombing outside China? Zero_Grade fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Jun 8, 2023 |
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MrBling posted:Got dropped last year because they apparently had problems trying to come up with a story to explain why the team would be all women (?!) and instead they're saying they'll just get more women in the main series. Wasn’t the story at one time going to be that they all were going undercover as prostitutes to get the bad guy? Or was that some other female action star vehicle that got canned?
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Lmaooo just don't address it. I don't recall a line from the expendables explaining why they were all men. poo poo, more pertinently, I don't recall a line like that from the Ghostbusters reboot.
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*bunch of writers in an office late at night, sleeves rolled up, chainsmoking and running hands through their sweaty hair* gently caress! I don't know, something about their periods? This is impossible!
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I finally realise why the Sex And The City movies never worked for me - they never explained why they were women
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A female killer squad whose menstrual cycles all sync up kinda sounds like an idea Tarantino would find cool tho
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Zero_Grade posted:a budget of $250m (lol) How the gently caress is this even possible? The CGI in that movie looks like utter GARBAGE. Is Hollywood just a massive embezzlement scam now? How can more and more money be spent on movies that keep looking worse and worse?
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AceOfFlames posted:Is Hollywood just a massive embezzlement scam now? How can more and more money be spent on movies that keep looking worse and worse?
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Failed Imagineer posted:A female killer squad whose menstrual cycles all sync up kinda sounds like an idea Tarantino would find cool tho This is like, a half step away from being a Metal Gear Solid mini boss team
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This isn’t a certainty, but Indy 5 may open lower than Crystal Skull did https://twitter.com/thr/status/1666841911871586305?s=46&t=BHs6Pl38GJXGN2Y4xeriNA Crystal Skull made $100 million opening weekend
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1. How do they "track" expected opening weekend revenue? 2. Why is it that the last half-dozen times I've clicked a link to a tweet about a movie's release, the first reply is something to the effect of "Go woke go broke?" I think there must be a type of Twitter poster who reflexively says this about literally every movie.
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It’s too bad Shia burned things by crapping on the last movie, Mutt should have been a character they kept around
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The right really wants GWGB to be a thing
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Professor Shark posted:It’s too bad Shia burned things by crapping on the last movie, Mutt should have been a character they kept around
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Halloween Jack posted:2. Why is it that the last half-dozen times I've clicked a link to a tweet about a movie's release, the first reply is something to the effect of "Go woke go broke?" Welcome to Elon's brilliant Blue check system
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Halloween Jack posted:1. How do they "track" expected opening weekend revenue? If you repeat it for every single thing that comes out and prominently features women or people of color existing and having lines of dialogue, eventually you’ll technically be right about one or two of them for a completely incorrect reason.
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The movie is absolutely not going to make its $300m budget back, and I'm not sure how Disney ever expected it would. I would love to see more well-told stories with that character in that universe that I adore, but I would rather they just let the property die than get a bunch of terrible lowest-common-denominator Content slop until I die. Maybe if we're lucky, they'll stop being precious about the license and we can at least get some decent spinoff media created by people who are passionate about it every once in a while. Does that new video game we haven't heard anything about in like two years have any chance of being good, assuming it comes out?
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This is the best thing that’s gonna come out of the new movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn53dcqRP2k
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feedmyleg posted:I would love to see more well-told stories with that character in that universe that I adore, but I would rather they just let the property die than get a bunch of terrible lowest-common-denominator Content slop until I die. Maybe if we're lucky, they'll stop being precious about the license and we can at least get some decent spinoff media created by people who are passionate about it every once in a while. Does that new video game we haven't heard anything about in like two years have any chance of being good, assuming it comes out? This may not be the case any more (though I suspect it's probably accurate) but the market for Indy spinoffs has always been much lower than Star Wars spinoffs, to the point that when Lucasfilm gave Dark Horse the Star Wars comic license in 1991, one of their conditions was that Dark Horse had to not only take the Indy license also (which they didn't want), but actually put out an Indy comic. I think their Indy line ran for two years and was canceled for low sales, in contrast to the Star Wars line that was one of Dark Horse's consistent moneymakers up until Disney took the license from them. When Crystal Skull came out Dark Horse put out a really bad and heavily abridged adaptation, plus an original 1930s-set comic that no one read, and that was it.
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AceOfFlames posted:How the gently caress is this even possible? The CGI in that movie looks like utter GARBAGE. Is Hollywood just a massive embezzlement scam now? How can more and more money be spent on movies that keep looking worse and worse? Well I have a theory just based on some observations and conversations with people who did this work: The VFX industry is horrible to work in now (it was always "bad" but you got paid a lot and could take big chunks of time off occasionally) but now there's garbage pay, unreasonable deadlines, and poo poo working conditions. So what happens is that these companies can charge a lot and then use their bumper crop of new VFX employees to do the work badly. Then most of their employees quit. Hire new employees, churn 'em and burn 'em because it's a cool job and people want to do it. Disney has nobody else to work with because they dug their own grave with their working conditions and demands - only the desperate or amoral bid for them now. (or if they use a big effect house, the senior employees are not as subject to this treatement) I know 3 VFX people who have all left the industry in the past 5 years. Two of them were around 20 year vets. All of them are a lot happier and healthier now. It's why movies from 2013 had better VFX than now. The people doing them were actually better artistically. The computers and tools may have improved but the actual hands guiding them are substantially worse or just not given enough time to excel.
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Oh they actually stuck with "Dial of Destiny"
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Chairman Capone posted:When Crystal Skull came out Dark Horse put out a really bad and heavily abridged adaptation, plus an original 1930s-set comic that no one read, and that was it. True it's never been as popular, but I would think it's at least as popular as the Alien universe and that has constant spinoffs—and many of them apparently quite good, like the TTRPG supplements. Hell, even Blade Runner got a new TTRPG, 3 different comics, an anime, and is getting a live-action show all in the past few years. All after a box-office failure of a modern sequel. As for those comics, Indiana Jones Adventures was really well done and a ton of fun—exactly what a good Indy spinoff should be in my mind, if a bit slight. Sure, the fact that it could only apparently support 2 volumes isn't a great sign, but I also think they were poorly marketed and came out at just the wrong time. My dream would be to have something like The Batman Animated Series done for Indy, just episodic adventures that took inspiration from 30s adventure fiction and that Fleischer Brothers Superman and such, but I don't think the market would bear that sort of thing these days. Doing an animated series for Disney+ that goes for the same audience as, say, Duck Tales would seem like a better fit in my mind than comics or books or a more serious show or whatnot. It is pretty perfect for video games. If this giant AAA game doesn't go over well, maybe they'll let someone make a retro point-and-click adventure with it or something.
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feedmyleg posted:The movie is absolutely not going to make its $300m budget back, and I'm not sure how Disney ever expected it would. It’s being made by Machinegames so, maybe? The first two Wolfensteins they made were good, but The New Colossus definitely showed diminishing returns.
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Indiana Jones was already a nostalgia IP for old adventure serials, so it’s not surprising that people aren’t excited about the second order nostalgia from a long-delayed sequel to an ancient franchise.
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Raiders is as distant from the 40's pulp serials it was inspired by as we in the present day are from Raiders. We've entered recursive nostalgia territory, where people ape crap from their childhood that was itself aping crap from its creators' childhood, it's like an M C Escher painting
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Well I have a theory just based on some observations and conversations with people who did this work:
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Failed Imagineer posted:A female killer squad whose menstrual cycles all sync up kinda sounds like an idea Tarantino would find cool tho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ThpbczVe44
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Asterite34 posted:Raiders is as distant from the 40's pulp serials it was inspired by as we in the present day are from Raiders. We've entered recursive nostalgia territory, where people ape crap from their childhood that was itself aping crap from its creators' childhood, it's like an M C Escher painting man who gives a single loving poo poo, I just want to see an actual adventure movie that isn’t just another loving marvel
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FlamingLiberal posted:This isn’t a certainty, but Indy 5 may open lower than Crystal Skull did They really should have just reintroduced Short Round.
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Simplex posted:I don't remember much about part 3, but I do remember there was explicitly a pass the baton to a younger generation theme. No, it didn't really make much sense. Number 3 was extremely bad. Like, genuinely loving terrible and pleasing no one. Banderas nearly saves bits of it via sheer enthusiasm and Snipes via weirdness, but it's bad. Every element of it is so completely free of style, flair or talented execution. Even the action isn't great. 87 Eleven are doing their best but you kind of get bored around the 80th wave of identical masked dudes in a grey battleground. Cool little bits, like Ronda's fights (which are surprisingly good) and Statham/Snipes knifing dudes, just blend in with whole platoons dropping dead in impressively forgettable ways. In answer to your question, yes, there was a 'younger generation' and they sucked, their introductions sucked and none of them got to do anything cool. Glen Powell is somehow boring in it. Expendables 3 is impressive for setting a very low bar for itself and still failing to clear it. It's very fitting that it came out the same year as The Raid 2 and the first John Wick. AceOfFlames posted:How the gently caress is this even possible? The CGI in that movie looks like utter GARBAGE. Is Hollywood just a massive embezzlement scam now? How can more and more money be spent on movies that keep looking worse and worse? Along those lines, all the Pixar movies have extremely round budgets of 200 million. I have a feeling that a lot of other costs (CGI RnD, for instance) get rolled into those budgets simply because they know they'll make a decent amount of money, with very few exceptions. Megaman's Jockstrap posted:It's why movies from 2013 had better VFX than now. The people doing them were actually better artistically. The computers and tools may have improved but the actual hands guiding them are substantially worse or just not given enough time to excel. This is a phenomenon in a lot of industries, it's called 'institutional amnesia.' When a lot of people quit or leave a business or industry in a short space of time (it's hit hospitality over the last couple of years, the Australian public service inflicted it on itself) a lot of knowledge is lost, especially knowledge that is acquired, rather than learned. It would not surprise me that, even outside of the increasingly awful conditions, the new people simply haven't had time to learn their craft and there may be no one to teach them.
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Snowman_McK posted:This is a phenomenon in a lot of industries, it's called 'institutional amnesia.' When a lot of people quit or leave a business or industry in a short space of time (it's hit hospitality over the last couple of years, the Australian public service inflicted it on itself) a lot of knowledge is lost, especially knowledge that is acquired, rather than learned. It would not surprise me that, even outside of the increasingly awful conditions, the new people simply haven't had time to learn their craft and there may be no one to teach them. That's very interesting, thank you for posting! I had seen this first hand when I worked adjacent to the manufacturing industry and watched everything go overseas and all the plant managers get new jobs in different industries and now America has great difficulty making things, but I did not know there was an actual term for that. Should have suspected their was. Anyway, thanks again for the info!
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