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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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12 | 2.97% |
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67 | 16.58% |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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Frosted Flake posted:The Union broke whole confederate armies with frontal attacks too, as at Missionary Ridge, Vicksburg, Atlanta. I don't know if I'd draw the same conclusions. Missionary ridge was a fluke; the attack started without orders and had no artillery support. Fortunately the rebel defenses were situated badly and so they were protected until they were nearly at the top, even then they took heavy losses pressing the attack home. At Vicksburg, the first frontal assaults failed and later, Grant wrote in his memoirs that "I knew it wouldn't work, but the men were so fired up to attack I let them do it, just so they knew it had be sieged down". At Atlanta, Sherman kept the same winning strategy, pin with the center, try to flank the rebel army on their left, and it kept working. The one time they tried a frontal assault (Kennesaw Mountain) it was a bloody failure. My father was injured at Kennesaw mountain; it's a terrible place to attack, I don't know what Sherman was thinking. They tried frontal assaults on the lines at Atlanta, but once again, it was flanking on the left and cutting the railroad line that forced Hood to abandon Atlanta (that and his own penchant for disastrous frontal assaults).
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Jun 9, 2023 05:53
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Brain Candy posted:i don't disagree w.r.t the german 'obsession', i was referencing what FF mentioned. it seems to me the inherted nato doctrine was inherted exactly due to the similarity in position Arguably, the war in the east was far more about total mass of forces than truly maneuver, the Soviet Union was simply too vast and it had too much strategic depth. When cauldrons had formed, it was due to heavy attrition on flanks and simply a lack of men and material to force the issue. Admittedly, NATO doctrine seemed to be mostly ("eh who cares the nukes will be flying in week"), but if either side actually pulled the trigger, it would again have been about mass and firepower, not that different than the current conflict. quote:My father was injured at Kennesaw mountain; it's a terrible place to attack, I don't know what Sherman was thinking. Jesus! How old are you? Ardennes has issued a correction as of 06:01 on Jun 9, 2023 |
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Jun 9, 2023 05:58
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Ardennes posted:Jesus! How old are you? Me? I'm 44. This was back in '89, we hiked up to the top and he fell down a staircase in the parking lot. Wrenched his knee pretty badly, spent the rest of the vacation on crutches.
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Jun 9, 2023 06:05
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I'm actually reading a book right now on Second Bull Run and there's this bit where Franz Sigel is heavily engaged with Stonewall Jackson's corps near Gainesville and he keeps waiting for Philip Kearny to take Jackson's left flank but it never arrives as it turns out, some months before the battle, Sigel has a newspaper publish a letter from Kearny that disparages "the soldiery of the German-American", and it makes Kearny look like a bigot. He insists that the letter was simply misconstrued, and ends up harboring a grudge against Franz to the point where he completely disregards orders to attack to take advantage of Jackson trying to smash the Federals in a frontal attack he just dawdles for three to four hours that August morning until Longstreet arrives and the whole thing just goes to poo poo
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Jun 9, 2023 06:09
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https://twitter.com/MarkKersten/status/1666970638563811328 ur not fooling anyone africa we all know you very selfishly support putins war of genocide because he offers to sell you food while ukraine doesnt
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Jun 9, 2023 06:13
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welp, I'm sold now send the F-16s Joe
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Jun 9, 2023 06:16
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Here in Britain, we've been breaking up and selling off the national infrastructure for decades, combined with a policy of the government withdrawing funding for all sorts of poo poo because it costs money, and we can't afford that, apparently. Getting rid of the forge that produces tank and artillery barrels because keeping something like that constantly running is expensive and anyway, we're not at war right now this second, is absolutely typical of this attitude. There's definitely an inverse relationship between our national belligerence and our actual ability to project force: the more our military's declined, the harder we wave the flag lol.
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Jun 9, 2023 06:17
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lmao
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https://twitter.com/PeterCronau/status/1666966332389359617 big if true
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Jun 9, 2023 06:18
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I fully expect the British military to decline over time to the same state as the Irish. Which is to say more theoretical than anything else.
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Jun 9, 2023 06:20
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Truga posted:that's a pretty old new theory, the right wing nuts here in the balkans were telling us he's putin's puppet since 2018 yes lol. 2019: 
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Jun 9, 2023 06:20
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When they get shot down do they flame out counter-clockwise?
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Jun 9, 2023 06:21
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lol
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Jun 9, 2023 06:22
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The discussion was zelensky begging. Australia has the old f18s up for sale. For cash money. Beg. Beg. Beg. No cash no sale, z-boy.
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Jun 9, 2023 06:22
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https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1666968350948495360 looks like we finally solved the mystery of why robert kennedy junior loves putin so much
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Jun 9, 2023 06:27
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They can no longer produce ammo for the drat thing anyway.
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Jun 9, 2023 07:01
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The sun never sets on the British Empire but the electric lights sure do.
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Jun 9, 2023 07:18
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Frosted Flake posted:As see, what you're describing is unscientific. It's known as the bean count method, and is so simple it takes up a single paragraph. turns out we should be putting the bean counters in charge
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Jun 9, 2023 07:34
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bedpan posted:lol until they put me in the grave if I see a habsburg on the throne in hungary and/or austria-hungary reconstituting the current heir to the house of habsburg-lorraine is a race car driver and he's actually pretty good at it lol he just wants to go vroom vroom
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Jun 9, 2023 07:35
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DancingShade posted:I fully expect the British military to decline over time to the same state as the Irish. Which is to say more theoretical than anything else. The ceremonial regiments will be the last to go. Sword-wielding cavalrymen in polished, antique armour, parading through the streets while the crowds cheer and a BBC presenter explains to us in hushed, respectful tones that the British Army is the best in the world.
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Jun 9, 2023 07:36
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Pistol_Pete posted:The ceremonial regiments will be the last to go. Sword-wielding cavalrymen in polished, antique armour, parading through the streets while the crowds cheer and a BBC presenter explains to us in hushed, respectful tones that the British Army is the best in the world. it's pretty crazy that children of men predicating the slow suicide of great britain, the crazier thing is that they did it to themselves, they didn't even need people no longer having babies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrALRx95mHs
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Jun 9, 2023 07:46
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Frosted Flake posted:This is obviously not a workable historical model, which everybody seems to recognize, but serves its real purpose, which is providing a fig leaf for Lithuania to have a museum celebrating Holocaust Perpetrators and Ukraine to make Bandera a national hero. The spatial theory of murder undermines his whole thesis, because it tries to place blame for the murderousness of the space on the two big empires calling the shots, but that just as easily absolves Hitler and Stalin as actors being acted upon - with Stalin especially operating in the context of an immediate violent reaction against communism that tried snuffing out the Soviet Union in its crib. Everybody was killing everybody so really nobody is to blame, except Hitler & Stalin in equal measure. It's an infantile understanding of history and the critiques don't go far enough.
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Jun 9, 2023 07:54
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nice whatsboutism 
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Jun 9, 2023 07:57
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Pistol_Pete posted:Here in Britain, we've been breaking up and selling off the national infrastructure for decades, combined with a policy of the government withdrawing funding for all sorts of poo poo because it costs money, and we can't afford that, apparently. Getting rid of the forge that produces tank and artillery barrels because keeping something like that constantly running is expensive and anyway, we're not at war right now this second, is absolutely typical of this attitude. little yappy dog syndrome on a national level
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Jun 9, 2023 08:01
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if youre going to take the position that its not how or why people were being killed but just the physical location where the killing happened wouldnt it make more sense to say the people who lived there were assholes and not that the land itself was morally tainted by whoever had nominal authority of it at the time
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Jun 9, 2023 08:02
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Pistol_Pete posted:There's definitely an inverse relationship between our national belligerence and our actual ability to project force: the more our military's declined, the harder we wave the flag lol. Ah, Latvia Syndrome.
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Jun 9, 2023 08:14
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gradenko_2000 posted:"attack where the enemy is NOT dug in defensively" seems intuitive, but is contingent on a number of different factors: The Soviet solution to this problem at the strategic level was to use deception to mask your own deployments and bait the enemy into believing the blow will come somewhere else. That's not exactly a possibility anymore in an age of surveillance satellites and modern SigInt. Neither side being able to stage forces for an offensive without inviting a pre-emptive strike that breaks up concentrations of men and supplies goes a long way to explain why the war has become such a tedious meatgrinder. Bakhmut taking on the spirit it did makes sense if it's one of the only places along the wide front where a fight COULD happen.
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Jun 9, 2023 08:18
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Some Guy TT posted:if youre going to take the position that its not how or why people were being killed but just the physical location where the killing happened wouldnt it make more sense to say the people who lived there were assholes and not that the land itself was morally tainted by whoever had nominal authority of it at the time It's not enough to have their actions contextualized, eastern european collaborators in the Holocaust also have to be absolved or else there's no valid basis for their national mythos according to modern liberal mores. It may be an unfortunate circumstance of the time and politics they were developed in, but eastern European nationalisms are decisively reactionary and antisemitic from their inception. If you're trying to expand the EU as a multinational project of identity construction to create a new European super polity, then you need to come up with a way to neutralize the problematic implications of actually existing European nationalisms. The European Union needs to be a modernizing force sweeping away the old barbarities and old tyrannies through its imposition of liberal social values and political economy. So whatever character Baltic or Polish or whatever nationalism actually has can then be reduced to a mere affectation. The annual SS Forest Brothers Commemoration is practically a cultural kitsch, like Zwartpiet. And yeah, on top of it all the fact that these critiques are coming from actually genocidal and imperialistic Western Europeans & Americans who waged mass murder in the Middle East in the last couple decades, is just an extra bit of gently caress you to anybody who has to live with the legacies of imperialism, provincialism, and the Holocaust.
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Jun 9, 2023 08:27
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Some Guy TT posted:https://twitter.com/MarkKersten/status/1666970638563811328 It’s because they hate the white man and are allying with the mongrel demi-whites led by Vlad and bent on ruining the purity of the whites through race mixing The pure whites, of course, being the Polish, Ukrainian, Hungarian folk with their traditional lifestyle of cabbage growing, colorful dresses and Jew-murdering icantfindaname has issued a correction as of 08:46 on Jun 9, 2023 |
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Jun 9, 2023 08:44
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icantfindaname posted:It’s because they hate the white man and are allying with the mongrel demi-whites led by Vlad and bent on ruining the purity of the whites through race mixing I see the new pure whites have replaced the old pure whites from England, France and Germany. Well out with the old and in with the new eh? Old nobility = dying bloodlines. The divine right to rule demands the soil be watered with fresh blood. Edit - Schwab this is the bit you forgot about. Age. Well you're only human. DancingShade has issued a correction as of 08:56 on Jun 9, 2023 |
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Jun 9, 2023 08:53
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Slavs were the first white people of Europe.
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Jun 9, 2023 08:57
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Bad news for Russia - Ukraine has irrefutable evidence that Russian forces blew up the Kakhovka hydroelectric station and dam. https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...f08fa169adb7d4d Ukraine's security service claims to have intercepted call proving Russia blew up dam Ukraine’s domestic security service said on Friday it had intercepted a telephone call proving Russian forces blew up the Kakhovka hydroelectric station and dam in southern Ukraine’s Kherson region. The security service of Ukraine posted a one-and-a-half minute audio clip of the alleged conversation on its Telegram channel.
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Jun 9, 2023 09:14
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fizzy posted:Bad news for Russia - Ukraine has irrefutable evidence that Russian forces blew up the Kakhovka hydroelectric station and dam. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1uTsqJVAeo
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Jun 9, 2023 09:17
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fizzy posted:Bad news for Russia - Ukraine has irrefutable evidence that Russian forces blew up the Kakhovka hydroelectric station and dam. drat, them russians don't even fear the probe. who can stand against orcs of such courage?
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Jun 9, 2023 09:24
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fizzy posted:Ukraine's security service claims to have intercepted call proving Russia blew up dam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9Psqkq1nwU
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Jun 9, 2023 09:26
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that's the travis bickle classic
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Jun 9, 2023 09:28
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whew, just got done clandestinely blowing up a dam without ukraine being able to catch any footage of it with their numerous drones which are somehow able to capture hundreds of HD videos of russian soldiers being blown up by grenades just going to go ahead and phone putin now to let him know...
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Jun 9, 2023 09:32
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AnimeIsTrash posted:they got leopards in ukraine? They used to have tigers, panthers and elephants.
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Jun 9, 2023 09:35
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do we have a new wunderwaffen for nafo to masturbate to yet. are we back to himars yet, or are we still on the f16 cycle
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Jun 9, 2023 09:37
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https://tass.com/politics/1627901  Something overshadowed by the current events was the news that the Chechen Akhmat special operations force arrived in Marinka a few days ago and is spearheading the Russian offensive there. The Russian Army now holds 80% of the town. Up from 60% prior to the Chechens' arrival.
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Jun 9, 2023 09:38
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Frosted Flake posted:Kursk II going great. If this is Kursk II, I'm a little scared about how bigly people in the West are going to lose their minds if/when Russia launches Bagration II.
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Jun 9, 2023 09:42
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